Stop buying anti consumer machines. The companies, sony more than anyone...

Stop buying anti consumer machines. The companies, sony more than anyone, treat videogames as completely disposable trash toys that should be bought for thousands and thousands of euros over years only so you can bin the "bad old shit" and get their latest toy with the latest flashy movies with none of that redundant old shit. They dont respect the art, they dont respect the medium, they dont respect your time and money

Invest into a good PC and never stop doing it. Even mostly old school console developers like kojima desperately want to put all their games on PC because they absolutely loathe the anti consumer consoles. They hate the idea that their creation is just a shitty toy product with an expiration date once the next anti consumer box comes out. PC is eternal, its a platform where your media will never be redundant. Good online retailers like GOG are even trying hard to fix shittier ports of old games so that they work out of the box for all new machines.

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I have already stopped buying digital games on my PS4 now that I can't be sure if they will be BC. I will not be keeping my PS4 forever because I hate using it and I may never buy a PS5 because it doesn't sound very good at all.

I bought a ps4 first this gen and wasn't going to buy an xbox but was gifted one and am now ending the gen buying everything on xbox with my ps4 boxed up.

Good thread. They don't care customers not a little bit. Sony deserve bankrupt. I was a sonyfag until this announcement. Time to switch Xbox.
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I stopped buying consoles after I was lied to about FF Versus coming out for the PS3. It's not a big deal, but it did implicitly kill any sense of quality-control I -thought- occurred with console manufacturers. I might put the dosh towards a 3080 Ti when it falls in price but until then, I am more than good with my PC.

I will never again buy a console.

>tfw bought an Xbox One despite it being ultra shitty (at least at the start of the gen) because friends wanted to play Cawadooty and my PC isn't gud enough for it

Game Pass is baller tho so I ain't mad. Loading times suck tho

People are brainwashed to the point they start defending big corporations.

I foolishly bought a PS3 after The Last Guardian went up for preorder at retailers.
Then just a month later or whatever it was all those preorders were cancelled/recalled and the game disappeared from the media until it resurfaced as a fucking PS4 exclusive.

>youtube.com/watch?v=oaghkSHITFo
This is your average Sønygger.

The FUCK are you talking about

Valve is far greedier with the way they handle game distribution than Sony
On a PS4 you can literally play all of your friends' libraries even at the same time, even together with them. Steam doesn't allow you to do this. This means on a PS4 you literally don't have to buy a game if your friends already has it, even if you want to play together with them.

>Sony doesn't respect video games
Sony actually invests shittons of money into game development, literally billions. What did Valve invest? They developed a cheap, shitty cashgrab card game and a single fucking VR title in 8 fucking years. Meanwhile Sony developed and funded dozens upon dozens of titles ranging from indies to 100+million$ AAA titles.

Sony even managed to push out games stuck in notorious development hells like The Last Guardian, instead of cancelling them like MS did with most of their games in similar states.

I swear, you Valvefaggots are the most delusional bunch I've ever seen on this board. Like you are not even shitposting, but dead seriously believe in the shit you write

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>muh volvo
Keep seething goy

>PC
>Not anti-consumer

Read some fucking Stallman

Xbox is better than PS in almost every aspect. The only reason I don't have one is because I play on PC.

>Xbox is better than PS in almost every aspect
except it's weaker
and has far less games
and the games it has are far weaker too
and has a much smaller playerbase
and you have to pay even to play f2p games on it

like it's worse in everything that actually matters

Series X literally has more games from start. Series X has BC for all Xone games and beyond for selected titles.
PS5 has BC with just 100 games which is FIFA 2015,2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, Fortnite, COD, R6, GTA V shit. Sony lost this gen even before start. Get fucked sony.

You cannot argue with the Snoy. They are not people.

Last MS console has more power, more game, full backwards compatibility, cheaper games, better online service, better service in general and Game pass shits all over PS now/plus.

I'm not even the target audience of Xbox, prefering Sony since they tend to have more weeb games, but those are all facts.

Outside Bloodborne there's no reason to buy a PS4 unless you just love gay ass movie games.

