There's an actual phenomenon where fags on Yas Forums want a game to be a huge catastrophe and not view things through the lens of reality. A game cannot simply be "mediocre," or just lack in a single department, it has to be "the worst ever!" And people will genuinely argue every game is that next amazing failure.
And a 10 out of 10 game does not have to be perfect. A 10 only has to do what it was supposed to and be thoroughly entertaining. And a 10 is more likely to exist than a truly bad game.
SWTOR ruined this board, but god damn was that release a fun one
Jace Morgan
Yeah Yas Forums became a despicable shithole after that whole controversy. Everyone wants every game to be "unforgivable" if it has even one flaw. They've completely cast off sensibility in favour of shitposting, thinking it'll bring everyone together..
DmC for example made Yas Forums very very, happy because it was a travesty of a game.
I guarantee you with 100% success that rangebanning Michael and his advertisement threads would actually remove tons of TORtanic threads in this board.
Liam Sanders
Yas Forums wasn't happy until the original trilogy HD release and DMC5's success vindicated everyone who (rightfully) pointed out DmC was a travesty of a game.
Aiden Nelson
And what's the alternative? A glorified forum of shills where all games are praised regardless of quality, and "wrongthink" is banned on sight?
Adam Diaz
This is literally what's happening with FF7R right now. The demo was great and this boarding is just praying it flops just to see a game flop
Jack Rogers
Christ you fucking idiot. Judge a game on its merits. Don't fucking hope every game is the new worst game ever.
Jace Brooks
fuck off with this false dichotomy bullshit. the alternative is a where you can make proper ass criticisms instead of spamming your autism or god forbid you can avoid walking into threads you hate and maybe, just maybe, make a thread about a game you like while everyone calls you a shill for actually liking something
Cameron Wood
>waaah Yas Forums doesn't like what I like >modern games aren't dumb down mainstream drivel >how dare you criticize my false idol game developer Shut up. Gaming sucks now and everyone knows it.
The future of gaming seemed so bright in the 90s and early 2000s when gameplay was at its peak. Now we have console kiddies' never-ending pissing contests over whose console has the shinier graphics and nobody criticizes lazy game development or lazy developers hopping on bandwagon checklist games. There's no reason for every game to have character creator, crafting, lootcrates, day-1 DLC, preorder DLC, class-based gimmicks, progression/ranking systems, matchmaking, and I could just go on. Your thread is bad and you should feel bad.
Sebastian Gonzalez
>If you like something you're a shill. That's not how it works, faggot. Grow up and realize people are capable of enjoying things without shitting on something else, faggot.
Eli Lee
Basically, nobody cares about gameplay anymore. It's been dethroned by gwaffix, trend bandwagons, cosmetics, crafting, and a bunch of other bullshit that does nothing to improve gameplay at all (and only serves to distract devs from actually making good gameplay).
Ian Watson
It's obvious to anyone that's been here for a prolonged amount of time that the negativity and nihilism of this board has reached a critical level over the past year. This board has always been cynical and pessimistic, but we've come to a point were every release is deemed a massive world-ending catastrophe months before it's even close to having an announced release date. Every single thread is petty squabbling based on assumptions, conjecture and knee jerk reactions which mostly aren't even genuine. A game will be announced, Yas Forums will shitpost it into oblivion, it gets released and sells well and then we just move on to the next thing pretending like our faux outrage never existed. It's all so very tiresome.
Whoa! Way to stick it to corporate america! Your high school buddies are so impressed! Stay ever vigilante against people liking things bruh, God help us all if you ever take one at face value and it was a secret shill! Yas Forums would crumble! Godspeed, last line of defense!
Ryder Lee
Your description of Yas Forums is no different than how people posting on Yas Forums felt half a decade ago
James Adams
it just keeps getting worse man. no excuse to handwave it. like there was a time the president getting his dick sucked was a scandal. now he embezzles charities and profits off the presidency while putting his useless children in charge major country decisions and it gets called a political witch hunt
Jordan Sanders
Maybe your rhetoric is too obviously over the top and ridiculous. People would take you seriously if you posted thoughtful criticisms and not autistic rage.
Angel Davis
Is it even really Tortanic anymore though? The most obnoxious cases of doomsaying I've seen the past year almost invariably revolve around crying about female character designs.
