>2015 graphics
>2010 animations
>script written by a 4 year old, with maybe like 2-3 actually badass/cool moments in the entire game
>pic
>the final boss is literally just a bullet sponge
>more shooting exposes his ribs
>start laughing uncontrollably because of how bad it visually looks
>Is this the standard for games in 2020?
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I don’t know, I’m enjoying it so far but I haven’t reached the final boss. Honestly the game moves so fast that I haven’t really noticed the supposedly dated graphics, but I think the sound design is worse than Doom 2016.
why is a capra demon in full armor in DOOM?
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>I don't know, is it?
DOOM ETERNAL STATISTICALLY CONFIRMED MEDIOCRE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ok DOOMer
>Icon of Sin plays like Icon of Sin
I don't know what you expected. Nigger never did anything but shoot fireballs every couple seconds
Yas Forums btfo'd
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The thing is, it’s statistically mediocre. I’d say that 57 or so percent of the “good” votes can be safely ignored. They are undoubtedly bots, shills or worse, zoomers. The kind of filth you should never interact with.
for bethesda yes
From the gameplay loop standpoint, it's better than Doom 2016. All your weapons matter, the enemies are fiercer and more numerous and the game gives you more tools on how to deal with them. I think the soundtrack is better too. The slayer gates are better than the rune challenges.
But they broke any immersion factor they had with the game, the GUI is literally the meme people spread. The game has a lot of fat that needs to be cut out and everything they added that wasn't essential to the gameplay loop actively takes you out of it and is more distracting than worthwhile.
This isn't your next TORtanic.
Keep dreaming, aspie.
Solid 10/10 game; Yas Forums was wrong again.
>people who like thing I don't like aren't actually people
Take your meds schizo
>boss is a bullet sponge
no shit
>69
nice
>All your weapons matter
No, they don't. You're forced to use them because they gimped the ammo count across the board. If ammo count wasn't shit, the shotgun with sticky bombs could carry you a long fucking way through the game.
>I think the soundtrack is better too
This is subjective, but I disagree. It sounds like painkiller, not doom. It's not really a bad thing I guess, but it's not better than 2016 to me because it just makes it sound like a different game.
>The slayer gates are better than the rune challenges.
I can agree with that
>the GUI is literally the meme people spread
that too, it's cluttered af
>3 dedicated melee buttons. No way to delay blood punch.
>swap and fire grenade keys instead of just 2 grenade keys. there are only 2 grenades.
>flamethrower does no damage. Another unsatisfying mechanic to juggle to keep armor up.
These are my biggest problems with the game. I'm sick of having to deliberately miss shotgun shots to stagger minor enemies instead of outright killing them. You can't melee most of the time to stagger a zombie because your blood punch is up and it just pulps him and you don't get shit.
Oh and if you accidentally click the kuck armor you can't take it off.
>Icon of Sin
>Not an icon
What is this shit?
'Icon' doesn't mean 'thing on the wall.' Literally anything could be an icon.
Take YOUR meds you naïve little shit
die in a fire seething discord trannyfag shill
Bruh just use the fucking plamsa rifle, it stuns those guys in 2 hits
Gimping ammo wasn't the first solution I'd recommend. However in Doom 2016 you only needed maybe 3 weapons at most to carry you through the game and I never used the chainsaw or BFG. I mostly used the shotgun, SSG and seige cannon One of my biggest complaints about 2016 was lack of weapons balancing and Doom Eternal addresses it in some fashion and once you get used to using the chainsaw, ammo isn't nearly as scarce. The problem is that the game gives you a powerful weapon (combat shotgun) which has gimped ammo to compensate for how destructive it is as your first weapon, so you're constantly wasting shots on weak shit that the 2016 pistol or proper melee should be taking care of. However, that issue basically goes away once you get the heavy cannon and learn how to use the chainsaw more often.
