REALISTIC DINOSAUR GAMES WHEN?

They don't all have to be Jurassic World ripoffs

>BAAAAAW WHY DOES IT HAVE FLIGHT FEATHERS????
Google it retard before you start typing uneducated faggotry. Velociraptors have flight feathers just like they have bones, fossilized. Nothing to argue about.

Games should stop denying real science

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smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/t-rex-skin-was-not-covered-feathers-study-says-180963603/
science.sciencemag.org/content/317/5845/1721
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_feather
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Based

What is this called anyways?

Amazing Dinoworld.

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They didn't have flight feathers. And not every dinosaur had feathers either.

How's Jurassic Park going to explain this shit.

Literally the fossil evidence that confirmed feathers on velociraptor was flight feathers.
scientificamerican.com/article/new-fossil-reveals-velociraptor-sported-feathers/

There is not a single source on planet earth that will argue other wise, you are denying fossils outright. you might just say "Velociraptor did not have bones!" retarded fuck.

You do realize you're talking about an animal that branched off from the immediate common ancestor of birds millions of years AFTER birds evolved?

>And not every dinosaur had feathers either.
NOOOO YOU CAN'T DENY ACTUAL """""EVIDENCE""""" ABOUT THE HECKIN CUTE AND FEATHERY BOIS. NOT THE GOOD CHICKENIRNOS. NOT MY SWEET BUCKIN' AND CLUCKIN' BIRDY BIRDS JURASSIC PARK WASN'T ALL THAT GOOD

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I told you to google it dumbass. You clearly didn't
The only way to salvage that pov is to be a creationist. This is straight up saying the opposite of objective observable fact (FEATHERS INSIDE THE FUCKING FOSSILS)

Large dinosaurs did not have feathers.

>realistic
>dinosaurs

smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/t-rex-skin-was-not-covered-feathers-study-says-180963603/
So you got something to say now?

No one in this thread said that all dinosaurs had feathers, just that velociraptor had flight feathers, which isn't up for debate and has not been up for debate for the past decade.

In 2007 the base quills for flight feather primaries were found along velociraptor's arm, meaning that raptors had far more advanced plumage than could ever be predicted.
This is literally the find where "Velociraptor has feathers" came from, fucking flight feathers immediately visible on the arms with the fossils. You could literally just deny that the sun exists

I was talking about VELOCIRAPTOR, not rex.
There is no evidence of feathers on tyrannosaurus and there never has been.
But denying "flight feathers" (primaries) on velociraptor is literal retardation

Did you even read that article or just look at the headlines? Nowhere in that article does it say velociraptor had flight feathers. In fact, it says the feathers it did have were thin and hairlike. The opposite of flight feathers.

Zhenyuanlong
The article is describing the downy fur-like feathering on the rest of the body of a close relative of Velociraptor, Zhenyuanlong

The FIRST feathers ever found on velociraptors were flight feathers. The current assumption for this is that velociraptor had a gliding ancestor or that "flight feathers" simply had another purpose before they were used for flying. There is no consensus on the why, but the presence of those feathers is not up for denial

The fossil in the article itself literally has flight feathers, it's not even velociraptor but a cousin.

Not all of them had feathers though

So, not velociraptor.

There will never be a game with realistic dinosaurs because realistic dinosaurs have no mainstream appeal. You can argue about being true to science and fossil data all you want, but the moment paleontologists started memeing that EVERY dinosaur had feathers and looked like big birds and giant chickens was the moment that the mystic and appeal of dinosaurs died for the world at large. When the news broke out and everyone started posting art of velociraptor chickens and big fluffy t.rexes, nobody wanted anything to do with "real" dinosaurs anymore. Everyone grew up on the idea that dinosaurs were huge, scary bad-ass lizards and science couldn't resist on ruining that and pushing the idea that they were just big dodo looking dumbasses. It's why what little dinosaur media we get these days try and minimize the feathers, because otherwise nobody will buy it. Jurassic World tried to circumvent this by saying their dinosaurs are based more on fantasy, too bad the movies forgot to be good. But, people still complained about muh feathers and just about everyone in entertainment industry just don't want to bother because feathered dinosaurs are fucking dumb and audiences, outside of a few autists that nobody listens to, tend to agree. So no more dinosaurs.

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Also Velociraptors are tiny, most "raptors" in vidya are more similar to a Deinonychus

I agree though we need more dinosaur vidya. But I think it's too toxic and male fantasy unless the T-Rexes can be trans

Velociraptor is younger than birds by tens of million years and is an immediate offshoot of archaopteryx, an animal with wings nearly identical to modern birds save for the visible arm claws, like a Hoatzin
science.sciencemag.org/content/317/5845/1721
In 2007 Velociraptor was discovered to posses giant quill knobs identical to the primaries found in modern birds, these quill knobs would remain consistent with other feathered dinosaur finds.