Oliver Edwards
I'm not handwaving it, but you haven't said anything new about Yas Forums. Your original post could have been copypasta from ~2013 Yas Forums and it would fit just as easily.
Nolan Taylor
It's gotten worse, user. It's gotten so much worse. .hack// threads are the only threads I can enjoy here anymore.
True. Only it's a half a decade later. The predictability of it all is mundane and keeping a level of constant aggressive unhappiness is exhausting. The only solution is to stop coming but for some reason we can't.
Ryder Bennett
>There's an actual phenomenon where fags on Yas Forums want a game to be a huge catastrophe and not view things through the lens of reality. That's not a thing. People tend to bring up tortanic only when they have a game to defend.
Adrian Garcia
>It's gotten worse, user. It's gotten so much worse. Again, thats exactly how people felt about Yas Forums nearly ten years. This board past the point of no redemption since 2007~2012 depending on how long you've posted here.
Christian Phillips
I see what you're saying m8 but this is Yas Forums. We're here to meme it up and shitpost anonymously. Not have reasonable discussions.
Why don't you go to literally any other game site that has some level of accountability and let us have fun?
Jaxon Nguyen
i could make an engrossing rpg and if i had a small throwaway town sidequest where people are in a communist type society and you're there for 10 minutes in a 200hour game i would be accused of being a commie propagandist and any thread about my game would inevitably devolve into hitler vs stalin shitposting
Gabriel Johnson
I don't believe you. Nobody posts that comic if you post real, thoughtful concerns. That's the kind of thing you have posted against you when you see a feature and declare "IT'S OVER! ____ IS FINISHED!" because of one nitpick from a trailer.
Daniel Sanders
>We're here to meme it up and shitpost anonymously. This is what a newfag thinks. >Not have reasonable discussions. Anonymity is a tool to share honesty without the repercussions of having your reputation harmed, not start arguments for arguments sake. Yas Forums was better without people like you.
Your indie project would be shit on just as hard back then, the only difference is Yas Forums wasn't as obsessed with politics. But that has very little to do with Yas Forums's level of pessimism towards actual games.
Daniel Rodriguez
Yas Forums is made up of a majority of people who think like he does. Anonymity is a "tool" to shit the place up in between karma farming on reddit for like half this board's userbase.
Eli Thompson
hype for new games on old v you would get called a shill. then a thread actual discussion could happen. most threads were just thinly veiled Yas Forums threads. nu Yas Forums the hype gets shit on. any discussion about a game after release makes you shill. every thread is thinly veiled Yas Forums bait
Ian Reyes
>Anonymity is a "tool" to shit the place up in between karma farming on reddit for like half this board's userbase. I'm convinced reddit was the worst thing to happen to the internet.
Nolan Adams
Yas Forums is fun and jolly shitposting when you're young but then after a while you want to have a serious thread now and then. Only to have it ruined buy some off topic nonsense. Then it dawns on you that there's no real sense of community here. Anybody you may have had a good discussion about that niche game is gone. You'll never find them. As you get even older this lack of community makes you bitter and you start hating on basically any website that allows you to have some form of community (reddit, facebook, twitter etc). You're also more likely to identify yourself into arbitrary groups like sonyfan or PCmustard race because it's better than nothing.
Basically Yas Forums gets shit as you get older, it didn't "become" shit, it was always the same. Feel threads were just ronery threads
Carson Collins
this board has been in the "nu Yas Forums" phase for the most of its existence at this point
Hudson Nelson
Yeah desu posting was the height of discussion m8. >Anonymity is a tool to share honesty without the repercussions of having your reputation harmed, not start arguments for arguments sake. I used to tell myself this too but you need to come to terms that you're like 10% of the userbase.
Owen Edwards
>Basically Yas Forums gets shit as you get older, it didn't "become" shit, it was always the same. This is a massive cope by newfags who were not here back when Yas Forums was actually worth discussing games on.
Yas Forums was always "shit" but it wasn't this shit in the early days when there was an actual community despite the anonymity.
Anthony Hughes
I honestly can't think of a single year without a great-to-fantastic bunch of games so I disagree with this viewpoint.
