What is better ? to be born good or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?

>What is better ? to be born good or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?

What kind of 12 yo level of philosophy is this? Anyone who's not a mouth-breathing faggot knows that it's the latter.

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Dont talk shit about my bro Marionaax

It's the former you've caused less harm than the latter.

it wasn't a question

You can only be good if you accept your capacity to be evil

No brainer, to be born good. Sure one is more commendable, but it's not better or preferable. Paarth killed thousands. If he was born good, he wouldn't have. Simple as.

Yeah, but congrats you're a simp

If you're born good, you never do evil by default, so it's definitely that one.

So being a little shit for the first half of my life is better than not being one? How the hell does that make sense?

If you're "overcoming" your "evil nature" then you never had an "evil nature" to begin with as there would be no desire to be good born out of a being innately evil.

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from my point of view, you're the evil one

Seems like I was correct.

>Being an asshole then becoming a decent human being is better than being decent your whole life
Okay retard

>i was evil but after great effort im good

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The Talmud says its better to overcome

The sages said: "The place whereon the penitent stand the wholly righteous could not stand;" as if saying: "their degree is above the degree of those who ever did not sin, because it is more difficult for them to subdue their passion than for the others.[

>good = decent
modern society in a nutshell

ok Shlomo

Get a real religion

It's literally the only thought-provoking thing in the entire goddamn game.

Then you are lost!

>sinners are better than Jesus
whew
I knew they held a grudge, but Jesus.

ahahaha
ahahahahaha

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>He doesn't know

KILL PAARTHUNAAX

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Yeah but his redemption saved the lives of millions by helping to seal away Alduin.
It is never as simple as.

Sure but good thief got first to Paradise

Imagine requiring great effort to reach the bare minimum requirement of "not being a fucking psychopath". No, ex-evil garbage will always be double-faced retards who are at risk to go back to their ways at the slightest temptation.

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God, what a trainwreck of a woman.

Alduin being of the mentioned "born evil" species? Yeah, it's better to be born good. Simple as.

>It’s better to be dealt a shit hand instead of being born with a better one because reasons

neither, being neutral is the best, especially after you've tried being good and evil. that way you get a clearer picture

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Yep. But look at these comments, subhuman IQ all around. It's the latter, you filthy cunts. Go read some books, fuckers. I recommend Rene Girard.

>"You're correct, but also a simpleton."
Based retarded

zip it newfag

Fuck off, dolphin

Based simp

>newfag
Where do you think we are?

>Being a wall-sitting centrist

Based simp

Maybe after your ass gets wide enough from sitting on that fencepost you'll finally have something resembling a spine.

Based simp, simple as.

The same could be said for good when faced with the unfamiliar or temptations

its better to be born good
but i understand criminals think its the latter

>born good
No such thing

To be born good does not imply that you will always be good since being born evil does not mean you can't become good.

"kill these innocents for some easy cash"
"no"

What are you talking about?
If one has an evil nature at first, that means they've done evil things.
If they were good at first, then those evil things would have never happened.

Based simp, simple as.
:^)

Based simp, simple as.
:^)

ok, nigger. Maybe for your race.

Now that's actually racist.

Contrast offers bolder flavor. Can't be good if you didn't learn from being bad. Otherwise you're just neutral. Like if every food was hamburger, it wouldn't be special without pizza or hot dog to make it stand out

are you a retard? it wasnt supposed to be philosophical he was just pointing out his position to someone

Delphine isn't even good herself, she's just a shriveled up cunt

Pedo apologist go

Imagine still being so mentally immature that you see the world in black or white. "Good" isn't real, "evil" isn't real. You think a thief steals because "haha being le evil is fun"? No, what you think is evil is just the status quo system not working out for him for one reason or another, so he turns to other measures out of desperation (crime) because the other option is fucking starving.
Everyone is driven by some degree of selfish self-preservation, from something as simple as "I wouldn't want someone to do that to me" to being some kind of egomaniac who gets off knowing how honorable he is.

Based simp, simple as.
:^)
Also, you're a tranny

if only good and evil was always so clear.

Based simp, simple as.
:^)
Also, you're a tranny

>tfw I still can't find a face wrinkle mod that looks that good
I've tried using the wrinkles from Bijin's mods but they're part of the face texture themselves instead of an overlay.

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There is no difference. Morality is decided by how your actions affect other people. And it doesn't matter if you're good because you're good or because you are surpressing your evilness to be good.

We're not talking about what makes a more interesting character.

If someone used to be immoral and now isn't good for them. However it would have been better if they were moral in the first place.