*wins next gen*

Sony wins again. I'd rather play with faggots than women.

okay trannyposter.

>more corporate cock sucking brand war bullshit
It's all so tiresome, just play your games and stfu

Faggots are just annoying while women ruin everything.

for 1080p ps5 is more than enough. this will come out sooner or later.

only at 4k XseX looks and runs better

most mormons only have 1080p tvs' not 4k memes

i am back from my ban x

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>most mormons only have 1080p tvs' not 4k memes
Did anyone say no one has 1080p tvs when the ps4 came out? 4k is the new standard user, go with the times.

>github and many insiders leaks the 9TFlops specs
>Digital foundry talks about a potential 9TFlops spec while analyzing a gonzalo dev kit leak from 3Dmark on PC
>shills are sent to "leak" the console will be stronger than SeX with PS1-3 BC
>M$ reveals SeX to be 12Tflops with hardware reveal and in dept analysis
>2 days later sony announces PS5 specs with a very suspiciously high variable GPU clock speed, considering the cooling performance and form factor SeX goes with many people seems to believe these clocks were raised at the last minute to mitigate SeX raw power superiority
>the presentation spends quite some time to damage control about TFlops and how they're a meaningless measurement of performance, the same company who boasted about PS4 PRO's insane 4K capabilites and 4TFlops of power
>sonygros believes the console is actually 10Tflops and resort to boast about a 15% faster SSD and games that doesn't even exists yet
im having a blast reading all this shit

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>*wins next gen*
can i safely install Linux or W10? no? what exclusives does it have?
i'd buy this SeXbox if M$ let me handle it like a PC

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>im having a blast reading all this shit
me too, this was without a single doubt a desperate move by Sony but it doesnt really matter since they will sell exclusive titles. M$ cant do shit about it and end up as a sportsballs multiplat and netflix maschine

>>sonygros believes the console is actually 10Tflops and resort to boast about a 15% faster SSD and games that doesn't even exists yet
it's twice as fast actually.

No exclusives ever nor earlier releases ever = no reason to buy ever

Don't see how that strategy wins a gen.
At worst at least PS5 gets me jap games earlier, even assuming it won't have a single exclusive I give a shit about and that 100% of jap games get ported to PC.

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mostly for first party titles

It's "Power of the cell" all over again

snoys will buy anything sony put out

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No, just literally twice as fast, just as Xsex has 2 more Tflops, no magic here.

>impeach drumpf!
rent free

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PC is also a microsoft platform.

I didn't say anything about the perfomance of the games. Just that the SSD is twice as fast according to the spec sheet.

these days i can only cringe at consolekids

>but my poopooflops

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>At worst at least PS5 gets me jap games earlier, even assuming it won't have a single exclusive I give a shit about and that 100% of jap games get ported to PC.
Do you have a 1.5k pc with a 800 dorrar gpu? no, then why should you care about that?

1080p60 is cheap as fuck right now. more than enough for hentai games the other user is playing.

but user consoletards dont want the freedom of a pc

t.potato pc owner

M$ would literally crash the whole DIY market with one swift move

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Yes, we all must donate money to a multinational corporation! They are our friend, entertain us during dark times!

how many exclusive gaems per TFLOP does microsoft provide?

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>when you have nothing else to say anymore

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I agree, now more than ever the 2Tflop advantage won't amount to much, because differences at resolutions close to 4K are much less noticeable than equivalent differences below 1080p (1800p upscaled VS actual 4k isn't nearly as noticeable as 720p vs 1080p). Same for framerate where 30fps and 60fps are worlds appart but 60fps and ~80fps aren't as dissimilar.

I actually do. GPU is not top-end but the CPU is for work reasons. If a game comes to PC the same day then there is no reason to get it on console, which is why Xsex is literally useless. 100% of its library will not only release on PC but also on the same day.
While with the PS5, even though I don't give a shit about the vast majority of Sony 1st party games, I do care about Jap games and half of them tend to remain on consoles only, while the other half does come to PC but delayed (which I can't stand, especially when it's never a consistent delay). So there's definitely a reason to buy a PS5.

But what does the magic SSD do in terms of game development?

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>no arguements
>resort to meme posting
yep, we're done here

Zero.
We can all agree that Xsex is a useless console. A couple more mostly irrelevant Tflops, also more expensive than PS5 (by $50 minimum, maybe even $100) and no games.

But despite being a useless system, it does indeed have more Tflops, I was just pointing that out. The guy somehow couldn't believe PS5 is twice as fast to the point the SSD can substitute many of RAM's uses, so I had to throw him a bone about Xsex's extra Tfloppies.

It's actually the first major jump we've seen in generations, so no one knows yet. All we know is that it can deeply change game design - in what manner depends on each dev, wait and see.

Of course in the real world no 3rd party dev will dedicate time to it nor design games around it since they have to pander to Xsex and PC's lower speeds (PC PCIe4.0 standards/optimization will get as good as PS5's in 3+ years so it'll eventually get there, just not now). So in 95% of PS5 games the only difference will be the default 2x faster loading speeds, and no microstutters (if other versions have them). You'll only see a substancial change to game design in 1st party games.

the point that user is trying to make is that sony exclusives are worthless fluff games that just showhorn in popular game trends into mediocre third person action games

>Snoy cope is starting to surpass Xbot cope in 2013
Incredible

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>You'll only see a substancial change to game design in 1st party games.
Like?

i obviously caught that and made fun of his retardation but thanks for stating the very obvious cope of that anons post
>We can all agree that Xsex is a useless console
i want to install W10 or Linux, lets make a petition for that!
i wouldnt call it that useless, if M$ got the brains to get 'exclusive' 1 years deals with sportsball games they would sell a whole lot more consoles. and i guess multiplats are going to run a bit better or look a bit better at the same resolution.