Daniel Nguyen
2011-2015
Connor Ward
Go to vg for communities retard
Brandon Howard
there is an actual phenomenon going on where thinskinned faggots try to blame people shitting on their favorite games on this event
Landon Roberts
I don't think it is exclusive to Yas Forums, outrage culture is a thing after all, people want to be angry about how "Bad"/"Evil" something is and tear shit down and be justified for doing it.
Leo Torres
Yeah horseshit buddy. This is Yas Forums. Anons are constantly looking to harp on shit out of either spite for a product, or for a platform thanks to fanboyism, or just out of spite for people seen enjoying or hyping a thing.
Mason Jones
there's enough people here being generally happy about it you blind cretin
Luke Wilson
That's not even the worst part. I genuinely love video games and I want to talk about the things I love. But now everyone here just wants to shit on everything all the time. If I tried to make a thread about the games I'm playing it was just get Wojak'd and Pepe'd to hell and then 404. But if I made a thread saying THIS GAME IS SHIT FUCK YOU then it would hit the bump limit. It's gay. I hate you people
>doom eternal comes out >most threads made about it that night are saying it's a disaster >now the consensus is that it's good So these are all obviously raid threads right?
Horseshit back to you, literally go back to all the other places if you can't stand negative opinions about things you enjoy.
Christopher Ward
2011 alone had Dead Space 2, Dark Souls, Prinny 2, Mortal Kombat 9 and The Witcher 2. Won't bother checking the other years because I know I'm still right.
William Wright
there's negative opinions and then there's campaigns of autism that happen like tifas tits
Henry Price
Negative opinions are fine but fuck sometimes I just want to be happy and discuss something I love with like minded anons
Joseph Miller
>If I tried to make a thread about the games I'm playing it was just get Wojak'd and Pepe'd to hell and then 404. But if I made a thread saying THIS GAME IS SHIT FUCK YOU then it would hit the bump limit. It's gay. Turbo gay.
if one good game redeems an entire year then you have low standards
Caleb Hill
No, the real reason people hate websites like Reddit and twitter is power tripping mods, fetish niggers invading and making communities about them (troons, furries, etc) and last but not least those fuckers always find a way to weasel some political shit into a series or franchise that is completely unrelated.
Mason Morgan
You won't bother checking because you know I'm right. 3 good games and 2 genuinely mediocre ones, underwhelming for the average year in vidya.
Ian Russell
But you can just... laugh it off as the autistic bs that it is, like you said yourself.
Josiah Adams
No, TORtanic didn't ruin the board now, it got ruined by multitude of factors. >Phoneposters make short bait replies with the rise of soijaks >Election brought more people than usual >Those same people are now the ones who make incomprehensible arguments or retarded baits about every other game in existence. People keep saying it's TORtanic, but not many shitposters know about it other than the word now.
Leo Scott
Some people just can't afford a VR headset so they want it to fail.
Michael Butler
Personal opinions are not valid criticism.
Logan King
>power tripping mods check >fetish niggers invading and making communities about them (troons, furries, etc) check >those fuckers always find a way to weasel some political shit into a series or franchise that is completely unrelated. also check Yas Forums = social media confirmed?
David Hernandez
not when you literally can't have a thread because a couple dedicated autists wish to drown out any discussion by calling everyone shills for 300 posts
Hunter Baker
if you think Yas Forums has power tripping mods you haven't posted on the average game forum. Yas Forums mods are too incompetent and inconsistent to power trip
Kevin Miller
absolute nigger speak
Nathan Fisher
I don't think this has ever been true. Tortanic is only ever brought up by people in response to a game they like being criticized, as if they can't fathom the idea of someone having problems with a thing they like and take criticisms of a product or company as a personal attack towards them. These people are the ultimate consumers. How about you learn to actually respond to criticism instead of going "NOOO STOP WANTING MY FAVORITE PRODUCT TO FAIL!" If you don't feel their criticisms are worth replying to then don't. Stop being a faggot.
Hudson Lopez
I'm going to kill you
Leo Foster
they do though Yas Forums, Yas Forums, /vg/, and Yas Forums are all common targets of mod powertripping its better than other sites since we have more freedom here by default but when it comes to actual fair moderation they dont give a fuck
Evan Edwards
Maybe your rhetoric is too obviously over the top and ridiculous. People would take you seriously if you posted thoughtful criticisms and not autistic rage.