One thing I would fix though is having the melee actually do damage. The blood punch is a nice addition but give back melee to clear out zombies at least.
its nudoom
what do you expect
Not him but the plasma rifle usually ends up exploding everything to chunks even though I just single-tap them. I had the most success with the rifle, but it would sometimes also kill them.
I really don't know why they couldn't just have left the one melee hit to put a zombie into a glory kill state thing in.
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>All your weapons matter
I have played throug the entire campaign up to Nekramol II or whatever using only the sticky grenade launcher, arbalest, and the occasional BFG shot. Before I got the ballista I used standard plasma fire a couple of times to overload the tank guy’s shields.
I dicked around with super shotty but (as expected) it sucks
I used the sniper rifle like once to test out the weakpoint thing and immediately stopped when I realized you could trip weakpoints with sticky grenades
I’ve literally never even fired the chaingun or rocket launcher once.
Ammo is so easy to come by with the recharging chainsaw and the perpetually spawning ammo pinatas.
>One thing I would fix though is having the melee actually do damage.
It does, but it's a paltry amount. You have to melee about 20 times to get a zombie to stagger. Dashing into an enemy does more damage. I think they wanted melee's purpose to simply be to falter demons. I've done it to almost everything and they stumble all the time. For Zombies, I've found the Flame Belch and a dash into them is perfect, gets them right into stagger.
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this didnt age well in a small amount of time
>I'm sick of having to deliberately miss shotgun shots
That’s what you get for using Super Shitgun. Combat shotgun’s sticky grenades always stagger fodder to flashing on impact before detonating; sticky at point blank for a guaranteed GK proc.
what makes icon of sin different from the other generic massive demons and mechs?
It’s a reference. Doom Eternal is nothing but fucking references.
Kill him, Pete.
>what makes icon of sin different from the other generic massive demons and mechs?
Resurrected Son of the betrayer.
Eh I've only played till level 3 but it looks like its doom 2016 balancing again. they need to nerf the sticky grenades to just do surface level damage/weak point damage
Well, not even that anymore.
Titans are basically primordial demons, they were there for Eons and the Icon is the most powerful of the Titans, as it continues to draw in souls just by being in the area. It's power warps reality and would cause the entire universe to fall into Hell, if it was allowed to consume the entire planet.
It’s so much worse. In 2016 you had a real cooldown on grenades so every shot had to count, making direct hits more challenging and satisfying. In Eternal you get five fucking sticky grenades before the cooldown kicks in; you can Blood Punch a cyber manc, unload all 5 into him, and just walk away while they go off and he dies. Omae wa shindarou.
Ballista is better balanced than Gauss though. You EITHER get the gigantic hitbox shockwave that rips off someone’s head when you fire over their shoulder, OR you get the gigantic damage guaranteed stagger shot, but not both, and the latter has a delay while the bolt explodes. Siege Gauss was a fucking eraser, point it near anything you don’t like and it fucks it inside out. Ballista is situational, you can actually miss bolts against heavy enemies when they move around too much.
>Ammo is so easy to come by with the recharging chainsaw and the perpetually spawning ammo pinatas.
People that can't into the ammo management are literal brainlets.
You can also get the red barrel respawn skill and the red barrel drops ammo skill.
Bah no, that would make it worthless. As the game goes on, the sticky becomes less prominent, SSG is a better option for shells, not only for the immediate armor from the mastery, but it's damage is just better. The other guy is probably trying to use it from mid range. 5 grenades can just barely take out a Hell Knight. 2 SSG shots will kill it.
You are actually mistaking which of those things is doing the damage. The Grenades aren't the damage dealers, it's the Blood Punch. Weak point removal causes a lot of damage, so when you do it to a Cyber Mancubus, it's armor, plus cannons, of course five grenades is enough to kill it afterwards, almost anything is. Watch how much grenades it takes to take out a Prowler vs other weapons.
wasn't a powerup that improved the hitbox for the gauss in 2016?
No need.
Run around shooting shit. Whenever ammo, armor or health is low (or ideally, the instant both have recharged) find the nearest pinata, belch-chainsaw combo, keep going.
