Why does Obsidian love incels so much?

Why does Obsidian love incels so much?

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and thats a good thing

They don't. That faction are the villains of the game.

There are no villain factions in the game. They all have a point. It's all about what ideals and beliefs you have that speaks to you in one of the factions.

>NCR BAD BECAUSE TAXES
>NCR BAD BECAUSE ITS GENERAL IS POTTY MOUTHED
>NCR BAD BECAUSE DEY TOOK OUR JERBS AND TRADING OUTPOSTS
>Oh, Caesar’s Legion? Sure, they enslave men to be soldiers and rape the women they kidnapped, but I heard from a guy who heard from a girl who heard from another guy that it’s maaaaybe a tiny bit safer in Arizona now
this is literally all the political dialogue you get from new vegas NPCs in a nutshell

Nope. The writers have flat out said Legion were supposed to be the bad guys.

And of course there is fucking villain factions in the game. Even if you don't think the Legion are bad guys surely you at least realized the raiders, for example, are unambiguously bad guys. Or do you think they had a plan to rebuild civilization too?

The NCR and to some extent, the Enclave, are bad because they are trying to recreate the same government that nuked the entire planet in the first place.

Because Avellone and Sawyer are mushroom eating incel junkies who never passed philosophy class.

I was talking about the main factions and not the off hand ones like the Powder Gangers. Of course they're bad. I was talking about the likes of BOS, NCR, Legion, etc

>democracy invented war, before democracy there was just peace and prosperity for all
What kind of fucking moron thinks this? It wasn't even the American democracy that nuked the planet in Fallout. It was communist China that started it.

>incels
the roman empire actually thought like that and history shows that the romans where very successful.

They both launched nukes at the same time.

>enclave are bad because they want to recreate the government
They're bad because they wanted to use chemtrails to kill everyone on earth. The NCR has been shown in a positive light in fallout 2 and NV. The government of the NCR is seen as a "return to status quo" by the wasteland and was welcomed by people all over California and Nevada .

Female supremacism ruined Rome centuries ago. And today it's ruining Europe.

Reminder that many animals die after they are past their fertile age, while human women live much longer, meaning the nature itself considers them more than baby-making machines.

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what the hell are you talking about, dumb mutt?
can you name a female Roman emperor? no. women always knew their place in rome.

If the Legion is supposed to be the villains then why do 90% NPCs in that faction including Caesar have neutral karma?

Because incels are New Vegas' core fanbase.

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Those are unironically the objective facts.

Regardless, the notion it all would have been avoided if not for democracy is just such utter bullshit. It's pathetic how weak the arguments against democracy are in the Fallout games. Democracy invented corruption? Democracy invented bureaucracy? Are you fucking kidding me? God forbid they had read some books beforehand rather than just savoring the smell of their own farts.

Unironically he is right, anything you say to try to counter his statment is pure crying and nothing will change the fact that women are inferior, but that don't mean they are useless.

But in an apocalyptic setting bearing children would be tremendously important job. I don't understand why anyone would think that people would think of human rights or being polite when their life is on the line every day. It's like people would say that the developers of Bioshock Infinite are racists because they had obviously racist characters in the game.

Yeah they raise the children too.

It's not that democracy is necessarily a bad thing. It's just that trying to mirror the pre-war government is only gonna lead to a repeat of history all over again when humanity is restored back to civilization. They're eventually gonna turn into a superpower and gain nuclear weaponry, national resources will run out once again, and they'll start going to war with other nations over it. And then the other nations will threaten to nuke them, and they'll all drop nukes at the same time, etc etc to infinity.

they live way beyond that too, most animals raise their children too to a certain age.

Reminder that nature has jack shit to do with that because it's because of current medicine that the death tolls on births are so low. Believe or not, it used to be much higher when you had to give birth in the middle of woods with no trained people to fuss over you constantly.

NCR is recreating the good parts of pre-war America, without the racism and misogyny and other civil problems. The Enclave are direct enemies with the NCR and want to ethnically cleansed the world from the “mutants”, aka the human victims of the nuclear holocaust they ignited and their descendants. not even the vault dwellers are safe.

