Jesus christ doom eternal is probably my biggest gaming disappointment in many years.. I was one of the people who actually liked doom 2016, and eternal is just not the same game in almost any way.
One big difference is the general tone of the game. Doom is and never was a super serious game, but it at least seemed like it respected itself somewhat. Doom eternal turned up the "video-gamey” aspect that 2016 was praised for a fuck ton. BUT NOT THE GOOD PARTS. The biggest offender here it the fact that while ramping up the arcadey and corny side of things, they for some reason try to shove in some grand story into the game with ton of cutscenes, And it actually tries to take itself seriously, constantly interrupting the flow of the gameplay.
This story trying to take itself seriously really REALLY does not work when the rest of the game is so god damn arcadey. Floating glowing question marks and weapons instead of detailed 3d models like doom 2016 (yes it works if the game is not trying to take itself so seriously with the story!), 1-UPS, insanely lame platforming segments, monkey bar swinging, as well as some of the most forced climbing sections ive ever seen in a video game (why is it there? it's not fun, it really adds nothing to the game but make it less focused).
It has an insane abundance of corny references and "meme" dialogue that just doesn't work with this game, (this isn't duke nukem or borderlands, why does it need to become like those games to be successful?). Doomguy even has a fucking Gamer PC setup for fucks sake!
The second biggest problem with the game is the absolute truckload of tutorials. Every little pick up, mechanic, weapon, attachment, enemy and even enemy weakness has a goddamn tutorial (and not in a tasteful appealing way either, some of them even teleport you to an asset-less training room forcing you to test the mechanic). Many will argue “just turn them off!” but tutorials can be an essential tool for the enjoyment of a game on the first playthrough, the problem here is the overabundance of them, aswell as the dogshit implementation. Tutorials should be implemented into the game seamlessly, it should be hard to spot if what i'm doing is actually a tutorial. (in my opinion anyway, but i'm sure most would agree with this)
One of doom 2016s strengths for a modern AAA shooter was it's incredibly minimal storytelling and straight to the point action (with minimal tutorials!). You just killed demons. With a good soundtrack and some decent hellish setpieces. Doom eternal just doesn't flow in the same way. It tries to throw in so much useless shit just to make a “bigger” game than its predecessor, when the fact that doom 2016 was such a focused experience is what made it fun.
Brody Parker
The only positive thing I can say about this game is some that its satisfying seeing pieces of demons flying of them when shooting them, as well as some (very brief) moments of adrenaline action similar to the 2016 game. Sadly this is constantly interrupted by the constant lack of ammo. The starting shotgun has 16 (16!) bullets capacity! And you also DO NOT deal damage with normal melee any more so you have to waste your ammo on basic fodder enemies.. (the pistol is completely gone as well). I get what the devs were trying to do here, to force you to use every weapon. but it ends up just being a lot less fun compared to its predecessor unless you play EXACTLY as the devs intended.
I never write stuff like as you can probably tell and it ended up being a wall of text, but I was just so god damn disappointed with this game..
wow a lot of people really have played a lot of a game that just came out hours ago.
is this some kind of anti shill campaign? who is funding this crap? First this game gets a MASSIVE shill campaign, and now it looks like it has a raid on Yas Forums against it. regardless, stfu op. igaf about your opinions on a game you've played for 3 hours at most.
Liam Myers
I beat the game in 13 hours.. Its not a long game
Logan Bell
>op makes a genuine effort to discuss a newly released game >gets ignored >meanwhile offtopic, coomer and threads being spammed daily get bumped and mods dont delete them never change, Yas Forums
Robert Ward
There's been one guy desperately trying to tortanic it for months. It's release day, this is his big day, he'll be online all day making new tl;dr posts with the same writing style. Within the week he'll probably move on to something else, maybe Cyberpunk.
Samuel Cruz
I agree with most of the OPs points but I"m still having a lot of fun. Hopefully they'll tone down the campiness in the next one. Doom 2016 was great, the doom guy seemed a lot more bad ass when the world wasn't so cartoonish and seemed more realistic.
Im glad you you agree with some of it. I wouldnt have finished the game if there wasnt some enjoyment there, but overall im just sad.. It was probably my most anticipated game in the last 5 years..
Jaxson Myers
This. It's probably the same dude who tries to tortanic DMCV.
Adam Walker
Did not read
DOOM Eternal is not the next Tortanic
Kill yourself
Andrew Jenkins
If you liked 2016 there is a chance that you will not like this one, as i said. Pirate it or wait for the inevitable huge price cuts in a few months. (doom 2016 dropped in price super fast) DO NOT be an idiot and pay full price like me.
Jaxson Anderson
??? What the hell are you talking about? I can swear on everything that whoever that is its not me.
Charles Bell
thanks user, i think i'm going to wait the bing bing wahoo part turns me off
It will not in the slightest. Most likely it will be a huge success. I am certain it will dissapoint many fans of the 2016 version though.. I cant be the only one who feel this way
DMC5 has the opposite issue where some Russian autist will ignore every bit of valid criticism and invades every action game thread to start shit.
Landon Reed
I played on Ultra-Violence. Would have played Nightmare or Ultra-Nightmare on many predicted many playthroughs of the game. Sadly it probably wont happen anymore..
Kevin Thompson
No it isn't, the fact that there's no more gore nest shit is already a massive improvement. Plus. this one actually offers some challenge.
Ian Carter
Ok sucks at games and cant explain himself. Arm chair bullshit statements.
Hunter Lopez
>is this some kind of anti shill campaign It’s a regular shill campaign
Charles Hughes
Rspectufully disagree. Gore nests was not that great of a system (doom 2016 has many flaws in fact, i still really like it though) But id take gore nests any day over the absolutey abysmal climing and platforming sections that this game has. This game is not very hard either, it just forces you to play they way the devs want for it to be an bearable experience. 2016 could be abused easier than eternal, but IMO he greater flexibility in playstyles made it more fun.