As long as you take advantage of all GK windows that appear and don’t play like a dunce and get corner-fucked you’re basically always topped up.
Uh so why did demons start wearing armor?
Its slow, and will just stand there, sometimes shooting tiny fire balls from it's skull, and occasionally try to hit you
>walks right through skyscrapers like they're nothing
>it's slams and punches barley do any damage to the one you're on
>has the most generic attacks imaginable
>isn't even aggressive
so this is the power of the icon of sin.....rip and tear xdddd
They're aliens now. "Hell" is too Christian for zoomers to be cool and hip.
just stop being a tantrum throwing jackass, noone impressed or amused by this kind of retarded hissy fits.
Tomorrow you will write something about half life how its such shit and a dissapointment just to hear your own voice echo in your empty skull right?
>You are actually mistaking which of those things is doing the damage
The point is you can 1-combo a cyber manc in like 2 seconds and it only costs you 4 shotgun shells to do it.
>prowler
IDK, 3 direct hits with the sticky? That sounds right. Basically anything I can’t kill with a single “magazine” of stickies I just used Arbalest instead, and I never used it on Prowlers, so I gotta assume it’s less than 5.
I'm having fun with it but there is a surprising lack of technology moments for a Doom game. Enemies need have more weight, gibbing could be way better.
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Aliens? The fuck?
but what if only more powerful enemies are left?
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God you're retarded.
I was wondering why they were downplaying the satanic shit so much, the pentatgram you see on earth is pretty much the only thing of that nature in the whole game.
cope
frost granade
Clearly you haven't been to any of the Hell levels in Eternal yet.
The common arguments I've seen from people who have actually played the game and not just Yas Forums shitposters are
>basic punch is too weak
That's to compensate blood punch being fucking OP but you probably just ignore that feature like an idiot
>not enough ammo
And 2016 had the issue of giving you too much ammo. The end game was pretty much just using the SS and gauss rifle exclusively
Well, not really aliens. They still seem to be very much hell as the place that loves to murder and make everyone suffer. But I don't think it's necessarily the sort of hell where you go down to automatically if you're a sinner. To be honest the new Doom lore is a bit convoluted with all those worlds, not-angels and fuck knows what else.
in doom 2016, it would the heat blast from the plasma rifle.
I'm almost at the 2hr Mark and thinking about refunding. Not enjoying it the slightest, the forced glory killing sucks, playing at ultra violence . Also all this lote exposition without explaining shit is tiresome
does he say rip and tear?
How about just allowing the fucking ebin Doomslayer to punch a common zombie to death? He does much more insane shit, why is punching a bad thing? Why does your dash deal more damage than a basic punch? It makes absolutely no sense even if you account for the blood punching shit.
And since your argument about ammo has some merit, how about actually limiting the ammo for the weapons that were too strong instead of fucking it up for every weapon?
Finally, gore that looks like the sprites.
the art direction is absolutely subhuman Reddit cancer. It's like they missed everything that DOOM should be about on purpose and made those mecha-shits in a game about demons and hell.
Of course
>It will still sell gangbusters
Meanwhile OP's transition surgery keeps getting delayed because of the Chinese Flu.
MY DOOMERINO
what you dont like toy soldier doom guy ?
shut up and collect literal toys you subhuman consoomer !
If you double dash into a regular mob, it will deal damage and actually allow you to GK
Get good nigger
Holy shit, the cope.
it sounds so cringe
That's my fucking point you absolute brainlet, you get a dash on a 0.5s cooldown that is essentially faster than your punch, and it deals more damage. So why the fuck can't you just punch a zombie twice for the same effect?
Keep doing this. Fuck these loud as fuck autists
I've played through the entire game, I was expecting upside-down crosses and shit, the hell levels were pretty much just brimstone and ash.
You actually sound like a resetranny holy shot try making it less obvious next time nigehr
Was it kino?
Are you having a stroke, lil lad?