I have 800 hours in EU4, do we like it?
>game ends in 1821
>no new technology
>1444
>Modding the game instead of just conquering the world with Luwu
Pathetic.
Just save up enough liking mana to like it yourself.
I like Darkest Hour?
What's this?
Why do you care what some faggot retards on Yas Forums think of a game you put nearly 1,000 hours into? Do YOU like the game? That's all that matters.
>Manashit
No
1444.....
1.30 will finally make EU4 playable again by removing the state limit and corruption crap. I can't believe people defended that shit for so long.
>TFW no game that covers both EU and Vicky time periods and plays like Vicky
MEIOU AND TAXES 3.0 WHEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
It's shit
implying they dont break EU 4 with that "update"
>Playing past 1600
To what end
Ideally you've already won by like 1550.
having other people who play the game to talk to can greatly improve the experience
sometimes when a vg general goes to shit or dies i stop playing because of it, or when i notice a stream of v threads about a game i start playing it again
For like a week? Sure. What are you going to do, play animal crossing?
PROTIP: Don't base your happiness on shit you have no control over.
Cannons and coal are added over the course of the game. Better armies and navies are made. What other technology were you talking about?
Paradox forum moderators are the worst. I want to kill every single one of them.
Stupid newfags. If you think that's bad, you don't know shit. The admins on paradoxplaza used to have complete fucking meltdowns.
i am not manually basing it, thats just how interest works, if nobody is bouncing around ideas with you then even the most amazing game will feel boring and you will end up in a rut where you play 2 or 3 old games you are bored of out of habit
I'm not sure that's a good idea. It might be possible to make it work, but I suspect the game would consistently be totally broken by the time it gets to the Vicky 2 time period. If anything it might even be a good idea to split the EU time frame into two separate games.
I do like the idea of taking EU3 as a base and introducing a simplified pop and RGO/industry system from Vicky 2 though.
>have literally ANYTHING bad to say about the game
>1000 post power user comes out of the woodwork to tell you to have fun in the way the devs intended
We all rely on things that are completely out of our control just to live every day.
What? I wasn't talking about the image. I was thinking about my own personal experience with paradox plaza forum moderators.
The more you can take control over, the better. Your ability to enjoy vidya for one.
I've got 2000 hours in ck2. I've got 45 minutes in EU4.
I don't care about the country aspect of either game, I like ck2 because of the fun stories that happen with the characters, this doesn't work in other gsg games that focus on countries/nations. Plus, ck2 has a lot of great mods that have kept me playing for another 1000 hours. ck2 isn't perfect though, the game is far too easy, it's hard not to become the power powerful ruler on the planet in a single generation.
To some extent I agree with you, but it is very unhealthy to cut yourself off from human interaction. And as long as you're aware of the fact that you're not really interested in the game so much as in the interaction and community it facilitates, you are effectively in control of the situation, because you make the decision on what games to play while taking that into consideration.
It's ok
CK2 isn't a grand strat game at all though. It gets lumped in with those games because it's made by Paradox and has an overlapping audience, but it's really a completely different sort of game. That's not a bad thing, it just means that you can't expect to go between EU and CK and expect a similar experience.
Also, EU4 is fucking garbage while CK2 is at least a fun game.
What achievements are you even still missing at this point?
tanks, division, infantry, like civ 5 and such
Johan said eu5 would have imperator pops. Not sure if thats a good thing though
Few of the new easy ones which I can't be bothered to do, and then fucking three mountains. I tried and I tried, but I can't seem to be able to do it without exploits.
>very unhealthy to cut yourself off from human interaction
user I've lived that way most of my life. Even more now that I'm working from home because of the virus
>tfw 2000 hours and still haven't played to 1821
>tanks, division, infantry
What? That's what Victoria 2 is about retard, even tanks are a WW2 thing which is Hearts of Iron.
The fuck are you on about.
Taking inspiration from Imperator doesn't inspire much confidence.
