How would you fix this flawed master piece?
Here's some mine
After you get the Vorpal Sword it should just replace your fucking Chainsaw and just be a quicker animation.
Remove the gay-ass,useless ass flame cannon
Remove Suit perks completely
Get me to the fun guns and abilities sooner
Make a good fucking ending and a good last boss ffs
Non cringe story overall
cry more faggot. best single player fps in the last 10 years.
niga I liked it, but it's got some big issues that make me not want to replay it
>Remove the gay-ass,useless ass flame cannon
Someone's playing on a low difficulty.
More ammo so you won't have to rely on a chainsaw that much
Nope, played on the one before nightmare, I just think it just clutters up the arsenal, I just wanna shoot my fucking guns
No stupid ass platforming
This is DOOM, not Mario
I think the ammo being a limited resource is fine if you just make the chainsaw faster and useable on most stuff. So replacing the chainsaw with the Vorpal sword later on sounds like it fixes it
Cut back on the chainsaw/glory kill loop. Game plays fine when youre not doing this shit 20x every 5 minutes
>After you get the Vorpal Sword it should just replace your fucking Chainsaw and just be a quicker animation.
>Remove the gay-ass,useless ass flame cannon
>Remove Suit perks completely
>Get me to the fun guns and abilities sooner
>Make a good fucking ending and a good last boss ffs
100% agree with all of these
Also make more level showing the struggle of humanity against demons and the corruption on earth, too many of the levels are about other dimensions and shit
Remove the rad suit as well
And give the plasma gun and the ballista separate ammo pools
>less retarded platforming sections
>less arenas
>more corridors with demons to pewpew
More ammo
No grenades
No flame belch
No chainsaw, rather replace it with the one from 2016
More melee damage
No platforming
No purple slime
No tentacles
No neon coloured pickups
Remove the WUB WUB WUB from the soundtrack and replace it with real metal instead
Rewrite the story (it was clearly rushed)
No hub world
No "weak spots" on enemies, blood punch shouldn't be necessary for cyber mancubi
Fix the art style and graphics (they're a direct downgrade from 2016) except spinning pickups are kino
Replace the ballista with the gauss but nerf it
Add the SSG double tap back
Overall 6/10. Beat it on UV then nightmare, not worth my time. Surprisingly 2016 was much better.
YES, some of this shit was so fucking goofy man.
Fire chains suspended in mid-air by nothing? Goofy as shit in a Doom game and also not enjoyable or challenging.
>After you get the Vorpal Sword it should just replace your fucking Chainsaw and just be a quicker animation.
Nah it should have more unique animations and it should have each map (for replayability) contain a power cell for it, also it should have five charges instead of three
>Remove the gay-ass,useless ass flame cannon
>Remove Suit perks completely
Nope to both of those. Those are both great.
>Get me to the fun guns and abilities sooner
Agreed. Or make the game longer
>Make a good fucking ending and a good last boss ffs
No, the final boss was great, and the ending was fine. It felt like the Doom 2 final boss fight that was originally intended but couldn't be achieved due to technical limitations
>Non cringe story overall
I wouldn't call it cringe, but I do think they really did force in way too much Sentinel lore than necessary, the Maykr stuff was alright, especially with the possibility that Samuel Hayden created the Maykrs. I liked the Demon lore though, especially the Hell Royalty and the Hell Priests.
Here's what I suggest:
I would also add more stuff to do in the Fortress of Doom and make the arena way more interesting instead of just a practice zone.
Also there should be more Hell on Earth levels and more humans vs demons stuff
Remove the fucking tentacles
More chanting in the OST, it felt way too restrained at times.
Fix the melee punch, the silver bullet cheat actually gets it right for the most part (at least for weaker enemies)
Also some of the platforming was fun, but a lot of them (like the one on the second level and the Super Gore Nest ones) were just fucking dumb.
Add way more cooler cheats, go nuts with them.
Give Cyberdemon and Archvile an introduction like in the trailer, instead of turning them into a random enemy in the arena.
More Archviles and Cyberdemons
More Maurader encounters
Add Devilmen
> just eliminate the a ability to restore ammo, guys, it's interfering with muh guns
Jesus you are one repulsive cocksucker.
I fuckin' meant armor, mothafucka, fuck you.
This
Yeah all the fucking sentinel lore and world was kind wack more Earth wuda been cool. I did like the last level on Earth though, it had a cool Duke Nukem Vibe and I was having the most fun there.
