Idk why, but something about the beta of Sonic 2 is just ... scary. Something anout it just unnerves me and just disturbs me somehow.
Tl;Dr Sonic thread? Beta content?
Sonic 2 Beta
Leo Parker
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Aiden Ramirez
I like Wood Zone
Sebastian Brooks
Red Mountain was supposed to have ghosts.
John Price
a graveyard theory
Andrew Nelson
Wood Zone felt like they were mostly fucking around with the concept early on then seriously getting anywhere like HPZ. It reminds me more of a test map then anything.
Benjamin Adams
I think that just comes from fear of the unknown, it's human nature to want to avoid something you don't understand. Although there's probably a better explanation
Gabriel White
>TSR plus never
Fucking why
Landon Gutierrez
A better game to describe that feeling for me would be Sonic Adventure. There's still so much about this game that we still don't know.
According to the AutoDemo's object file this is Twinkle Park act 1. The only other instance of this version of the stage is through some pixelated texture in the final game (a screenshot of this early level is used as a reflective texture on several objects throughout Twinkle Park).
Isaiah Gomez
Yeah, human nature sucks lol, yet it's so damn intriguing. But if you want my two sense: I feel Sonic 2 was gonna be a much darker game due to the slow pacing, the dropped concept of Time Travel affecting the levels and just the pure eerieness behind it.
I also think that the 8 bit version was gonna be something like Sonic 1 where a few things were changed, but the same. I honestly think it's possible that Tails could've died like in the 8 bit games too
Luke King
So there was apparently a SEGA employee or exemployee that leaked some things, I didnt really pay attention. Is there a TL;DR
Josiah Johnson
I remember begging for a new game for my genesis when I was 8. Mom bought me a pirate cartdrige of Sonic 2. It was the beta version. I was so pissed
Easton Johnson
why did they think this mechanic would be a good idea even for a second
Gabriel Johnson
What does that have to do with beta shit?
Hudson Jenkins
How would she even be able to find it?
Ryan Bailey
it would've nipped that 'hold right to win' shit right in the bud forever
Charles Reyes
It's cause your a pussy. I was in the 6th grade when I learn about Sonic 2 beta and the only thing I felt was fascination.
Cooper Hill
Go on...
Ryan Peterson
So Sonicbros, what was the purpose of adding UFO's to Marble Zone? And why didn't they keep them?
Samuel Myers
Are the older builds just lost or something? Why do game devs never release older builds of their products but film and music companies release outtakes all the fucking time? That’s always baffled me. Imagine how interesting a Super Mario Bros beta would be
Robert Russell
marble zone is kinda reminiscent of south america and there's a bunch of myths about aliens building temples there
Henry Lee
OP clearly sonic thread as well as beta content
Jayden Myers
Yeah, I feel fascination too, you dick sucker
That's why I made this fucking thread in the first place. And for the record, nobody here cares that you were 11 or 12 when you found out about Sonic 2'a beta, or that you're a 90s kid.Get the fuck over yourself, you entitled millenial prick. And while you're at it, make sure you aren't a fat, balding bastard. 40 years goes by fast, doesn't it??
I wanted in this thread was a discussion, not a fucking dick measuring contest. But let's be honest, you'd lose since you jack off around the fucking clock. Now either contribute to the conversation or get the fuck out
I'm so fucking sick of your generations entitled shit, mother FUCKER
Julian Brooks
Do you happen to be either chinese or brazilian?
Isaiah Sullivan
What do you mean sonic 2 was gonna be darker?I know time travel was going to be in some sort of SEGA CD remake of one of the older games but that turned into Sonic CD. Only other thing is Genocide City but that's it to my knowledge. Also the 8 bit games were completely different and tails only does in the bad ending of sonic 2 GG/MS.
