When will this shit finally be settled?

Never. Here's what happens

Valve appeals -> gets dismissed or appealed as a new case -> once that goes through -> appeal again

Rinse and repeat. Corporations would rather keep paying fines and delay it endlessly, rather than follow through with it.

Stupid decision but not unexpected from Europe and their retarded tech laws. This will only speed up turning video games into Netflix.

Never because Steam has been ignoring this rule for years and governments are filled with senile geriatrics.

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Blessed. I will sell most of the piece of shit games I bought from sales years ago

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No, they will prolong it as long as they can and if Valve loses conclusively they will just pay fines for all eternity as long as French still buy enough games to make up for it.

unfortunately, shit like that always take time.
but based frogs, I sure do remember about that one.
same as belgians rulung lootboxes gambling.
as despicable european union is, i really hope they'll show kikes their place.

How retarded are both of you? All they did was tell you how stupid you are for thinking all digital media companies would stop operating in France since it would apply to them ALL.

No one would be pulling out of France if it passed mongoloids.

If anything they'd probably take 30 - 50% of what you sold it for and make even more money from it.

>Sooner than later they'll bow to the EU overlords
That's the only good thing about the EU. Even if France loses the appeal, the entire EU can step in and just fine the shit out of Valve, while also suing them.

Lets say you buy games on steam and die
Is that ownership of games removed and all the value associated with it or can you transfer the games to your family?
The idea that software licences couldn't be transferred to others is problematic. Ofc the company Can move the license to another account if they wanted to, it's a question of will rather than means.

this ruling is pretty unfair to the game industry 2bh

>and that's a good thing

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that implies the french court is right in their interpretation of the law

I don't think you anons understand. This ruling is going to lead us to a permanent GaaS business model where publishers and store owners don't sell us actual software, but mere subscription licenses that can be revoked at will and...what's that?
Hang on. I'm getting word that Valve's argument in French court was that they do not sell actual software and are literally a subscription-based service. Well then, Valve can get fucked forever.

>pro-consumer rights are bad
¡Dios mío!

hope you like gamepass because that's the future in euroland

you mean I pay 120€ a year instead of 400€+ for all the new games?
seems like a great deal to me

I want for profit video games banned in the future so only crazed hobbyists who would do it for free will ever be able to make games.

Yes, communism is bad

no, 120€ a year for each subscription service with the games you want

haha epic The Simpsons reference my friend! I'm glad I get to rewatch all my favorite episodes on Disney+ with Hulu and ESPN now. SNEED xD

>Add a used games marketplace to Steam
>Take a cut from each trade so you'll still profit
>Everyone else will also need to implement used game trading, so there's no risk of publishers abandoning Steam over this
I don't really see what the issue is for Valve. The only bad thing that can come out of this is that it'll make the industry more interested push harder for subscriptions instead of traditional lifetime licenses, but those seem to be inevitable anyway for AAA games.

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It will not apply to bongs.

>you shouldn't be allowed to sign contracts that aren't heavily in one side's favor for some fucking reason
k

WHO RUNS THE WORLD?!

>the government tells us what rights we have
Retard.

Gives the EU precedent to pull more of this shit, shit that potentially could even affect us Americans

But what exactly is bad about this ruling?
The whole concept of copyright is about likening digital goods to physical, and the industry sure loves that concept when it's convenient to them, what with all the piracy = stealing comparisons. It only makes sense that the consumers should also have the same rights as they do with physical goods then.

>shit that potentially could even affect us Americans
Like how you can refund games in Steam now? Guess you hate that, right?

That's literally how governments work, user.

This is likely going to be a bad thing overall.

The prices of games is going to crash, like less than $30 for a new game 2 weeks after release. This is a great thing for consumers, but it'll eat so heavily into the profits of publishers that they'll either: go super aggressive with loot boxes or pass bullshit, or each publisher will do a game subscription service like Microsoft, which means you don't really own your games at all.

I hope this shit gets stomped out. Frogs are just as souless as chinks and dont deserve good tbhings

>it'll make the industry more interested push harder for subscriptions instead of traditional lifetime licenses
They keep pushing shit like DLCs, passes and shit anyways.

When purchasing a digital game you are agreeing to a different set of rules than to a physical game. Copyright only needs to exist to prevent piracy, which is much easier to do with digital than physical. Granting you extra rights would be fundamentally anti capitalist and, even worse, emboldening to the EU.

>Company does shit in EU that EU doesn't like
>Regulated
>American govt and/or company sees this and tries it themselves

Are you outside of the US? The bill of rights does not afford rights to people, it is stating the rights you already have so the government cannot infringe upon them.

*authoritarian governments

>Granting you extra rights would be fundamentally anti capitalist
wtf I hate capitalism now

YES PLEASE, I have so many trash games in digital that I want to sell to buy something better

>wtf I hate freedom now

user, the American government approved that bill of rights, they literally told you Americans which right you have.

Granting one individual more rights than what are self-evident will undoubtedly violate the rights of another.

Cool, maybe this'll be the push to finally make the industry crash.

Exactly, so why not accelerate that process and see what happens?

why dont they just make you box the game up and put it in your inventory

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>having less rights means more freedom
Based Americans turning 1984 into reality.

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If you don't know what you're talking about you probably shouldn't talk at all.

>Having less rights = more freedom
Sometimes I don't get you Americans.

the government invalidating contracts parties voluntarily agree to is not a good thing

Good advice, user, you should try to follow it.

>he doesn't know his own history
¡Dios mío!

>I want to resell my games!
Say goodbye to any good sales then nigger. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Like slavery contracts? America confirmed for commies.

It won't crash because the video game market is just too big. We're reaching the point where even games like Fallout 76 can be successful, just due to the sheer size of the market. Think about how fucking stupid the average person is, and how many people there are like them, or even stupider.

>buy steam keys for cheap during humble bundle etc
>sell them back to the community at less than full price

steam will never allow this. Far too easy to abuse.

If you pay taxes you are a slave

the american government has already infringed upon the bill of rights so many times it's effectively worthless

So when an officer of the law has more rights than you what does that mean?

It fundamentally does not make sense to be able to "resell" your digital games, because digital products do not degrade or are afflicted by any of the lifespan problems of physical products. There is no discernible difference between a "new" digital download and one that's twenty-years-old.

Whatever you say carlos

Positive rights are like an invisible resource that must be distributed evenly (as in each person gets a '0' value). This resource follows the law of conservation of mass, meaning that whenever someone is granted a positive right, someone else loses.