Eventually the cousin of Velociraptor would be found to possess furry down as well as fully present flight feathers.
Velociraptor is NOT a primitive animal, if anything it is considerably less primitive than birds themselves, who already appeared tens of millions of years before velociraptor.

Except every dinosaur didn't. Only small ones like Velociraptor had feathers, and they were furlike at that. Archaeopteryx is the first dinosaur that could be considered a bird.

>Except every dinosaur didn't.
It's too late. The damage is done.

Deinonychus would have been feathered too, you are aware of that right? The entire clade of maniraptora is now understood to have been feathered by default with raptors specifically being the most obvious cases. They possess the quill knobs necessary to support fan or leaflike feathers along the arms.

The only maniraptors up for debate are the therizinosaurs and large oviraptorans, animals who might simply just be far too large to properly develop feathers.

Lastly DEINONYCHUS IS NOT BIG, THIS IS A MEME
The largest deinonychus fossils are about three feet in height, the common five-foot claim comes from film geeks who don't actually do much research and wish to coin an excuse for Jurassic Park (Jurassic Park is a fine film and does not need excuses!)

Hmm, I think I misunderstood what you meant by flight feathers, and took that to mean they could fly.

>They didn't have flight feathers.
Uneducated fucks who think birds developed flight feathers AFTER they were already flying.
Birds popped up in the middle of the jurassic, which is why so many cretaceous era dinosaurs pop up with fully developed feathers, their ancestors, who were on the way to becoming birds, already had them.

>Deinonychus
the ones from Jurassic Park and Dino Crisis are larger, they're an intermediate size between Deinonychus and Dakotaraptor

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>flight feathers
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_feather
I didn't misunderstand a single fucking thing

Kek why does everyone assume archeopteryx and similarly advanced dinosaurs are from the end of the cretaceous? It was from the center of the jurassic, the center of the "age of dinosaurs"
Some people are just too stupid.

user meant HE misunderstood ya bully

>start taking paleo classes like intro to taphonomy and historical geology
>dinosaurs slowly start becoming less cool
h-haha

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Nah, dinosaurs are just lame and for fags so I don't really pay attention to them.
Behold the pinnacle of chad paleontology. Dinofags can't compete with the might and beauty of Cambrian era invertebrates.

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What I find personally interesting about dinosaurs is how people react to them. People are really passionate about dinosaurs.
It's not like other sciences, when something gets discovered about dinosaurs, not even theoretical, I mean actually discovered, you get people denying it as fantasy.

Like Velociraptor feathers in this thread. People actively deny an objective reality with physical evidence literally set in stone, usually because it conflicts with their nostalgia.
It's amazing really. I don't understand why this happens! Who needs velociraptor to be a scaly reptile creature in REAL LIFE in order to enjoy Jurassic Park? It's a good movie already!

this asshole completely ruined jurassic world as a franchise

Not based. It's fucking shit and sucks dick and you're an actual retard for thinking animals move like that.

>uses soijak to defend his muh popculture 90's kid JP nostalgia fetish
We're breaking new barriers regarding cringe concentration here, folks.

shit tier bait kys

Anyways as for realistic dinosaur games your options are limited to just prehistoric kingdom and saurian. Anything else is just wanna be Collin Trevorrow kike-shit, fantasy cartoon garbage, made by pathetic idiots who want to relive their shitty childhoods.

Now problem is PK is a park simulator that hasn't been released yet and won't be out for a good while, but there's a decent free demo of it you can get on steam. Saurian on the other hand is out on EA and is more of what I think you're looking for, problem is gamepaly wise it's a bit of a walking simulator and progress is painfully slow.

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Do you think the finished product of Saurian will be any good?

Maybe. I think it depends on how well they buff up the combat and if they'll ever get around to adding multiplayer. Those two things + the peak aesthetics they already have would make for a decent final product.

In that case I am really interested and hope they achieve Saurian.
Skimming through some of the project goals has proven pretty interesting. This isn't any dinosaur project, they actually use the latest studies and research

>duuuur I want muh prehistoric pokehman!!! gib me muh setgosawoo tew destory de evil meatysaurus to make the good vegiesarwus happy

>muh asspull middle ground
Stop pretending to be a scientist while being a blithering retard.

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I mean I've always been interested in dinosaurs since I was a kid but now that I'm actually learning about them the endless biostrata and cladistics makes it significantly more boring

Outta my way cambrian fucking shit!

