PS5 COPE

>It's dangerous to rely on Teraflops as an absolute indicator of performance.

t. Matt Cerny

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For a console it is. It's about the experience. Not about some spec sheets. It's a device specifically made to perform one task really well; playing video games. It's going to do that and the winner will be the one who has the best games AND best experience.

Remember this guy single handily saved the Gooks after the disaster of the PlayStation 3 which was years more powerful than anything on the market but nothing good came of it because no one knew how to use it and it ran worse.

White alpha male Chad saved PlayStation 4 and it's the reason it destroyed Xbox this generation. He knows what he's doing. Show respect, dumbass.

Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy, and Yakuza are xbox now. Have fun not being able to play Phantasy Star Online 2 weeb.

Embedded eDRAM memory exemplified this. Irregardless, but PS5 only has SSD drive going for it.

>if we have less flops then flops arent good!

>muh niggaflops
You peasants don't even know what those are. They're also not representative of real world perofrmance.

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You also forgot they lost Horizon, MLB The (Shit) Show, Death Stranding + more.

That's good. The few people who use an Xbox One will have something to entertain themselves with while they save up money for the PlayStation 5.

MY NUMBER BIGGER THAN YOURS
OOGA BOOGA

he's right though

This whole presentation was embarrassing as fuck. And Cuckera's copeposts even more so. Enjoy your 2.2 Ghz house fire as Sony's trademark shit fans desperately try to cool this overclocked abomination.

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why did sony put all their money into storage of all things?

He isn't. Both PS5 and SeX use identical uarch so TF comparisons are actually useful. Sony us coping big time since MS went overkill and decided to outdo even top Nvidia $1000 GPUs.

They are floaty point. Whoever has the most points wins.

Wasn't PCtards saying this before the Sony presentation and that consolefags are retarded for doing as such?

It was too late to match SeX' superior CU. Putting your SSD on steroids and overclocking your GPU can be done way later in the process than something as crucial as SoC.

t. terafloplet

I am a Xbotfag, and I actually liked listening to his presentation, but holy shit at least show some visuals comparing the PS5 hardware to the PS4.
MS showed off games running on the SeX to show of RT and compared the loading between the X and SeX.
They are hyping the shit out of their SSD, the least they can do is show it in action

Yup, pretty much. How well those custom GPU's will perform depends on the rest of the system (CPU, RAM speed, storage etc.) and that's where consoles always end up getting bottlenecked.
Expecting locked 4K 60 fps on a 400-500 dollar system is retarded. Current consoles barely even reach 1080p/60fps.

Kek Cope

>Seething

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>Acshually higher clocks is better than more CUs
lmao enjoy your literal house fire and underclocked CPU you manipulative shit

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I expect the SeX to be priced at $499 and the ps5 to be at $349

>and that's where consoles always end up getting bottlenecked
You haven't seen their specs then. The SeX is a high-end PC on all fronts. From storage to CPU to memory to GPU.

The issue is that the TFLOPs comparison will be more valid considering the AMD architecture used

I'll have to see it to believe it because in my experience consoles always end up performing much worse than advertized.
>but muh paper specs
Don't be a fucking retard.

he was talking in relation to ps4 and pro

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Here you go. Gears 5 runs equivalent to high-end PC on SeX.

thing is though, they are both run on pretty much the exact same architecture so unless the ps5 has some magical fairy dust in it, the SeX is going to perform better

less than 20% GPU tflop difference and having less compute units in theory does allow better wavefront utilization so he's not exactly lying but overall the xbox is gonna be like 10% faster or so

>it's the reason it destroyed Xbox this generation.
Xbox shooting itself with a bazooka was Mark's doing?! Holy shit, didn't know he had such an influence inside Microsoft

Reports say that the PS5 cost like 460$ to make, so it my be 500$ with the SeX being 600$

Actually a high end pc has more than 8 cores and runs at 144hz my poor little console baby

The next gen consoles are just budget PC's for people who shop at wal-mart

And to add on, this is when the game isn't even optimized for the SeX

had a mild aneurysm reading that

Eh the benefits of having stable clocks and more CUs outweighs that. Especially with Ray Tracing performance being dependant primarily on CU and not clock speed. The PS5 will also need to downclock its CPU to reach advertised GPU speed. There are immense drawbacks Cerny failed to mention.

Gears is incredibly well optimized on all sytems and runs on a toaster so I'm still not impressed.

ray tracing is affected by clock speed it's also going to be at most 20% slower

SeeSeX will have Gears 5 MP running at 120hz.

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Who da fuck owns a 120hz TV though.

is this creepy looking guy the ear fetishist?

>tears of war 5
lol?

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SeX has 9 GRays/s while PS5 will have to manage at 7.6 GRays/s.

most xbox one games are. its just not impressive. if this were, several years ago it would be incredibly impressive

These threads will be a fond memory when sales data drops and the PS5 outsells the XboxSEX

Both consoles will be sold at a loss

did they release gigaray figures for xbox? I only saw them claiming 360 billion box interesections or something like that but yeah I assume sony will have that 7.6 or whatever equivelant

Gigarays is Nvidia buzzword fuckery, not an industry standard finite measurement.