I like consoles because I like physical editions. Not having physical anymore kills PC as a main platform for me.

>moving goalpost to series X
the post (You) replied to was literally talking about the xbone you tard

>Series X has BC for all Xone games
>PS5 has BC with just 100 games
literally none of these are actually confirmed, but even if the ps5 only had access to it's first party titles at launch that would be still a more solid library than what the SX would have with it's whole xbone library

Should I buy a Switch OP?

Outside of your trash country (NA) no one cares about xbox. If people have a console it's a PlayStation.

>North America
>Country

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>I might put the dosh towards a 3080 Ti when it falls in price
either buy it day 1 or you'll be waiting until the 4000 series comes out for the price to drop

>On a PS4 you can literally play all of your friends' libraries even at the same time, even together with them. Steam doesn't allow you to do this. This means on a PS4 you literally don't have to buy a game if your friends already has it, even if you want to play together with them.

when the fuck did this happen? because when I was playing on ps4 there was no such system

>Stop buying anti consumer machines.
so...why are they anti consumer?

censorship

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Next Gen Ray Tracing!

from the start? I don't remember this ever not being a thing on ps4. This is the whole reason all of my friends have a ps4 despite us living in a poorfag country,

you just log in with your friend's account and set it as the main acc of your system and you get access to all of their stuff, even the dlcs. They can still use their own accounts and stuff freely, meaning you can even play their games together with them online. They can also do this to your stuff. You can also share ps+ like this.

oh so you have to trust them with your password?
seems pretty sketchy

I haven't purchased a Sony console since the PS2 and I only bought that because they had such a large percentage of the market at the time. Been Sony-free ever since and lovin' it.

if that's an issue for you then they can just come over and type in the password themselves once. The account will be added to your system forever and you can freely switch between them after you log in for the first time but it will never display the password

but yeah, this is the point of friend/family sharing, you are not supposed to do this with literal randos on the internet

>you just have to abuse the system
Yeah PC has that too: we call it piracy.
Oh and Steam has family-sharing too which works essentially the exact same way.

Phil needs to step it up and get anime JRPGs on the Xbox.
I know Xbox is the target for the extreme casual gamer (sports games, shooters), but still man. I don't wanna buy a PS4. I don't like it's design, the controller, the online, the UI.

Oh I'm in no hurry. I got a 1080 Ti on Black Friday a year or so after it came out and it still does well. I don't mind keeping it for another 5ish years.

did any other cases of censorship actually happened since that time like a year ago when they censored that 5 or so visual novels?

everytime I saw a "new sony censorhship case" like this spammed on Yas Forums it turns out to be fake bullshit. Like the recent Trials of Mana threads trying to pretend that sony censored it because on a ps4 pic a loincloth was longer than on a Switch pic. It turned out that the clothing was just glitchy and changed length during animations, and it acts the same on the switch too.

>Yeah PC has that too: we call it piracy.
yeah, it's sure fun pirating MHW and playing it together with your friends
or the Niohs or Tekken/SF/any fg, or Dark Souls3, Bloodborne, any FPS or pretty much 90% of the games out there
oh wait, you can't actually do that
meanwhile you also don't support game development in any way tho I'm sure that doesn't bother you much

>Oh and Steam has family-sharing too which works essentially the exact same way.
no it doesn't. Steam kicks you instantly out if the other account logs into the game. Because of this hardly anyone even uses this feature or wants to share their account with others.

>abuse the system
what abuse? It's an intended game sharing feature

PC gamers like OP are basically a bunch of communists. They want papa kim Jong Il to dedicate the entire industry to make games for them and never try to make as much money as possible. waaaah but anti-consumer practice. People voted with their wallet, shut the fuck up.
Commie fucks like OP will never accept PC games being charged for $100, they expect the games to be even cheaper than console games because that's how poor and how cheap these PCommies are.
Look at those youtubers with all the PC and consoles, these are true game enthusiasts and do you see how merry they are compare to these PCommies fucks? Never be a PCommie.