Hey fags how do i farm XP, I want the slick black slayer skin but im like level 3 despite clearing the game on nightmare
dont tell me i have to grind shitty battle mode
Yeah, the flame thrower is pretty weak as a weapon, I feel like I could use some crowd control instead. Getting stuck in a crowd is the worst that can happen in the game. Applying the blood punch buff to dash could help.
The game also needs better gibbing. Combat lacks weight because there is not enough blood and bodies disappear instantly.
> played on the one before nightmare
OH NO NO NO
Artillery turret sections should have been boss fights instead of fucking cutscenes
So fucking disappointing.
>nightmare fags thiking they're high and mighty
Wheres the UN playthrough at user?
Literally not an argument.
Just drop to Hurt Me Plenty and work on knocking out the weekly challenges. Make sure you've got boosters set up too. I mostly just want the level 5 avatar.
During those sections all I would think was "I just want to kill more demons".
It killed the pacing and was tedious.
It was fine in 2016, but even then was criticized. I really don't understand why they put more of it in Eternal especially with all the Mario shit. Who the fuck was asking for that?
The level where you need to get down to Mars should have been the big platforming set piece, but it looses all grandeur because of all the platforming you need to do up to that point.
>played on easy mode
>thinks his opinion matters
>skilless virgin cant complete UN
Sad, maybe consider your own skill before throwing shade on others
already done in 4
only a matter of time in eternal
Of course you'd make an adjustment to compensate for no armor, ya cocksucker
Bruuh the final boss could have been so much better and challenging. You just wait for his attacks to end and then you shoot at him and then you look for enemies to farm for ammo and then you just hide. It could have been that you needed to weaken his armor and then punch him to break it, maybe you need to kill Caco demons to reset your dash so you can reach him so you can punch him, dat'd cool, anything but hide and shoot
The flame thrower isnt supposed to be for killing. Its supposed to be for hoardes of demons you then dispose of in another way for tons of shields. Its just a reliable shield source unlike in 2016.
>best fps
>arena shooter
I'd say it's the best FPS ever made
Doesn't mean it's 100% perfect
>increase the ammo cap a tad bit
>chainsaw should have been able to cut more demons
>quite a lot of surprisingly bad weapon mods that aren't worth using
>lack of resource clarity in such an hectic game, I just don't hear the sound notification for nades and blood punches at all, there should have been visual notifications on doomguy's arms, or something. No time to look at the hud
>doomguy is a bit slower than ideal
>lamest flame thrower I ever seen
Let me enjoy shooting shit with more ammo instead of running out after 12 shots. I hate how the chainsaw is the reload button
>No grenades
>No flame belch
>No chainsaw, rather replace it with the one from 2016
>More melee damage
>No platforming
>Remove the WUB WUB WUB from the soundtrack and replace it with real metal instead
You sucks donkey dicks.
Fixed it.
Use other weapons you autistic faggot.
>wanting a turret sequence in DOOM
>wanting to sit still and pew pew at big enemies with no mobility or creativity
absolutely disgusting
the flamethrower isn't supposed to be a weapon, it's only there to generate armor drops, actually I fucking hate the way this works
2016 had some perk that made glory kills drop armor too, instead of only health and I feel like if they kept that, and just removed that stupid ass flame thrower alltogether and just gave you bigger ammo bags this game would be way less annoying
also what's up with the random fireballs and 1 ups and midair spinning flaming chains everywhere, at some points I feel like I'm playing a fucking Super Mario game
infinite ammo is the only one I could use out of those and that cheat is already unlockable ingame
>use other guns
>out of ammo after 10 seconds of using them
>need to "reload" with the chainsaw
Doom 2016 did the ammo thing absolutely fine.
Yes.
make it like in samozbor
I wouldn't change a thing. This seething has been great.
Does anyone actually use this shit? I mean, if you're too lame to play the game on a certain difficulty just lower it, who the fuck cares anyway.
>No Purple slime
>Make chainsaw like in doom 2016
>Make some glorykills more brutal
>make it so difficluty just adds more mobs like in orginal doom
Nothing besides that
>farming lives on exultia
Is it cheating?
