A masterpiece

But they decided to make it a dark souls game, they should've named it something else.

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Why? It's a great Dark Souls game.

Hallway Souls 3 on the other hand...

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i don't agree that it's a masterpiece, but I will say that it would have been better if it wasn't a sequel to dark souls and expanded more upon it's own lore rather than having to tie in the first game.

Couldn't agree more. If it was a separate game like bloodbourne it would get the praise it deserves.

Where did it have ties to the first game?

Damn elden ring looks great.

the rotten, the old iron king, the lost sinner- even giant spider monster boss that was horrible all had remnants of the great lord's souls from the first game. the game really has this horrible clash between wanting to do its own thing with the undead curse and then repeating and making parallels with the first game.

also almost all the armor that was ported over from the first game looked like absolute shit- and the last thing das2 needed was havel's armor. it had some great aesthetics, armor, weapon designs that were unique. there were so many set backs I really wish the game could have been better, scholar definitely didn't make the game much better, especially by arbitrarily fucking with mob spawns and adding an exposition dump character when there was hardly any need for one.

I can’t believe people have reached such levels of contrarianism that they’re pretending DS2 is good

The ds3 map doesn't include the dlc while the one and two maps do..

>has the best pvp by a long shot
>has the most replay value
>NG+ actually changes stuff
>has the best DLC
>but if you like it you're a contrarian!
God, I hate Yas Forums. I bet most of you haven't even played the game and just shit on it because it's the hivemind thing to do.

Wow, it's got all those features and it still can't managed to be enjoyable.

It's really flawed in some places, most notably the starting sections of the game.
I think most people have problems with it because they got complacent from playing through Dark Souls and forgot how carefully they had to play at first before they had a SL 100 character. And when souls mattered.

You go into Dark Souls 2 and respect the game and it actually becomes easier because you die less and spend souls more wisely on things you need.

Yeah, but it's also kinda meh single player in a lot of places. Feels more like an arcade game than an RPG sometimes.

Dark SOULs 2

It's flawed in alot of ways but somehow this is the one I enjoyed the most

why the FUCK did they remove powerstancing in 3?

weapon arts

Weapon arts are such dogshit compared to powerstancing, I don't want to have to have a single blue estus if I want to do sick moves sometimes

>>has the most replay value
Replay value is measured by how fun something is, is it still fun to play? Replay it, a game bloated with dogshit content does not make it more replayable
>>has the best DLC
>worse than toh, aoa and trc
Nice try das2nigger

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And by aoa I meant fucking artorias of the abyss, not ashes of shitandell

Dark Souls 1 is definitely the best game in the series, even if the remaster was shit, and not worth the 60 bucks, I bought it anyways because I'm a sucker for that janky ass PVP that somehow always keeps me coming back.

I disagree, I think it works quite well as a dark souls game, and it's my favourite of the three. Has a really good story that builds upon the first game, while also being good on it's own

DS2 is probably better than 95% of games, but I miss Miyazaki's design aesthetic. It's just not as weird and crazy. I can forgive it all it's other flaws, but there's a lot of generic fantasy elements and not many unique enemies like Gaping Dragon, Ceaseless Discharge, Choas Witch Kellogg's, etc.

I was so disappointed when I reached the Old Iron King and he's... A Balrog.

>not exclusively using blue estus

This is nothing new from From, they constantly tie in themes characters and equipment to their newer games. Moonlight great sword and patches for example

>actually believed the meme that powerstancing > weapon arts/dual weapons
>started a playthrough and dumped souls into stats just to powerstance greatswords
>it's shit, literally just one new attack that does a bit more damage and consumes a billion stamina
Why lie?

What is that rapier webm meant to prove

>TRC
>good
>also posting a video showcasing DS2 rapier moveset being the best
You're an embarrassing faggot nigger

That he's a retard

DS2 movements look the best in that webm

A masterpiece. Genuinely

this video shows that in dark souls 2 you can only turn a certain amount between consecutive actions

It wouldn't change much since dlc 2 is locked behind Friede or all 4 lords.

It's been six years. Can't we move past the contrarianism? DaS2 is objectively the worst in the series, that doesn't necessarily make it bad, but it is heavily flawed, particularly from a gameplay perspective. You're not unique for saying it's the best, you're just another retard.

Yeah ds2 moveset looks the best here

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>asking anons of Yas Forums to stop being contrarians
You might as well be pissing into the wind

>contrarian
Nearly all journos and critics have DS2 being the best Souls game user, it's right there second to Bloodborne.

It's been 6 years and you're still seething

>adding DLC to give the impression of more paths
>pretending the level design of 2 past the primal bonfires isn't LITERALLY a straight fucking line

DS3 may not be an interconnected world like 1, but the levels were way more intricate than the dogshit treatment 2 got. It's like halfway through the game they just said fuck it, good enough!

>journos and critics
>not retards

i had more fun playing it than the other dark souls

throw some ad homs at me and then cry while i dab on this smelter knight

COPE

What's your excuse now

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Bonfire ascetic is such an interesting concept. Why does 3 feel so dumbed down?

Chinaman Souls 2

Is magic worth it in sotfs? It seems to be pretty bad compared to physical builds.

what's the best build for pve?

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It's not necessary, though some of the spells and miracles can be fun

it's shit for the "DLC" areas but you can circumvent that by using Enchanted weapons (infusion that converts INT bonuses into physical damage)

These diagrams give no weight to the size and complexity of individual areas. It's funny that the entire Ringed City DLC and the Shaded Woods/Ruins are depicted as being equivalent.

It would be probably be more fair to count bonfires rather than named areas.

because that's what the fans wanted - to go back to Dark Souls 1

Then stop using buzzwords you yourself don't understand. Liking DS2 over others is not """contrarianism""", that's not even a word you fucking mongoloid

>hex build fun as fuck in 2
>give it a try in 3
>it’s absolute dog shit

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Only played 1 and 2, is that DS3 map real or is just a meme?

It’s real. Dark Souls 3 is unironically a hallway simulator. It’s fucking garbage.

>shilling Enchanted """weapons"""
I had a higher AR with an uninfused Longsword +10 and the Sorcerer's base STR and DEX, and I was still doing more damage than a +10 Enchanted Longsword at 60 INT.
You'd better just be trying to fuck with that user.

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That's most builds coming from DS2. I honestly don't know how DS3 is supposed to be the better game when there's less customization, less build variety, and less ways to play overall.

an Enchanted Moonlight Greatsword is great (minus the heavy attack specials). You're trippin

And that's a bad thing because...?

>a hundred different flavours of shit are better than a dozen different flavours of ice cream

with precise control, you can effectively do the same thing in the older games where you attack in the opposite direction after a swing but it requires you to GIT GUD and not just switch directions with left stick and mash R1/R2

>Actually believing DS3 builds are better
Now that is funny

Soulsfags are autists who literally can't adapt to save their lives. Whenever a game with slightly similar surface presentation appears they shit on it for being a "souls ripoff", and then also bitch it isn't enough like souls. It's little wonder that DS2, the most unique of the series, gets shit on by most Soulsfags despite being objectively the best entry in the series in many regards.

RETARDS

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>objectively the best entry in the series in many regards
Such as?

Literally and unironically >works on my machine, what the fuck is wrong with your controller

The only reason you'd ever do that is to fuck with people in PvP who instinctively pull out a Magic Magic Shield when they see a Moonlight GS. Plus, the Moonlight GS is pretty much the only weapon that only suffers slightly from the infusion, as opposed to literally any other weapon, because everything else gets gimped into oblivion with the Enchanted infusion.

you must also use the right joystick because it gives the most left and right movement