Brody Hill
Last year I decided to just don't bother discussing games I like or I'm interested on in this place. It was a pretty good decision because arguing with autists is tiresome and at the end of the day it's just wasted time.
Sometimes is pretty tempting to participate when someone makes a thread about a game I like but after a while I think "nah, not worth dealing with shitposters".
>Why are you on Yas Forums even? Videogame news, meta threads and off-topic threads.
Yas Forums isn't even good for timely videogame news nowadays so I guess you're just here for the meta and offtopic
Jacob Rivera
This. If you wanted actual discussion then I would be happy to engage. But most anons here aren't looking for that. They just want to bitch about something. No discussion, just bait posts. Be honest if I tried to disagree with someone and typed out a well organized post as to why I disagree what would happen? Would they engage me looking for discussion or call me a tranny?
Jaxson Sullivan
Nah, that's not true and it's revisionist history to say otherwise. When people here "criticize" things, it's almost always in the most ridiculous or bullshit thing that is no way to be true. I can think of so many examples where games before release it was always shitposting season, and after that there are some falseflaggers here and there. The only time where people bring up actual criticism is when they fully played it and actually explain shit that went bad, which is where most of the shitposters get bored and go to other places to annoy people with. You're the one who should stop being a faggot and not let some falseflaggers influence you.
Nathaniel Howard
You have no idea what you're talking about. Out of all the boards you listed the mods are only active enough on Yas Forums to actually powertrip, and only because they actually give an iota of a shit about protecting that board from mindless wojak spam and Yas Forums style shitposting. /vg/ has no moderation outside of a few generals with powertripping jannies, but they're in the minority. Yas Forums's moderation is more lax than its ever been, mods could not give enough a fuck to power trip here, let alone moderate.
Adrian Campbell
Your favorite game is garbage.
Benjamin Rogers
>Yas Forums's moderation is more lax than its ever been, mods could not give enough a fuck to power trip here, let alone moderate. This. Mods here don't give a fuck and that's the problem
No one on Yas Forums genuinely criticizes games or plays games fully or actually explains why they're shit, every critique is almost always bullshit that is never true. The TORtanic mindset is bigger than ever and its revisionist to say that its ever brought up to defend bad games someone likes.
Wyatt Hernandez
I honestly don't like to follow social media or videogame news outlets so Yas Forums is way more practical to me even if the news are one or two days late. Also, you can find on Yas Forums news and announcements that can't be covered by regular media due to legal reasons or red tape (like fan-translations of non-localized games or cracked versions of delisted games).
Adrian Reyes
powertripping isn't an ongoing issue (except for Yas Forums I've heard it still happens), but on-topic video game threads still get deleted all the time, and if you try and ask for more info through feedback you get shuttered.
Easton Richardson
I think it's good actually the music is phenomenal and the gameplay is potentially the best in the series. The story may not appeal to some people but I enjoy it personally. But all of this is subjective. I welcome your opinion as to why Final Fantasy X is bad
I'd rather good games get shit on, than mediocre ones get praised.
Charles Gutierrez
Gotta love outrage culture.
Charles Jones
Every game is mediocre if you make a big deal of every small problem
Tyler Flores
>Never managed to discuss Nioh on this board without ferocious shitposting drowning the threads >Only by looking at the catalog there is always a thread shitting on the sequel using the same "arguments" used to shit on the first.
and that is explicitly not true because I've HAD actual discussion on games I've played before, and it's not my fault whatsoever you neither saw nor heard of it. not even the guy you're replying to but it's straight-up incorrect, to which you'll probably reply that "it's such a small amount as to be basically irrelevant" or some variation thereof which is also untrue, because I've had SEPARATE conversations about games in-depth here just as TORtanic shitposting is used as a weapon, it's also used as a defense honestly I think the ultimate reason why threads often turn to shitposting is that as per usual people constantly forget NOT TO FUCKING ENGAGE TROLLS HOLY SHIT IT'S EVEN AN ANIMATED BANNER JOKE BECAUSE PEOPLE STILL FUCKING DO IT but on the same front you can't just handwave legit criticisms with "you just want the TORtanics!!!!" I do however think that the higher-profile a game, the truer your words are
Logan Phillips
I just want the rest of Yas Forums to love video games as much as I do. Is that such a big deal?