No company cares about you under capitalism, retard. Them caring is never even the point nor something you should be wieeird about. Especailly abstract retarded shit like 'respecting the art'. You like what they are putting out? You give them money. You don't? Then don't use their product. Just please save the moralistic caring shit for soccer moms.

*worried

I will be happily playing games on my pc and Index for years to come.
Feels good.

>PC gamers like OP are basically a bunch of communists.
If you ever wondered why consoles still exist, let this post stand as a radiant example of the sheer stupidity of some people. It is honestly baffling that you people are allowed online at all.

>treat videogames as completely disposable trash toys
THEY MAKE VIDEO GAMES. GABE MAKES MICRO TRANSACTIONS

>buying a game online is a microtransaction
Okay console cuck
>inb4 b-but csgo and dota...
Don't...play those games?

Lastly, we’re excited to confirm that the backwards compatibility features are working well. We recently took a look at the top 100 PS4 titles as ranked by play time, and we’re expecting almost all of them to be playable at launch on PS5. With more than 4000 games published on PS4, we will continue the testing process and expand backwards compatibility coverage over time.
This is from playstation blog. Just 100 game tested and they "hope" most of 100 games playable day one. Dude, I was a sonyfag from start but this shit piss me off. I don't care about fucking specs becasue you can play games anyway. I wanted to reach my whole library because I build a HUGE psn library and most of my games are going to die. SHIT.

What a load of shit, Sony is the only one trying anymore

When compared head to head, I think the Sexbox will come out on top against the PS5 next gen. Even this gen, if you had the option of buying a game on the Bone of the PS4 you should probably go with the Bone-version

The only problem is that it's a big "if" right there.

xbronies are unbelievably desperate lmao
see you seething when the PS5 hits 100 million

Your existence is baffling

>We recently took a look at the top 100 PS4 titles as ranked by play time, and we’re expecting almost all of them to be playable at launch on PS5.
>100
The state.

Of course, the console is for the retards like black people.

I find it funny how the website that doesn't shut up about "no games" are going Xbox next gen after they announce no games for the first two years

>PC gamers like OP
Except I have a PS4, how shitty the PS5 seems was the final motivation for me to finally start seriously thinking about bringing my PC up to speed and making it the main machine for all games. Sorry drone but snoy doesnt own my soul

>PS5
100 games at launch
>Fridgebox
1000 games at launch

wow I am simply baffled how anyone could prefer Xbox

Why would a capitalist free country bar law abiding citizens people from going online at all you dumb commie fuck? Not even authoritarian regimes do that. Fucking commie.

Consoles makes gaming accessible and make devs plenty of money to keep the industry big and afloat. Are you PCommies willing to pay $100+ for video games to have the same effect? No. You poor fucks have no money, no woman, you know you amounted to nothing in life, this is why you are so bitter.

Desktop PCs are dying off amongst normalfags unfortunately, under that environment, consolefags will continue to survive, we'll have to wait another decade for laptops to surpass consoles now.

People dont realise this shit sony announcement was done on purpose to help get xshit back into the market after they ejected themselves from it by trying too fuck over the gamers by blocking second hand games and spying on people for intelligence agencies and corporations

sony and microsoft are apart of the same corporate mafia and have paid manipulators like this user to get people with short memories to forget what microshit tried to do to the gaming industry

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I find it funny as a playstation owner how the playstation literally has one game and everything else relevant and not so relevant is going or is already on PC. Its also hilarious that the one game the PS4 has cant be played in 4k 60fps or something remotely similar on the PS5 not only because the "top 100" most played games are 20 different fifa, cod, rockstar and ubishit games with fortnite on top but how the game is made by clueless gooks so its probably a code clusterfuck to ever even unlock the FPS of that game at all

And since I already have a PS4 and bloodborne, i might never have to buy another snoy product again. The next xbox is stronger, infinitely more consumer friendly and I wouldnt be fucking surprised if it had more and better games too because literally everything snoy shits out is just another spin on the exact same movie formula or a downgraded, soulless version of some old decent franchise like their abysmal ratchet and clank movie tie in embarrassment

there quite literally is an extra fee for netflix on the playstation 4

I only buy consoles once there are 3 exclusive games actually released that I want to play.