Luke Taylor
Did you keep the beta? That's pretty valuable
Blake Thompson
Absolutely SEETHING
Lincoln Moore
Sonic 2 was meant to have time travel implemented in the game's mechanics to make it drastically different from the final game
But due to extremely condensed development hell, it came out the way it did without time travel
Jose Perry
Might be partially because you're conditioned to think of Beta's as mostly finished while the Sonic 2 Beta is poorly named and is clearly an old-ass Alpha. Not as old as the Nick Arcade ones but still.
That said even with the actual beta's it's still insane how late into development they changed the title screen.
Chase Anderson
>that sonic 3 cart that surfaced recently with fucking drop dash and the PC version songs in it
Colton Rivera
What indicates that they're alphas and not betas? What builds specifically?
Yeah I know that but still I dont see the dark part . You think they'd ever remake 1 and 2 in mania style? Like make 1 a good game and try the time travel shit again or just polish the game a little more?
Ian Howard
Where were you that day?
>mfw
Gabriel King
>Salad Plain
>R2
Sonic Month was fucking WILD.
Jaxson Moore
I prefer the proto songs
Hunter Cruz
I liked the swirly legs in Sonic's run cycle. Glad it came back in Mania.
Jayden Lewis
Recent? I thought that was somewhat old. Pretty cool though. I would have preferred the drop dash over the shield/double attack.
Speaking of Sonics moveset, what should be his complete set of skills? Drop dash, super peel out, spindash , wall jump and stomp (if they decide to kill mighty again). Could be interesting. I think they can expand the gameplay with how many buttons we have now and the hardware
Benjamin Sullivan
>What indicates that they're alphas and not betas? What builds specifically?
They're general programming terms. Alpha is essentially a work in progress (think Early Access games when they're first put up) and Beta is when they're more or less done but the kinks need to be ironed out (think a modern AAA game at launch.)
Gavin Moore
Even for Ice Cap? Old Act 1 was unfinished as shit.
Ryder Nguyen
What is this supposed to show? Combined 2 and 3 sprite?
Robert Morgan
I mean, Sonic CD is already dark, especially with the fucked up US soundtrack. I don't think it would have been any darker than Sonic CD.
Levi Bennett
it was like november or december, right?
as cool as peel out is I don't think it really adds anything of worth to his moveset compared to everything else.
Aaron Green
Yeah it's some shit i was fucking around with before Mania came out and everyone was posting their ideal look for Sonic
Parker Young
We hear NOTHING almost about the development of sonic games. I bet there’s so much interesting shit
Joshua Edwards
If I remember correctly, I saw on Sonic Retro about 5 years ago that Hidden Palace Zone has the same level values as Oil Ocean Zone, meaning that they were linked in more than one way. Apart from color scheme and similar architecture in design, I believe Hidden Palace's bad future may be Oil Ocean
But I hear you ask: Hidden Palace was meant to be a place that is accessed after all 7 Chaos Emeralds are found! And I say yes. But Hidden Palace has a goal post that can be accessed via Debug. What I'm getting at is that I think it's eerie as fuck that an ancient civilization is being burned away as fossil fuels
Regarding your Mania statement, I doubt it since classic purists want something new. Time travel could happen, but I just don't know
Honestly, I want a Sonic Advance Trilogy+Battle remake made in the style of Mania
Christian Jenkins
That was just some LARPer.
Parker Bailey
To be fair eggman does that even in the base games. Ancient ruins are constantly being dabbed on by him, marble garden for example
Adam Cox
>it was like november or december, right?
November. Also, this fucking blew my mind for some reason.
Chase Wood
How does Yas Forums like Yuji Naka's programming?
Parker Morris
>unfinished
May I forward your interest to this then: m.youtube.com
Sebastian Hughes
>dabbed on by him
Good to know I have a fellow gen z person here. But yeah, what makes it different is the tone of Sonic 3. Knuckles is the sole bearer of the echidna race and it's modern enough to be recognized in Sonic lore. But Proto Palace Zone? (I'll call it that from here on out) That shit is lost to time, just like many civilizations we have yet to unearth in our world
I remember fucking around in Sonic 3K's debug in Sonic Mega Collection for my gamecube back in 2014 (6th grade) and I thought it was used to test the blue spheres levels
Is it?
