They did absolutely fucking nothing to improve on Doom 4

Yes, you fucking idiot. DOOM Eternal is a detriment of DOOM 2016. Its not that your 50th run of 2016 with all the cheese strategies learned compared to your first blind playthrough of Eternal aren't the same thing. It isn't that you don't fully remember all the initial frustrations and bad moments you also had with 2016 and you are now having with Eternal. Saying that Eternal is a radical department and betrayal of 2016 after a single playthough, maybe even not even a full one, isn't a overreaction or questionable at all.

>Arena combat is still there just not as obvious as Doom 4 but its still very noticeable Arena>Walk>Arena>Walk
and the arenas are still horrible messes of bad level design

Why? Articulate on that. I want to see how clueless you are when level design is concerned.

>unironically
People who can't or don't use this word correctly shouldn't be allowed to post on Yas Forums.

nu-doom has bad music
people who disagree are probably plebs who unironically only listen to video game music

I'm told the games been cracked.

imagine complaining that the game makes you go fast

Only zoomers are bad at this game enough to cry on Yas Forums uncontrollably over and over like OP

Did you even read retard.
Its about the game making go slow and forcing use a shitty mechanic to go fast, and for a limited time.

>Dash is absolutely mandatory because everything moves faster than you.

What in the actual fuck is this? Are you so assbackwards into playing Eternal just as you play classic DOOM that you straight up refuse to use any new mechanic because you think you can taint your experience? Even though its pretty clear the game was build from scratch so that you must use these mechanics and you still act like thats a problem of the game? Jesus fucking Christ, just refund of swallow your game disk already. You are too mentally challenged to play and understand this game.

Imagine writing all of this bullshit and thinking it's going to change anyone's mind. Enjoy getting your asshole ripped and torn by Doomchad you fucking fag

This might be a sad medium effort bait but i'll have a nibble

>it works better without denuvo by a lot. (above 30fps increase in some cases)

Have you upgraded your machine since 2009?

>Its absolutely inefficient to actually kill demons by using guns because their stagger animation just soaks it up and makes them pretty much invulnerable until you either glory kill them, or stop staggering THEN actually die

This is just wrong.

Stay a contrarian if you really want. The game is fun as fuck and nothing you say can change that. Everyone has their own taste and yours is just shit.

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I'm having a fucking blast. The intensity of this game's combat on higher missions gives me a feeling of satisfaction that, when you actually get gud and succeed, surpasses that of Dark Souls 1 when that shit came out.

He is right though.
Posting your a shit opinion with a chad picture without nothing to back it up makes your post way less valid than his.

>>Game unironically refers to demons as "mortally challenged"
are you actually fucking retarded, did you even play the game?
of course you didn't, you're just parroting discordtranny shit.

higher difficulty*

>>Arena combat is still there just not as obvious as Doom 4 but its still very noticeable Arena>Walk>Arena>Walk
DMC and God Hand did this, but people call those the best games in their respective genre, and even though they're different genres doesn't mean that structure can't work in an FPS
>>Glory kills are now completely mandatory becuase of how low ammo or health
yes
>>Its absolutely inefficient to actually kill demons by using guns because their stagger animation just soaks it up and makes them pretty much invulnerable until you either glory kill them, or stop staggering THEN actually die. (they can still come back and attack you after the "glory kill stagger")
the first fucking mod for the first fucking gun you start with fires sticky bombs that oneshots all fodder enemies and bypasses their stagger completely
>>Weapons feel like shit and do fuck all damage.
It literally takes less rockets to kill Mancubi with in Eternal than in 16
>>Upgrades on top of upgrades on top of upgrades on top of upgrades. some completely negate the basic attack of the weaponbecause of how strong they are.
the shotgun and AR primary are weak because they are designed around triggering staggers for setting up Glory Kills, to actually kill shit with those weapons you use your mods

>Its the dark souls of shooters!
spoken like a fucking normie.

small brain

that's not what I said at all though, is it? I compared the feeling of satisfaction to Dark Souls, which is well known for making you feel fucking amazing when you finally beat that damn boss you were stuck on.

>game is too slow
>im forced to use dash
the fuck you want then?

Literally the second whatever report after the first mission says so, in a serious tone too.

They hated him because he spoke the truth.

A move speed that isn't molasses?

I thank the lord almighty for Yas Forums sometimes. You guys are so bad at vidya, it makes the average person feel good by default.

Only zoomers play FPS in the year of our Lord 2k20

Anyone have a magnet? I want to see if it's as bad as it really is.

>>Arena combat is still there just not as obvious as Doom 4 but its still very noticeable Arena>Walk>Arena>Walk
Not noticeable? Every single combat arena has a big icon on the map just in case you'd forgotten it was a combat arena. And now, instead of the environment being closed off by bars falling down, force fields being activated, etc, the way is blocked with magic or whatever.

Faster base movement speed and no stupid dash. This isn’t CoD I don’t want to sprint sometimes and walk sometimes, it’s doom you should go 110% all the time and being unable to run down demons is hilariously dumb

>>Game lets you straight up cheat and still progress.
This is a good thing.