Gavin Brooks
Settle down OP
William Cooper
What's wrong with Gore Nest?
Luke Mitchell
What playstyle? You shoot monsters, that's it.
Carson Kelly
Okay, not exactly an abundance of playstyles. I just preferred more freedom in choosing my weapon. Doing anything but the intended in eternal just turns it almost unplayable. HAVING to use the chainsaw once every 10 seconds instead of when i wanted to also wasnt something I enjoyed. I can see people who are not bothered by these changes though, and also the shooting is still quite good in this game, I wouldnt have finished it otherwise, its the other things that really soured me on it.
Daniel Ward
Why do people here that might have legitimate complaints on something always feel the need to go "WOOW WHAT A FUCKING PIECE OF TRASH BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT OF THE YEAR" The game is clearly good, the game clearly also has flaws. By acting like these flaws make it the next Tortanic only makes people ignore your complaints
Oliver Williams
I'm not sure what's worse. Brainlet contrarians like you who would throw yourself off a cliff if somebody told you that cliff leaping sucked ass or the constant Yas Forums faggotry that seems to pop up everywhere lately.
You didn't play the game at all and are just wasting space in order to try for mass (you) collecting.
Jace Phillips
the whole game is a massive massive dicksucking to the "old" doom fans to the points its extremely cringe i have no problems with a couple of original DooM eater eggs but waht the fuck is this?
these outoftouch boomers should fucking stop already yes Hugo you faggot
there's a very large overlap between contrarians and Yas Forumstards
Gabriel Cox
>HAVING to use the chainsaw once every 10 seconds That's just at the beginning, when you have little ammo.
Brody Richardson
AHHHH, DON'T SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT THE NEW BETHESDA GAME. STOP STOP STOP GO AWAY SHILL AHHHH
Thomas King
Wow, a game panders to the people who play it? They really should have made Doomguy a strong and independant black woman instead, right, millennial?
Or better yet, how about we make every line of dialogue a self aware ultra sarcastic quip like in your beloved Marvel movies?
Alexander Murphy
kys
Charles Rodriguez
Im just saying what i thought about this game, and most will probanbly not care abou these things as much as me. Its really polished, it runs well and has some (rare) moments of adrenaline pumping brilliance. It will probably also be recieved positively by "most" players over the course of its life. Though im certain many will also dislike it. I personally just REALLY hated some parts of it though, which is why it dissapointed me so much.
Angel Anderson
>the people who play it Doom boomers hated 2016 Doom and hate Eternal. And yet ID decided to pander to them with all those wacky collectibles and floating squeaky guns that you just randomly get. Thought the scene with the UAC troopers was cool in the preview demo? Well too bad faggot, in the actual game you just get it because it floats off the ground in a completely random area because Doom Boomers complained about a single cutscene.
>floating squeaky guns that you just randomly get. Yeah, it's too videogamey, this needs to be serious and gritty. Let me guess, you were hyped for the original Doom 4, that Call of Doom shit. youtube.com/watch?v=kFWRkj0UQKM
Colton Harris
Doom eternal is as close as ID could have possibly made a doom game into "le ebin marvel movie" Thats a big part of the reason why i disliked it.
Aaron Parker
nice projection nigger
Connor Flores
How, exactly, when Marvel movies are worthless millennial-pandering garbage filled with SJW propaganda?
Charles Garcia
>Doom boomers hated 2016 Doom and hate Eternal. The 2016 Doom was a success, so of course they continue that line.
Owen Collins
I dont think these are nitpicks. If the gameplay was truly good enough not make anything else about doom not matter then sure, maybe. But the whole presententation of this game is just so god damn laughable it makes the rest of the game suffer greatly as a result.
Christopher Bell
>lately confirmed newfag
Easton Hernandez
>I was one of the people who actually liked doom 2016 Everyone liked Doom 2016 you contrarian faggot.
Caleb Brown
Play doom eternal. I promise you it could not be more reddit pandering if it tried. Sure maybe not SJW pandering. but the game really seems like it was entierly made up in some focus groups asshole.
Easton Morales
Not here on Yas Forums. Im also one of the unlikely boomers who enjoyed both the classics and 2016. So i really had high hopes for this one
Dylan Richardson
Tl;dr: I’m a retard that cares about story in my baby toys.
Xavier Barnes
The guy in this thread is just a schizo who has been whining about Doom Eternal for more than a month now. You can even spot him because of how similar his way of speaking and rhetoric is.
Justin Rodriguez
look at where you are user
James Campbell
I care if it makes the game worse, on top of the myriad of other problems this game has. The gameplay is not good enough to carry a presentation that is this bad
Carson Martin
I'm playing it. And no, I didn't say reddit pandering, I said millennial pandering, you know, that generation of autistic manchild subhumans who unironically watch Marvel movies.
>Sure maybe not SJW pandering And that's enough.
>the game really seems like it was entierly made up in some focus groups asshole Because it follows the same tone of the last game, which was a success? Should they have done the complete opposite to SUBVERT EXPECTATIONS like you millennials love?
Logan James
Please explain this to me. Show me some other posts that you claim type exactly like me, this is the first actual post i made on this game
Connor Cruz
It does not follow the same tone of the last game.. I really dont understand how you can think that if you played both of them
Reddit and millenial pandering are not far apart
Henry Flores
How is it not?
Brayden Williams
People who claim it's one guy are very new, and don't realize there are millions of unique IPs coming to Yas Forums every single month.
People not liking something want to talk about it should hardly surprise anyone. Even a 99% liked game would still have ten thousand people bitching if it sold one million copies.