Grand strat is about making choices, and EU4 just takes away too much of my agency as a player. The mana system gets a lot of shit for this, and rightly so, because it underpins the whole game and as long as it remains the way it is, the game can't be fixed. Having them take that out would be encouraging but even then it might not mean they actually understand why it's shit.
The game also just plain doesn't make any fucking sense. What even is coring in this game, if you can do it in a two year or so long process with an arbitrary amount of mana? It's not administrative integration, because that's also modelled with province-level centralization, and that wouldn't give you a claim on a province. But it can't be a legitimate claim of ownership by right, because that would take more time. Basically, it means the mechanic is removed from the real-world thing it's meant to represent and is now just a game mechanic, and they're no longer thinking in terms of how to represent things in the real world. They're thinking in terms of balancing a multiplayer game.
why doesn't it expand beyond 1821, is all I ask
If you want Civ 5 you should play Civ 5. Grand strat isn't like that, you can't just have a grand strat game from the beginning of time to the nuclear age, the systems would fall apart.
CK2 is better.
doesn't help that they have a legion of dicksucking super forum posters who get all their history from "extra history".
Because that's what Vicky 2 is.
3 is aged but had a much better direction and gameplay.
4 is playable, but shit.
I mean, you could run the entire game in 3 with a shitty ruler and do fine, in 4 you have to start murdering your shitty rulers and doing other garbage because mana deficiency fucks you over real hard.
>feel like playing some ww2
>hearts of iron 4 pretty cheap
>no idea what is going on, as always
>dude you got no troops lmao
>can't start a war with another country
>once you do they steamroll you
>no fun allowed
>one of the most played games on steam
Because that's a time frame in which industrialization, ideology, and nationalism start to become more important. Those are things that you need to represent in game, and EU4 just doesn't have the mechanics it needs.
If all you want is to add tanks and planes to EU4 you can mod the game yourself. Just extend the end date to 1950 and add new techs with tanks and stuff. But that isn't going to come anywhere close to actually representing what that time period was actually like, and that's pretty important in a grand strategy game.
What? Are you blaming the game for you being retarded?
What were you even doing? HoI4 can be pretty boring, but it is not difficult. Did you start as Yugoslavia and declare war on Italy or something?
Just do some pushups, you'll be fine.
What country were you playing as?
Meant as a response to
You can transfer your save from CK2 to EU4 which is 1200 years of history. Apparently there are some mods which link Victoria as well.
other guy here, i am getting steamrolled by soviets as poland. i restore commonwealth, give nazis what they want and then stalin sucker punches my ass
what do i do
You can actually go all the way from CK2 to EU4, Victoria 2, and finally HoI4. That's what a "grand campaign" is. It doesn't usually work all that well, especially if you just convert the saves and don't make any manual changes to fix things, but it can be done if you really want to.
Poland is a really advanced nation user, if you are new at the game you should practice with other countries first.
what would you recommend? i think i get economy and land/air stuff, but naval is too high iq for me
i mean what country is newbie friendly
Trying to survive as neutral Poland is pretty difficult. It's usually a better idea to ally yourself with either Germany or the Soviets. That does mean most of the work is going to be done by your ally, but as a new player that might be a good thing.
But as a beginner I'd probably go with Germany, Italy, or the Soviet Union first.
Germany is a pretty good beginner nation, if you want to practice the navy mechanics Italy is good too.
Spain with the recent changes is pretty fun too.
A good tip is that submarines are your friends.
Just draw a line towards the enemy capital and win the game. Easy.
>the exact same gameplay after the first 50 years
>literally impossible to succeed through building up your country's industry
>playing tall is more boring than fucking accounting
>ai still so stupid as to require insane cheaty gibs to stay competitive and not implode
>no real difference in difficulty between easiest and hardest, on harder difficulties it simply takes longer to front army that's big enough
>still trying to make seamen and naval play happen
>paradox's turbojewery when it comes to dlc and other business practices
>pathetic shilling in the launcher
All in all it's alright but rather boring after a few playthroughs.
I don't think I ever reached the last age, game just isn't any challenging after the first few decades if you know what you're doing.