You realize you could complete the entirety of 2016 with only the SSG and Ballista and their practically bottomless ammo supply?
punch does damage to zombie demons
Difficulty changes enemy attack patterns and AI which is arguably better design
DooM 2016
but with more demons
more guns and/or useful alt fire modes
fuck rpg bullshit
fuck super mario sunshine wallcrawl and pole swing bullshit
no cutscenes
only 1 person view
same style music from 2016
faster
harder, way harder
no hub shit (no rest for the wicked)
fuck stupid lore and plot
fuck dialogs with main protagonist
no confetti shit with glory kills - insta pickup just blink screen green, yellow, blue for feedback
no cooldown
no cringe memes and references
no collectables
bigger maps and without a "lockdown" arenas - you can run around fight anywere.
no Bethesda
no Zenimax
I literally think they have women or total imbeciles on ID's team who said:
>hey them guys like doom, you know classic doom from the late 90s
>you know what else was popular during the late 90s
>fucking mario man, lets fucking do this shit its gonna be dope
>increase ammo cap a little bit
>rework marauder into making him more like doomguy - jetting around, more mobile, more FUN to fight, none of that boring ass peekaboo sekiro wannabe bullshit
>replace useless water sections with normal platforming used to break up the pacing and get some breathing room
>bosses should be more like 2016s - Huge bullet sponges with a variety of fun attacks and pattern, Gladiator was awful
these are just nitpicks at this point, but I can't help but feel that my aforementioned points could've been done a bit better
Okay and?
include Yas Forums difficulty mode, which sets lower than journalist mode
>Remove the WUB WUB WUB from the soundtrack and replace it with real metal instead
Mick Gordon summoned a bunch of metal vocalists for the soundtrack
Keep meta/easter eggs shit as secrets. Doomguy wouldn't have a pad with soiboi collectibles, a gaming machine and shit. He's full of rage. He should be freezing himself or have a VR machine where he hangs out on the country side with his long dead bunny between killing demons.
yeah and it was better than Eternal with its ammo running out on all weapons all the time
they overcorrected waaaaay too hard
and this is why im glad devs dont listen to armchair reddit/Yas Forums developers.
plus i think it's a bit much to throw around such dramatic changes as 'change the story'. it's lazy to critique a game by what you wished was their, judge it on it's own merit.
'i wish this...' 'i wish that...'. you're not judging Doom Eternal, you're judging some imaginary product in your head.
as for perishable things they could actually change -- faster default movement speed (can big fixed in console/mods most likely, so not real problem), make the prowler a bit more distinctive (too much like Imp IMO), make purple goo less obnoxious (can be fixed indirectly with faster default movement), uuh... not much, really.
as for DLC content, I'd like to see Ripatorium expanded upon. if the MP slowly dies, I can see them easily using the MP maps as options for the ripatorium.
>No "weak spots" on enemies, blood punch shouldn't be necessary for cyber mancubi
It's not lmao. I bet you glorykilled every cacodemon too
Fix the gunplay and ammo count so it doesn't feel like I'm doing an MMO rotation in first person.
Remove parkour padding sections that add nothing.
Gladiator was good though. Much better than the 2016 fights. Better music too.
Sorry it wasn't "cool" enough user. I'll make sure in the next game doomguy wears sunglasses and a trenchcoat just for you. Maybe he'll swear at his mom and ride a BMX bike too
I think Ammo needs to be an important resource that you need to manage, but the animation is kind long and ALSO the blinking demons imps look like regular imps but you cant chainsaw then so you get the failed animation and sometimess its a clutter and you cant reach the enemy you want to chainsaw. My solution: Add a chain on the chainsaw just like the one on the shotgun that pulls you to enemies. Just thought of this, maybe not the best solution but an interesting idea. I just do think managing ammo is an important part of what makes the game fun
Honestly Eternal is fucking awesome. Obviously it is flawed but I feel like this game is so much more ambitious than Doom 2016 ever was, and while some of its faults may be more glaring, d44m was just too safe to ever soar as high as Eternal does.
The ammo thing can be an issue for sure, and while I love the rhythm I've gotten into with the game, it wouldn't have hurt it at all to give the player at least some more ammo, not doom 2016 levels but some more. But I love the mechanics, I'm having so much more fun with this game than I ever did with D44M, I'm so much more engaged playing it.
D44M had a better story presentation and I liked the flow of that game quite a lot. I don't like how this does story, it has cutscenes and it has some moments of story that happen through gameplay like D44M did but you're left in the fucking blind if you don't read books worth of codex to understand what is even slightly going on. D44M you could ignore all that and just get a story out of playing the game, it was minimal and done right.
Eternal > D44M
Super Gore Nest > All other levels
eh I dunno I found it pretty boring compared to the cyberdemon. Still fun, but the obnoxious tracking on some of its attacks bothered me
Good thing for you, Doom 1 and 2 already exist.
The people complaining about ammo probably never got past level 3. As soon as you get all the ammo upgrades and guns, it doesnt become an issue anymore.
