The game literally aims for you

Doom threads have taken a massive nosedive to the shitter since Eternal was released. How long till this shit dies down?

rent free

No one said anything like that you fucking schizo

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its still a challenge, did you play on ultra violence?

This.

>dude, game is hard if you die to a single hit and if it spawns 0 health, also restarts your entire game.

that's half the work automated

nigga just move out the way

it doesn't but it looks like it does because the height in Doom is just a visual and doesn't translate into gameplay beyond creating movement barriers.

When you go in to map view that is basically what the game engine sees. Height doesn't matter. And when you fire a projectile at an enemy it draws a line between you and the enemy to account for the height difference visually and moving projectiles, like plasma or rockets, follow that path.

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>nigga just dont get hit
Any game is hard by this logic since there is not one game youve absolutely never been hit in.

way more actually. 2d from 3d is way too different.

>that kid who enables vertical mouselook

>there is not one game youve absolutely never been hit in.
Yes there is if you're good enough.

literally nothing wrong with vertical mouselook

Ultra Violence isn't even that hard.
Your hyperbole is just annoying at this point

why wouldn't you play modern WADs with it?

Fuck off fag, show me your game you played from start to finish that youve never been hit in, post full walkthrough for proof.

I'm not posting shit for you
Just look up no hit runs on Doom fag

Because you got nothing.
Lol what a lying pussy.

You said there is no game where a person avoid every hit and not get hit once
There are
and I just pointed you to people not getting hit once throughout an entire runthrough of a game
Stop being fucking moron already

>get a modern source port
>enable hw accel
>always mouselook on
>set autoaim to 0
enjoy ;)

you fuckin idiot ultra violence isn't the gamemode that restarts your game if you die

They already played those games for hundreds of hours retard and been hit there, a single no hit run doesnt mean they havent been hit in previous runs.
God youre retarded, i want YOU to post your run since you think its so easy and a a good argument. ( it isnt)

Everything was running at 320x200, most players didn't use a mouse, and you didn't have a crosshair.

YOU FUCKIGN SAID THERE IS NO GAME WHERE CAN"T GET HIT
THERE ARE IF YOU PRACTICE YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID
MOVE OUT THE FUCKING WAY AND YOU WON'T GET HIT IT'S NOT THAT FUCKING HARD
>NOoooo I said YOU not getting hit
And I tolD YOU TO STOP BEING FUCKING MORON

Why does Yas Forums hate brutal doom again?

Also 30-50 FPS if you're lucky. If you're not lucky, 15-20 FPS and the game was even more pixelated.

Cheating with a mouse isn't fun

>THERE ARE IF YOU PRACTICE
So they actually did get hit before?
So you lied and your argument is actually completely retarded?
Ok then

got too popular. people don't shut up about it.

Until sales figures are released and Yas Forums finally accepts it isn't a new TORtanic and moves on.

YOU'RE A FUCKING MORON
you were complaining about ultra violence being too hard since it kills you in one hit (it doesn't) starts you with no health ( it doesn't) and restarts your game (it doesn't)

t. actual retarded piece of shit low iq vermin piece of garbage who doesn't understand how games he posts about work
kill yourself or suicide by cop since you're probably too stupid to understand how

It's not how the creators intended it to be played.

Please never for the love of all humanity live another day on this planet

How can you say that? How do you know what the creator of the WAD intended?
I always leave crouching and jumping enabled, just in case the WAD I'm playing requires it.
Plus getting blasted by Imps from a balcony you can't look up to see is never fun.

You look at it in the context of when it was released. It's a great game in that sense. The people saying that it is better than the newer DOOM games are definitely blinded by nostalgia. Sure, the new DOOM games don't have as much of an impact on the genre that the original had, but they are, in almost every single metric, better games.

Holy fuck, youre mad.
Toplel.

I meant the games themselves.
Community wads are cringe and don't count.

Yeah I'm mad but atleast I'm not you

>the game was designed to use KEYBOARD AIMING
Maybe if you were broke and with a shit computer at the time
>being able to play doom and use mouse drivers at the same time was considered ‘high end’
The moment I saw them do effortless 180s through the official demos was when I realized the ideal way to play.

UV pistol start is a whole new experience and every map supports it, it’s crazy.

When I’m comparing classic to new Doom stuff, I’m more comparing it to what can and has been done through modding and the community. It’s part of the reason why I think the newer Dooms have some huge fucking boots to fill.
Doom 16 was fun but still shy of what I wanted from a Doom sequel. Eternal looks cool but I still want to wait until it goes down, no modding support and the story seems gross.

In order to understand why DOOM is the way it is, you have to understand where it comes from. Before DOOM, id Software made The Catacomb, which was a top-down shooter in the vein of Gauntlet. Then they made Catacomb 3D, which was literally almost the exact same game but in first person. Then they replaced the magic fireballs with multiple selectable firearms and made Wolf3D. Then they added variable floor heights and non-orthogonal walls and made Doom. At this point the FPS as we know it didn't exist. In an FPS the main element is careful aiming, whereas Doom is about dodging projectiles and making smart use of the level, as well as going through the typical id games level structure (explore the level, find colored keys, get to the exit)
Doom is an evolution of arcade top-down shooters (the beta even had score items and a lives system), not "Quake/Halo/HL but older and more limited". If you look at it from this perspective it makes sense why you don't aim vertically, why you don't jump, and also why it took them until doom to figure out it would be useful to have direct keys for strafing left and right (in Catacomb3D and wolf 3D you have to hold down a separate strafe key in order to strafe, because this is how you strafe in the original Catacomb since it was a top-down game). It's all just stuff that wasn't in the equation yet because the genre didn't exist.

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Doom literally has autoaim

How do stairs work then

I played doom 1, 2 , TNT and Putonia like two years ago.

I played all but 1 on Ultra Violence. But I played 1 on Hurt Me Plenty. Also I kinda wanna try crispy doom since I used chocolate doom last time. Should I play through 1 again on UV

The weird distorted stretching is kind of gross, unless someone fixed that

Actually that can't be fixed now that I think of it. like looking down at imp sprites from a high vantage point with full mouselook. ITS FUCKED BRO

play brutal doom

Check some of the major user levels like Valiant, Alien Vendetta and Eviternity.

Makes the game move at a faster pace, wish another game would try it. Fuck lock on, have it soft lock when you aim specifically at them and focus on letting the player tear ass around the map dodging projectiles.

To add to this, here's a fun thing I realized recently. Did you know Quake was also has vertical autoaim by default? Since it also has no mouselook by default, you can totally play it like Doom instead of being weirded out and immediately turning on mouselook and crosshair and turning off autoaim via commandline and playing it like a normal shooter. I've been going through it that way and I'm finding it a lot more fun (now it feels like an enhanced doom rather than just an old FPS). Since the game has more verticality in the levels, I've still found it useful to have the mouselook key handy (I bind it to the right mouse button) but only to take a look in some situations.