I'd prefer not having to buy them but good exclusives are my bane.

go outside and calm down holy shit I can feel your autistic rage

>stop buying from this mega corp, i don't personally agree with their practices
>please buy from these other mega corps instead, yeah some of them actually develop hardware for the mega corp i mentioned before but that doesn't matter, please buy from them

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Lads, Yas Forums is full of paid manipulators who use one side vs the other side divide and conquer tactics to get a gamer to be loyal to either side and buy all their products when that gamer should actually realise that both sony and microsoft work together to rob you of everything they can and are laughing at you in their joint boardroom meetings

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>Nintendo not the king of anti consumer tactics
Lmao
Kill yourself

>meanwhile you also don't support game development
yeah because leeching a game of your friend is supporting game development

its literally as bad as piracy

why would anyone accept games being charged at $100
you know the free market goes both ways right?
developers dont just get to dictate what will sell like some authoritarian shitbag, if the customers wont accept it then its will fail and they will have to do what works

Why would (You) argue for games to be $100?

quality argument there retarded drone. show me your trophy list for PSN so I can gauge out the type of retarded autist that champions for the king of special ED. show me how many uncharted and other movie games you have completed

>say words
>banned from every website on the internet
>banned from using payment processors like visa and mastercard
>banned from your bank account
>free country
>arrested if you live in europe

what free countrys? There are no free countries you dumbass

>Why would (You) argue for games to be $100?
not that guy but no one actually wants to get expensive. however, there are people who realize that it's inevitable that they get more expensive. right now, games are cheaper than they have ever been while development costs have never been higher. it's going to happen sooner or later (likely at 70-80 bucks, not 100) and to think otherwise would be delusional.

>right now, games are cheaper than they have ever been while development costs have never been higher.
youre a retarded autist consumer drone who has gobbled up the shit EA and other studios have told you is the truth. "development costs" have never been fucking lower and creating videogames has never been easier as fucking anyone can make a game in their bedroom. The "costs" go to gigantic AAA studios with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people working on menial dogshit and the other half or more goes to completely retarded marketing budgets

learn to read you dunce, I'm not defending the practice, I'm saying it's going to happen whether or not we like it.

and not only this but the audience has only expanded over the years to the point where games are making as much or much more money than your average movie release. you can whine to me when the average game costs 250-500 million to put out there and only has a net return of similar numbers. retarded drones have been completely mindfucked by kike publishers who think that its "too little" to "only" get 10 or 20x returns on their investment because shitting out microtransactions will give them even more for less effort

> I'm saying it's going to happen whether or not we like it.
because retarded autists like you accept the lies youre being fed

>go to new console to pc port thread
>pirated chads dabbing and posting golden face wojaks
>go to new pc game release
>pirated chads dabbing and posting golden face wojaks
>go to crackwatch
>hundreds of thousands of users following the new AAA release crack
>comment section is full packed with beggars
>go to console vs PC threads
>pirate chads reminds consoles they can easily pirate all their games and console players should do the same
>go to basically any thread on Yas Forums
>there's always a piratechad reminding people this industry is not worth supporting and you should pirate everything
>PC is not a commie platform with most of its userbase located in china
if it was for PC alone basically there wont be an industry at all, all games would be free to play online shit loaded to the brim with microtransactions pretty much like mobiles because all the users are entitled to free games, sales and under 20$ prices because who the fuck pays more than that for a PC game?

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>development costs have never been higher
why?

what goes into making a game
first of all you dont pay extra for better graphics, thats simply a result of better computing power

what you're paying
>developer wages/sallaries (including artists, composers etc) [wages havent increased]
>possible licencing payments if your game includes any licened material [prices havent increased]
>cost to print physical media [more people buy digitally so less physical media needed prices therefore decreased]
>marketing budget [you choose how much you spend on marketing]

so why do games cost more now than before?
they dont.

plus games now have a larger customer base increasing profits
games now have dlc out the ass increasing profits
games now have microtransactions ballooning profits to insane levels

why would games need to increase in price?

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b-because it costs more to put in da better graphics!!11