>he can't go fast
OP shitter confirmed LOL

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>Needs yet another gimmick to go fast.
>wont work in any of the stages because you will get stuck on whatever dumb platform the game arena offers.

user, I know autistic people have trouble with discerning humor, but this is basic. It's sad I have to explain that it's a fucking joke. It isn't some pro SJW shit.

Cheats are only allowed in mission select, aka missions you already beat.
You didn't play the game.

Bethesda shit was not Doom 4. Doom is dead.

>bunny hopping is a gimmick
Imagine being this fucking stupid and uneducated on FPS games.

Its not a joke, retard.

>pressing spacebar
>gimmick
CONFIRMED RETARD LOL

All true, but game is still 6/10. I really preferred 2016, don't see why they had to fuck so much up compared to it, especially in regards to UI and a few other things that just stand out.
>Inb4 "you can mod the UI"
You can't remove the low ammo/health bars unless you fully disable the UI, and they're the most obnoxious parts of the UI. It's honestly puzzling how they didn't make it an option to remove those.
They're shills. They're here to push the game, and ruin the board in the process. I'd say ignore them, but it's literally impossible.

>Needs a meme hook upgrade to "bunny hop"

I can't believe I have to fucking explain this.
when a character says something ridiculous, that is your cue to realize, "oh the game is making a joke"

You realize that is satire, right?

The game was never gonna be praised here anyways. Yas Forums hates video games and it’s just getting depressing.

Well I wasnt fucking laughing. If they tried to make humor then they failed at it.

the level design sucks
the checkpoints before platforming sections suck
the slow movespeed sucks
the lack of ammo sucks
the game sucks

God I fucking hate you doompauling niggers. You're the same kind of retard that thinks Yas Forums actually hates every single game in existence, aren't you? That's just a fucking meme. If you actually visit threads you'll see people talking positively about games too. God damn it's annoying having people like you casually pass through here. Stay in your fucking hugbox if you can't deal with a little negativity, wherever the fuck you came from is likely full of nothing but dick sucking anyways.

You don't have to find it funny to realize that it's satire. You're just stupid.

don’t care about this game just wanted to say the schizOP same fag in this thread is hilarious. keep up the good work,

You stupid NIGGER. The original DOOM games had a fucking sprint option, does that make them more like CoD than Eternal then?

Typical symptom of autism, an inability to see things from another's point of view. Humor is subjective and therefore an autistic person can't grasp that other people have different standards of humor.

here's some non-meme criticism, playing on Nightmare if it matters
The ammo constraints are probably meant to make you think more about conserving it, but they don't because of the lack of options compared to 2016. In 2016, ammo wasn't incredibly scarce, but sometimes you'd run low and have to worry about it. In those circumstances, you had options: you could use your limited chainsaw to restore your ammo at the cost of losing its instakill ability for tough enemies. You could switch to your pistol or use melee and fight at a disadvantage until you could find more ammo, or you could disengage and search the environment for bullets. In Eternal, you have less ammo, but you also have only one option when you run low: use the infinite chainsaw to restore it. That's it. You have no pistol and your melee is so pathetically weak that it's not an option(I counted over 50 hits to kill a basic zombie on Nightmare), and searching the environment isn't worth your time because the ammo pickups are worth so little and enemies are so tanky. So, combat is a rotation of shoot until you run out, then find a small enemy to chainsaw. No thought. It's not more difficult.
Similarly, there's no reason for armour to be separate from health because it's no longer more difficult to obtain. Just press R before you kill something and it will refill both your armour and health. It's trivial to have full armour for every fight.
The weapons also just seem less distinct from each other. By making the Heavy Rifle and the Gauss cannon both projectiles instead of hitscan they've ended up being pretty similar to the Plasma Rifle and the Rocket Launcher, and no longer feel unique. They're just a different ammo pool to burn through.
And, while it's minor compared to gameplay, I feel like Doomguy worked better as a silent protagonist with very sparse backstory than he does now. Your mind could fill in the gaps before and that was more interesting than what's filling them now.

>upgrade
so you didn't even play the game? why the fuck are you posting LOL

None of the "Good"/allied systems use it, it's literally being portrayed as Demon-influenced propaganda in a way that should be upsetting.

>So, combat is a rotation of shoot until you run out, then find a small enemy to chainsaw.
And to make this possible they make it so that said enemies infinitely respawn until all the larger mobs are dead, thus eating up more ammo and time. I truly do not understand how some of their design decisions got approved.

>Game lets you straight up cheat and still progress
Yeah. I haven't seen anyone mention sentinel armor yet. Pic related
The equivocal golden tanooki suit is a weird inclusion. I get it, it's to stop bad players from getting stuck in a game with only auto-saving, but I still don't like it.

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nightmare sucked and ruined the flow of 2016 and it sucks and ruins the flow of eternal
stop playing on meme difficulties, they're meant to be played on ultra violence

THEN GO PLAY OG DOOM FAGGOT IT STILL EXISTS
KEKEKEKEKEKEKEK
>BUNNYHOPPING
GIMMICK
>NEW MECHANICS IN A NEW GAME
GIMMICK
KYS FAGGOT

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