I have no idea how to code lol; All I can do is go to school to become an orthodontist, write novels and post on Yas Forums lol
Zachary Adams
>that unused theme that people assume was supposed to be the super sonic theme
Ryder Morgan
HE GOT LARRY
Joseph Allen
I think a modern sprite based sonic game would be cool in general. Advance 1 and 2 are cool but 3 is meh aside the cool team mechanic.
Mason Scott
What kind of novels do you write? Also have you read this
info.sonicretro.org
I did recently and can’t believe I didn’t know about it.
Jose Martinez
Lucky for you I already listened to that remaster yesterday. I'm subscribed to that channel.
>Is it?
Yes. The red spheres object in Angel Island's object placement are a leftover from the tech demo that served to test the 3D mechanics of the Special Stages.
Aaron Sanchez
>coding in assembly
Fucking based, what more is there to say?
Alexander Wilson
I actually like that a lot, looks great and i think it would fit the new animations a bit better. Dont get me wrong, I like the "new" sprite and tha animations but they dont mix well imo, he looks...bigger? and rounder/softer. 1 and 2 sprites look more edgy and serious.
It's weird how small details can really change the entire look of the sprites, 3 is chubbier but still uses the 2 sprite as a base since they share a lot of details.
Anyway, I'd like to see your version be fully made especially with the darker blue, I'd keep the smile though. Speaking of blue...why do they keep pushing light blue classic sonic when he's always been dark blue.
Nicholas Phillips
>ywn see cybershell review mania 2
Aaron White
youtube.com
Lincoln Carter
Do we know about his whereabouts? Some people say he stopped caring about sonic until mania but then stopped caring again
Nicholas Hernandez
Pretty amazing how we have hand-holding IDEs and people who can't code for shit in professional coding positions. Assembly separates the men from the boys.
Tyler Russell
You never really stop being a sonic autist, it’s in his blood, his autistic blood. He probably just like many people nowerdays goes through phases of disillusionment with sonic, and lack of passion.
Charles Gomez
I'm writing two types of novels: One for children/adults that encourages them to think for themselves while being entertaining enough on a level of Dragon Ball Z/Spongebob. The kind of aim for it is if pokemon and met a kid friendly and realistic version of high school stories while teaching kids how to be happy with their lives.
The other is an adult novel series that's more carefully written out. It's a lot like Metal Gear Solid with a mix of conspiracy theories merged into the story, and also tons of neutral stance social commentary.
>pic absolutely related lol
I will give that link a read
Wow! Thanks for answering a very old question I've had for a long time
Tyler Moore
Oh, that SEGA Employee AMA?
Tl;Dr
>SEGA is gonna Penders
>New Sonic game, about Eggman using Chaos Emeralds to open the multiverse and team up with an Eggman that beat Sonic
>Boost gameplay, Forces Models, Lost World/Forces Engine
>Shadow playable ala Forces
>Ben Schwartz voicing Sonic
>Features Blue fucking Zavok, who has lightning powers
>Classic Sonic in it, only kinda sorta
>Adventure remake HAPPENING!
>But it's a BOOST remake
>Only Sonic and Tails initially playable, other characters are free DLC
>Forces Models
It sounds so bad, it has to be real.
Matthew Russell
the old lava is better
Nicholas King
That’s cool. Wish you luck with the books
Kevin Jenkins
>Sega is gonna SUE Penders.
Legitimately the only good part of the leak
Chase Clark
Thank you very much :)
I gave that story a read, and wow. I now understand the heroic vibe Sonic has, plus the whole aviator theme his logo circle has. It makes sense now
Jonathan Lee
Why do I even bother
Imagine how apeshit people would go over a boost remake. Holy shit, I hope it happens, just so Sonic fans can show their true power once more, like they did with that movie