HOLY FUCK why is this series so god damn cute and adorable?

Alright, never played an Atelier game. What is the best to start on PS4?

sophie or rorona
rorona has time limits but i found them pretty easy but that was after playing through the games without time limits so maybe i was just used to the game by then
i personally liked sophie more, it was very comfy

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Rorona.

I dislike the time limits in the Arland games not for their own sake but due to the obnoxious ending conditions needed to get all the endings giving you way too much shit to cram into a single playthrough without just downright following a guide, which I feel compelled to go for with my completionist autism. Having an ending which requires you to have the conditions checked for every single other ending simultaneously was a terrible idea since you can't even go through them bit by bit on multiple playthroughs. I feel like there should be some better ng+ stuff too.

i agree, especially rorona has some bizarre triggers

SOMEONE SHARE THE CE TABLE PLEASE this game isn't worth playing without those titties.

WORST ATELIER

>combat shit
>characters shit (sans ryza)
>story shit
>alchemy system kind of shit

How did they do it? Why do they have to change everything every time?

Yeah, you should just accept you're meant to do the best ending on a second playthrough and with a guide. Meruru actually locks it until NG+ anyway.

I feel Ayesha did it right although one of the requirements is sort of bullshit. Nothing on Arland's level though.

why does it seem like totori gets some of the most talk when it's easily the worst of the modern ateliers

Why is this allowed? This is why people pirate.

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I am enjoying it. At least it can only get better if i continue to play other games in the series.

Most of those are the actual game though, and L&S is the only one with bad dlc

I feel like a good amount of people picked it as their first Atelier because others recommend to start with it instead of Rorona like the retards they are.

rorona's pretty good though
i can't think of a single good thing about totori that you couldn't get just from playing meruru

Ayyyyy, anyone know a good source to aquire Sophie PC version?

>atelier totori
Every single time I hear that I think of the pasta and every single time I grin like a retard

Totori is cuter?

Totori is in meruru though

>i can't think of a single good thing about totori that you couldn't get just from playing meruru
The tentacles scene?

>rorona's pretty good though
I wasn't arguing that. I was saying people who recommend to start with Totori over Rorona are stupid.

>i can't think of a single good thing about totori that you couldn't get just from playing meruru
Personally I think Totori has a much better and more involved story even though the pacing is whack, and it also feels more like an adventure. Meruru has much, much better gameplay though and a much higher density of events. I feel like Ayesha took the best aspects from both games with a ton of events and things to do but also a good plot and the feel of an adventure.

>and more involved
I guess that falls under the admittedly absurd pacing but GOD does it have abyssmal pacing

why are ayesha's super bosses so hard? How do I stop taking dragon master's master dragon dicking? I already know about not using forbidden capsules.

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PC fags don’t deserve this series

I like the start of the game, Totori's family situation outright caught me off guard after Rorona was all sunshine and rainbows. After that it's a bunch of nothing for the next two years, but I think once the quest to build the boat begins in year three, the pacing picks up and is done well until the end of the story. A mixed bag for sure, but I can see what they were going for.

You didn't play Lydie and Suelle? By far the best versions of Sophie and Firis are there. I almost cried when Sophie appeared, even if her appearance was predictable as hell.

as relatively generic as it is I like how all the main girls become effectively demigods
Sophie's in particular as her thing to finally fix plachta finishes.
Firis going from obnoxious to at least a somewhat cute shonen character was good too, and the witch's teatime ending for meruru is the best one by far

Firis is broken.

>Ayesha didn't appear in Escha & Logy nor in Shallie until the Plus version when she was explicitly involved in the setting's main conflict since the end of her game
What the fuck were they thinking? I'm glad I only played Dusk with the DX trilogy or I would've been livid.

The power of M E A T
Someone post firis the god slayer

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i meant the webm where she shits on the super bosses

*hijacks your trilogy*

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thanks

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WTF user, i thought Ayesha was pure. I can't believe she's such a loose girl.

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She really does, but it's worth it because she's a total semen demon in Shallie with those wings.

I can't complain, it might be because I like her but I feel like it's one of the few times where a side character gradually hijacking a series is done decently. Though the way her quest to make pacts with the elemental spirits balloons in importance in Shallie does feel a little weird with how important the Water Spirit turns out to be to the lore of the world of Dusk compared to the previous two who where just sort of there.

ehehe

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I mean, who doesn't?

how many times is sterk going to fuck rorona on that boat
he's waited for 21 years he must have the bluest balls imaginable

Is Ryza actually a good character or is she only good for the thicc meme

yes

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it's unironically one of the least sexual games in the series

She's okay, a little generic but it works for the setting. She and her friends have lived all their lives stuck on a boring island and they want to go out to the mainland and explore. They get in over their head but grow up through the experience, pull through and end up accomplishing great things. Ryza herself is the stubborn one of the group who will drag the others along even when it's sort of reckless, but she takes advice to heart.

Ayesha is best Atelier game but not girl.

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is firis cute today?

She's cute and hot every day.

>HOLY FUCK why is this series so god damn cute and adorable?

>Also Ayesha is best Atelier girl and anyone who disagrees is a F A G

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L&S ruined her

only after her shonen awakening
still think that how she uses the bow is one of the cuter things in the series

L&S saved her, she was one of the most unlikeable characters I've seen in her own game

Shallotte has great taste.

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Are you gay?

How, exactly? She was a cute, naive but good natured girl learning about the world after a lifetime of being sheltered. L&S turned her into a into a muscle-brained idiot.

smol Firis > tall Firis
Her design was worse in L&S too