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Oh yeah they're pretty good. They definately do their homework which is appreciated in a world where everyone's an unoriginal degenerate nostalgia loser.

>Only small ones like Velociraptor had feathers,
Yutyrannus?
Why does everyone forget that we already discovered a Tyrannosaurian dinosaur that beats that argument into submission?

Do people really come into threads like these thinking that they will prove feathered dinosaurs wrong?
Do they come in here and not even bother skimming a wiki article or anything? Not even looking at an image of a fossil? No the tiniest amount of study? They just start spewing retarded shit in the hopes it defends their nostalgia?

>early proceratosaurid tyrannosauroid off-shoot
fify
Most are definately just baiting, but you can tell some of them are geniune normal nigger idiots.

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Gay furries even took our dinosaurs

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That's not realistic at all, dinosaurs didn't move like Sumo fighters

>Only small ones like Velociraptor had feathers, and they were furlike at that
No

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PISS OFF CARLOS ALBERQUERQUE

Why are normies so fixated on this fucking chink produced garbage? This has to be the most overated documentary ever. Better shit has come out before it. I mean, I know it's because faggots watch tierzoo, but godamn do they not see how gay they are?

Velociraptor had feathers no different from a modern bird.
source: The literal first discovery of feathers on velociraptors

Large dinosaurs were feathered as well, THOSE were the ones with hairlike feathers.

Source: Yutyrannus
Please read a book written in the last thirty fucking years

youtube.com/watch?v=lHf9MJKBzEA&feature=youtu.be

Never forget that this is Jack Horner's ideal tyrannosaurus.

Oh damn that's some good shit

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Realism can be neat but it's much harder to get right than stylization. You're committing to a much higher level of scrutiny when you give yourself something to be directly compared against rather than aiming for an imaginary idealized form, and any flaws are going to be much more apparent because of how used to realistic natural forms people are, making anything that deviates stand out.

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>t. rex was a scavenger guys
Fucking kek he's still at it, the absolute madman.

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>dinosaurs
>real
you're a funny guy.

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>stylization.
Bullshit
Nobody "stylizes" dinosaurs, they just mimic Jurassic Park and pretend that's creativity

This isn't realistic, there's no evidence for flight feathers on velociraptor specifically.
Also unrealistic, we have no evidence for feathers on tyrannosaurs (not tyrannosauroids) and we know for a fact that they didn't have feathers on the neck, hip, or tail (scale impressions).
Ditto here, made even worse by the eye-bleedingly neon red and the pure-scavenger idea. Reminder that Jack Horner is a fucking creep who married a 19 year old student while he was in his 60s.

>This isn't realistic, there's no evidence for flight feathers on velociraptor specifically.
retard

Reminder that Jack Horner is a fucking creep who married a 19 year old student while he was in his 60s.
based

JP isn't stylized?
Raptors looking like predatory parrots isn't stylized?
Nobody does dinosaurs at all any more except a couple cheap attempts at cashing in on JP or whatever the current "We're finally going to make an actual realistic dinosaur game!" kickstarter project is so it's not like there's many examples.

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JP is stylized
JP
I repeat JURASSIC PARK is stylized
EVERYTHING ELSE? No, they just copy Jurassic Park with no creativity. Jurassic Park ITSELF is PEAK creature design

>here's no evidence for flight feathers on velociraptor specifically.
>What is the year 2007
If that doesn't ring a bell to you you are practically pretending to know a damn thing about dinosaurs.

This is actually by young earth creationists. They lost the argument about dinosaurs existing so instead they're trying to ruin them so nobody cares.

>Jurassic Park ITSELF is PEAK creature design

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SHUT THE HELL UP YOU FREAKIN GOOSE

DINOSAURS NEVER HAD FEATHERS

ITS A MYTH

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>This isn't realistic, there's no evidence for flight feathers on velociraptor specifically.
Tell me you're a young earth creationist right now and I'll lay off.

Do other people copying JP suddenly become realistic?
Stylization has nothing to do with originality.

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T-Rex was not a giant turkey. All skin impressions we have of T-Rex does not suggest it had feathers. It doesn't even make any sense, a T-Rex is huge and lived in a tropical region, why would it need feathers? It would die from heat exhaustion because larger animals retain heat far more easily than smaller animals.

Maybe it had some feathers (like hair on an elephant) or it had more as a baby but a fully-grown T-Rex having feathers makes no sense.

>Topic image is velociraptor, a dinosaur with absolute proof of birdlike feathering
>Anons run in here to talk about T-rex