I get that ammo managing ammo is part of it but you get 16 shells in the shotgun. Enemies take more than 1 hit some times so you've killed about 5 with them 16 bullets compared to 2016 doom where you had just a bit more ammo.
The guns just need a bit more ammo that's all.
raise the movement speed and add air control
make the blood punch your standard melee attack, but add a 2 second cooldown
remove the purple shit because it sucks
open up the levels more and encourage the player to find shortcuts through the level instead of sectioning new areas and secrets off with a puzzle
make the ice grenade an alt of the flame belch
bring back the gauss cannon
expand the ripatorium
Doom, but with dodge jumps and Max Payne bullet time.
Play more games.
>better than Eternal with its ammo running out on all weapons all the time
Just use the chainsaw, lmao. It should be a legal requirement to have a semi-lukewarm IQ post, goddamn.
>fuck stupid lore and plot
>fuck dialogs with main protagonist
>No hub shit
So its ok when darksouls/bloodborn dose it?
I think that the lore is fine and makes sens
>no collectables
Are you retarded orginal doom would have collectibles if tech allowed it then
>fuck rpg bullshit
Lower replay value then
>fuck super mario sunshine wallcrawl and pole swing bullshit
It makes sens in broken down City the path wouldt be nice straight road
>blood punch on a 2 second cooldown
That would be broken as fuck. No.
The proper solution is to have the ammo count increased for difficulties below nightmare. That way the players that want their demon blasting power fantasy can have it and the players that want to challenge themselves and strategize can have theirs.
I rushed Ammo upgrades cuz I was avvin a problem with this too and it felt fine after that
>He doesn't have Slowmo rune
using the chainsaw every 5 seconds is annoying
the devs should just give you more ammo to work with
>playing single-player hero shooters
that's not even necessary, just use the infinite ammo cheat
Powerful melee attack on low CD? Why use guns lmeo?
Okay. You name the best fps of the past 10 years then. A game with a singleplayer campaign comparable to Doom.
You dont have to use it every 5 seconds. You should only have to use it once every fight if you're actually good.
>Using the chainsaw every 5 seconds is annoying
Change guns, like you're supposed to.
>the devs should just give you more ammo to work with
They do, it's called suit upgrades, try it out.
You don't have to use the chainsaw every 5 seconds unless you're too much of a shitter to use your whole arsenal
Or ammo bag
Doom 2016.
my nigga I use the chainsaw like once or twice per arena, stop missing shots
Just dropping in to say that the Marauder's hecking pupperino is the most annoying enemy in the game
I thought Yas Forums was good at games?
Super Shotgun fags got mega filtered by this game.
Remove pain elementals or make them less tanky holy shit, they were never a fun addition in DOOM 2 and they aren't now
Keep doom hunters as a one time boss
Give the marauder more moves and openings so he's actually fun to fight and not a repetitive chore
Make the normal melee attack do atleast a bit of damage, not 0
That's all it needs to be perfect
>filtered by fucking pain elementals of all things
literal ass sucking fanboy faggot
>So its ok when darksouls/bloodborn dose it?
I think that the lore is fine and makes sens
How is this fucking compareable? First off 2 completely different genres and a miillion other factors. Also when did he say those games are good?
>Lower replay value then
How?
>It makes sens in broken down City the path wouldt be nice straight road
you retarded monkey shit cherrypickng fuckwad, what about the hell level with the chains suspended in mid air? Eat shit
>Drying to dodge away
>Pupper has circled around behind me and is body blocking me
>Marauder Shields zips up and goons me with the SSG
Had this happen a few times. The Plasma heatwave does a good job of merc'ing him and his meddling dog too.
why doom hunters? They're not that bad, just focus their metal slate and gib the rest of the body into oblivion with a couple rocket bursts
Gameplay loop is pretty tiresome, the waves get old especially by the end of it. Further, ammo and glory kills as a required mechanic and the changes from the punch being a light tap to help get glory kills kind of messed it up.
I would also remove the arcade feel with the colors, but keep the quickness of movement. Finally, I would definitely give the player an infinite ammo pistol so he could at least have a chance when he runs out of ammo...
Yikes, literal basedboy requests. I only agree that the Marauder could be tweaked a bit to be a more consistent and fun enemy
>express your negative opinion of an enemy
>FILTERED XD
Never change.
In all seriousness tho, the only demons in Eternal that take more shots to kill than Pain Elementals are the baron and cyberdemon, and I can't justify that