What the fuck happened to Sony over the last 3-4 years?

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Nobody is saying SeX will outsell PS5. However it will completely outperform PS5 and provide superior OS with actual BC capabilities.

Nah, PS5 costs about $470 to manufacture, it won't cost less than $400 to buy, XSX on the other hand will probably be $500+ on launch

While that is "technically" true, it is a relative appropriator of performance, and presumably the PS5 simply is less powerful than the Series X (although its SSD seems to be faster)

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I'm kind of thinking microsoft and sony are both trying to wait out one of the two revealing a price and then matching or undercutting if possible

Not unusual for consoles to be sold at a small loss to establish a userbase, make money back on the games sold, and eventually turn the console profitable as manufacturing costs decrease over time. If PS5 costs $460 it's not outside the realm of possibility that launch price will be $450 or, unlikely yes but possible, $400.

alright makes some sense and if 7.6 is true it's better than rtx 2070 ray tracing

>guy who knows what he's talking about trying to explain key factors not being paid attention to

>you, covered in cheetos dust: "yeah, I know better than this guy. One number is higher than the other. What an idiut!"

reminder that the ps3 cost 840 dollars to make so it would be a surprise if they sold the ps5 at a significant price cut

Do they even exist anymore? It's such a fickle and annoying thing, because companies can say they've got fucking 4000hz TV and get away with it because it's a different type of Hz, or some other bullshit.

>I get a 165hz monitor
>Oh neat, my Dad picked up a 100hz telly last week.
It's a 3D TV that's 50hz, but duplicated or some shit for 3D and they can call it 100hz. Fucking annoying.

Lol unless you have shares in Sony, who cares about console sale?

Americanisation

Cerny looks like a huge cuck.

*wouldn't

Lmao that will never fail to make me smile. You take away Sony's spot as top dog because they fucked up bigtime you get a once in a lifetime chance and what do you do you dun fuck it up bigtime. It was like they saw their competition and went "yeah ill just nuke myself on the 3rd iteration thats a neat trick"

They're both going to be $500. The SSD and controller with force it up.

Pretty good choice to do the test too as gears is well optimized

*and who have sex too

My bad.

I disagree, Microsoft is not worried about being undercut since they are preparing Lockhart, so they can sell SX as a premium experience and sell Lockhart as a budget experience, PS5 will end up being boxed in the middle

>Teraflops
literally 'horsepower' for normoid console gamers

Guarantee Sony is aiming for $400 price tag again since it worked out amazing for them. It's already proven online is a bigger money draw than the console itself so they'll take a loss on them. Microsoft will probably do the same but no way will they go below $500, they are banking on the "more power" advertising to help them even though it's not really working right now. I'll give them props for what they are achieving though spec wise, but if the storage speeds really pan out the way sony wants it too, itll be a huge bottle neck on xbox's end. Storage speeds has always been something thats widely bottlenecked consoles the last few gens and excited Sony is finally doing something about it while still keeping it free for users to upgrade how they want.

I agree in principal, console specs rarely matter. But MS really are dominating headline, and Sony is letting them run with the ball, and it's odd to me. Why not even show what the console looks like? At least that would take SOME of the thunder away? Why reveal the specs and technology in such a booorriiing and mundane way? Why not show some actual games running on theing?

DO FUCKING SOMETHING SONY

what's the general consensus atm? I saw kids spamming zzzzzzzzz in the chaat when watching the road to PS5 stream and people on Yas Forums thinking the 20% GPU difference is huge but what's the reddit world consensus of the two?

>itll be a huge bottle neck on xbox's end.
We're talking a difference of 2Gbit/s versus 5Gbit/s. In both scenarios, the rate data is read is completely overkill 99% of the time. Games today are made for mechanical drives that have like 100mbit/s or something.

it's actually 4.8GB/s vs 8-9GB/s due to the compression hardware shit

From what i've seen the narrative forming out there is that PS5 will have faster loading times but overall XSX is better

The general consensus is that SeX is stronger. And this is without accounting all the DirectX tricks MS is bringing to the table. There is simply no way to spin this in Sony's favor.

most tvs are limited by the bandwidth cap of hdmi so only really high end tvs with the newer hdmi standard can handle 120hz

is the PS5 seeming like a disaster or are people still on that side? I really don't want a fucking xbox because it's literally only getting PC games I can play on PC and I want playstation simply due to the movie games

The power difference won't matter much when it comes to actual gaming. They'll both have the same multiplats, GTA, AssCreed, COD, whatever. They'll load a lot quicker on PS5, but they'll look a bit nicer on SexBox. Pick your poison

>teraflops shouldn't be compared between architectures
>let's compare PS5 to PS4 anyway

Yeah, that's my main issue with them. I quicky realised there'a bout a 1k+ difference between a 4k TV and an 120hz one.

These people realise that these consoles use the same uarch right?