>its a 'user plays dumb to let other list first party gaems just to say THATS NOT GAEMS!' episode

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>Question is not asking for games. But asking what the SSD is actually going to do for first party games that makes it so unique and not a gimmick
>"user PLAYS DUMB FOR A LIST OF GAMES"

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Watch the gdc talk he goes through what a fasy ssd enables you to do, for example potentially stream multiple gigabytes of dat for what,s behind you as you turn insted of having to have everything in ram at all times because you can't count on the hard drive being able to give you the data in time

>youtu.be/ph8LyNIT9sg

>no VR

Dropped

its amazing how this nigga and his gay lover don mattrick crashed the xbox brand irreparably, and now they shifted to this netflix style game dev bullshit.
Real fucking shame.

Ps5 wilk have more effective ram and xbox will waste some on the quick resume feature I assume while on ps5 game boots in a second or two instead of staying in the background

PC Games running on SSD already do this and some games like NFS Heat and Total Warhammer 2 are built for that exact same tech Cerny is talking about
>This magic SSD will transform how games are made!
This is "power of the cloud/cell" all over again.

Honestly Don Mattrick made a lot of decisions that killed the 360's momentum just to chase after the Wii buyers.
MS could have owned games like Mass effect and made sequels to successful xbox games like alan Wake but they chose to make more kinect garbage instead.

Hard to tell. The examples given were about loading times, like games that add corridors to mask loading, like DarkSouls where you have tight cliffs between major zones to that you don't enter a loading screen, with this you can have major linked in more imaginative ways if you wish to, without the corridor constraint. Destiny is another obvious example where you have open areas and loading corridors connecting them. Devs also complain that a good portion of the late development crunch is optimizing this aspect of RAM usage to avoid slowdowns and loads.
The SSD is fast enough to only load object directly in your PoV, if you turn 90º (or whatever your FOV is) everything can instantly disappear beyond your view and load in front of you, without adding dozens of extra GB to your RAM to accomplish this. So you can design zones with more detail or make them bigger with that in mind.
You can also move your character/POV much faster without constraint, we all know the disaster of invisible trees in GTA5 that destroy your plane because they didn't load in time, or the DLC bike in Zelda BoTW that makes the Switch stutter for seconds every 5 seconds in some areas (and Switch is all flash, no HDD).
And I'm sure there's other stuff a layman like me can't think about.

Of course all of those factors are possible on Xsex/PC which are also PCIe4.0. But PS5 can do them twice as fast. Current consumer PC PCIe4.0 isn't still optimized well enough to function as a substitute for RAM, too many bottlenecks between all the parts (see the orange "segments" in pic related as a quick example, even if top of the line SSD's are as good there are bottlenecks that impede them). But like I said it'll get to PS5 speeds in a few years. Xsex won't though, for obvious reasons.

I meant useless from my point considering I always have a good PC for work reasons. For those with mid-spec PC's then it's better than their machine for a while.

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PC don't have 8-9GB/s SSD and o oc your CPU has to check-ik and park the data with the CPU

wow, you caught one single sentence cerny said. very impressive. now go be a seething faggot somewhere else. meanwhile every user here saw both M$ and Snoys presentation (if you want to call it) and are talking about it. too bad you want to remain a stubborn idiot.
have fun

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This looks like a disaster waiting happen god damn those components welcome to hell mother fucker.

That just sounds like "Installing to a PC SSD but faster" and even then Sony 1st party devs are going to still have enough bloat that they will still have slow climbing up ladder cutscenes to load in the next area

It's not, he explained how a 10x faster ssd on ps4 only meant 2x faster loading, same happens on PC, I know I am using PC, PS5 adresses all the bottlenecks that cause this

>PS5 adresses all the bottlenecks that cause this
yes, thats what all the custom hardware is made for

Based and idort master race-pilled

cute fridge :3

All this talk about a "Balanced" system just reminds me of pre release Xbone damage control

*has no games*

Xbox's solution is their velocity architecture which compresses game files at 100% and decompresses them through their SSD. This means they dont even need that fast of an SSD and game downloads will be much smaller.

I'd rather have faster load speeds than a few extra pixels tbqh.
Not to mention being able to continue playing my PS4 library.

> and even then Sony 1st party devs are going to still have enough bloat that they will still have slow climbing up ladder cutscenes to load in the next area
Yes bloat will always be around. But they'll have 2x less bloat. And those last %'s points of less bloat will usually translate to no bloat at all, it's those remaining % speeds that make the SSD as fast as RAM.

The Xbone was a less balanced system than PS4. The shittalk was about it being 40% less powerfult (PS5 is 20% less than Xsex for perspective) while costing $100 more.
On the other hand PS4pro was a horribly balanced system and XboneX was a much better one (not just because it cost $100 more and had more Tflops, even if it was less powerful it'd still be better)

Even if that was true, you still don't pay Microsoft for it.