"RE: Caesar’s Karma being neutral: I believe at the time my rationale for that Karma setting is that Caesar is in a Mr. Kurtz-like state of unmoored morality. Whatever moral framework he had as Edward Sallow among the Followers has disintegrated after years of being Caesar. I.e., it’s not so much that his Karma is neutral as much as it is alien. That said, I don’t feel strongly about that designation and largely feel that the Karma system was vestigial in New Vegas. If we’re trying to encourage players to form their own opinions about factions and individuals, having a design layer that assigns (essentially) alignment is weird."

death during births is irrelevant to my point.

>It was communist China that started it.
a very important thing about the fallout universe is no one knows who shot first

women always lived more than men.

Wtf i love ceasar legion now

The NCR is the embodiment of scope creep. They are objectively trying to be good, but they also have some very deep shortcomings, and while they solve problems, they also create them. They're simply too ambitious to reasonably maintain their original vision. It's already eroding from FO2 to NV, just give it another 25-50 years and see where it's at then

>NCR BAD BECAUSE DEY TOOK OUR JERBS AND TRADING OUTPOSTS
If you're in a post-apocalyptic nuclear wasteland, getting your source of food taken from you is a pretty big deal.

this is your mind on bull semen

The nuke we see in Fallout 4 creates a mushroom cloud. Only ground detonations cause such an occurrences, and for the purpose of maximizing radiation, while ICBMs detonate midair to increase destruction and minimize radiation.

Vault Tec literally destroyed the world. This was originally intended for the cancelled Fallout 3 by Black Isle (Obsidian then), and Bethesda really loves this idea, but won’t confirm it because they do believe that the core theme of Fallout is that no one knows who bombed first, and it doesn’t matter anyway since people are suffering regardless.

To make more babies and raise more children. They don't live much past that in nature unless they're valued by men for other reasons.

you are not listening.

I read.

not books

No, it’s more like...
>We will tax you for your constitutional right to protection and public services, and a portion of that tax will be covered with excess food you planned on selling for profit to feed the troops guarding you.
>”WTF? NOOOOOOO, THAT’S AUTHORITARIAN!!! THIS IS WHY YOU’RE LITERALLT THE SAME AS THE SLAVE ARMY FRON THE EAST!! Oh, and I don’t think the slave army is *that* bad, they kept their roads safe without taxes!”

Yeah I do.

Stop cluttering my thread or I will have you banned.

I'll have you hanged.

>racism
>misogyny
>problems

The NCR really is not that big. The republic was only about 100,000 people mostly in southern California and it's expansion is not really elaborated on. Redding, vault city, and Reno are all cities that can join the republic and it was strictly stated to have positive effects on the republic. The NCR being overextended is the product of handwaving writing considering that even if the only way to go from the NCR heartlands of the greater LA area to Las Vegas is interstate 15 the route is not really that long even if it has to be done on foot and with pack animals when the NCR is implied to have a working rail network in California itself. The other fronts that they are in like Baja are low level insurgency and teaching tirbals to speak English. All countries go through growing pains but the growing pains of the NCR are exaggerated for narrative effect and to highlight Caesar's propaganda.

How does that NCR semen taste, degenerates?

why are caesarcels obsessed with penises and semen?

Not an argument

>legion rapes and assimilates
>legion territory is safe and peaceful
>ncr expands and taxes
>constant raider threats and ineffective leadership
I know which one id rather choose

Post fun FNV builds and guides bros

bro just use melee weapons lmao

Wait, Caesar's legion didn't take taxes from its inhabitants? Taxes were like a biggie in Rome's days.

just like half the illiterate incels over at /his/ and Yas Forums, caesar knows absolutely nothing about Rome beyond the basic material he read about it, as hinted by his description of it being “so foreign” and “so alien”.

Right, my bad. Ave, true to Caesar.

Which is ironic since Legion boys love the taste of man meat.

ok commie

UGH!
Why can't you just work together?! Don't you see? All this fighting is what keeps you from making progress.

Awful bait thread

Fallout 4 isn't canon.
Have sex.

ok post your number

Follow your advice, legioncel :^)

A pissed female that hates video games created this thread.

Where's the lie though?

kill all incels

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leftist incel kikes in this thread need to be gassed and burned

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>the falseflag "nazi" has arrived
whatcha doing mossad

incel scum are 100% subhuman

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