>straightforward, honest presentation about the ps5's specs and what it can do
>everyone hated that
>phil phencer, wearing his gamer shirt and a backflipped baseball cap rolls in on a skateboard
>"hey, what's up fellow gamers?"
>the hype men in the audience can't stop screaming as phil's grin widens
>insert montage with minorities about how important gamers are
>showcase of multiplat games with huge Exclusive logos before them
>everyone liked that
why are gamers like this?
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Cerny put out a GDC talk, which is fine, but you don't put out a fucking GDC talk after months of silence, during which your main competitor has been putting out actual consumer-centric information. If this was a different setting, you could just swap in Jim Ryan instead of Phil Spencer.
>>straightforward, honest presentation about the ps5's specs and what it can do
You mean like overclocking their shit so they can claim their piece of garbage is a 10TFLOPS machine instead of a 9FLOPS one. That's the opposite of honest knowing it won't even reach those numbers most of the time. They are panicking, they spend 30 minutes talking about an SSD and downplaying all other features, they know damn well is the only thing they had that was worth mentioning.
Cerny looks like a pedo and Phil could probably do a mctwist over a helicopter
this is a common theme between ps and xbox conferences tho
at E3s too the ps conferences were always much more raw and straightforward, while the xbox conferences were much more filled with manipulative bullshit, yet people never called out MS or Phil for this but unironically praised them as "having the better conferences"
They have no games so they don't talk about games
>ou mean like overclocking their shit so they can claim their piece of garbage is a 10TFLOPS machine instead of a 9FLOPS one
nice headcanon
>they know damn well is the only thing they had that was worth mentioning.
you are talking about this as if this wasn't something worth bragging about
Sony shouldn't have made their presentation public.
It wasn't meant for game developers, not the gamers themselves.
>xbox conferences were much more filled with manipulative bullshit
all conferences are manipulative bullshit. or have you forgotten about the cell processor, playstation move and playstation camera?
>you are talking about this as if this wasn't something worth bragging about
yeah it's an awesome SSD but only first party titles will utilize it and it's going to mean even more expensive proprietary expandable storage.
>speed of the SSD
Like who cares? Really who gives a shit?
I'm not saying sony never done this, but nowhere near to the extent that MS did youtube.com
their conferences are just a pure flow of manipulative bullshit, yet people are praising them for "being good shows" instead of calling them out. Meanwhile everyone was constantly criticizing ps conferences this gen for the presentation being boring
>straightforward, honest
LOL!
you don't understand how much hidden limiations games already have so they can run seamlessly with less loading screens. Not having to deal with these limitations anymore is what this ultrafast SSD means
first party games, second party games and 90% of Japanese games since they typically make games for PS first and only think about porting them to PC after that
at least the last three big xbox events have been game trailers pretty much start to finish. they are no better or worse in their manipulation than most other game companies, including sony.
>90% of Japanese games since they typically make games for PS first and only think about porting them to PC after that
have you just woken up from a 5-year coma?
>honest
Yeah and like every Sony console most shit they promise won't live up to the expectations remember 4K with the PS4?
>have you just woken up from a 5-year coma?
have you?
majority of Japanese 'multiplats' are admittedly made with PS4 in mind first and foremost, and PC or Switch ports only being secondary considerations and usually don't even come out until much later. Granblue Fantasy Versus, Nioh, Dragon Quest11, Nier Automata, FF7 Remake, these are all good examples for this.
>haven't shown the box
>said nothing about the services
I'm sure PS5 will be a fine machine but it honestly seems like Sony are pretty behind in their hardware design. MS make it look like they are ready to put Series X on the shelves.
only Nier Automata is a halfway decent example. but even if all of them were, that's hardly 90% of japanese games.
>hardware so shit they can only priorize either the CPU or the GPU at a time. Can't run both GPU and CPU at 100%, otherwise it will melt and cause a house fire
>this means
>still use obsolete RDNA 1 architecture while ChadBox already uses next-gen RDNA 2 - which is 75% more efficient and faster
>have inferior bandwith in pretty much everything
>no raytracing for you
>B-B-BUUUT MUH SSD!
The ChadBox also has an SSD and it will make absolutely no difference in performance.
Sonyroaches are known to be low iq shit eaters, so it was easy to Neo-Commiefornia$ony to deceiver and bullshit them with some 30+ minute marketing talk about 'DA POWA OF DA CLOUD THIS BE THE NEXT WATERCOOLER!'
Pathetic. Utterly pathetic.
>and that's where fun part begins
>The End
the joke writes itself
I would love to see Phil Spencer beat the shit out of Mark Cerny on stage.
>Has to use fake gif audience, and they didn't even show the actual fucking console itself
>Meanwhile Phil announced the SeXbox at Geoff's award show last December, and has been putting out a bunch of information about the thing, along with gaining the favor of people by having true backwards compatibility
Sony is going to botch their reveal. Maybe not as hard as the PS3 reveal, but it's going to be a ball drop instead of a mic drop.
>nice headcanon
i love how sony just had to overclock it to get it over 10 tflops to close a the gap even just a little bit because every other spec from the leak was right on the money
Microsoft
>drops the unannounced bombs and blows away everyone
Sony
>watch us at this hour so we can explain to you, why our custom and expensive SSD is so important, don't forget to expand the storage by buying our certified SSDs
Mark Cerny is a lying narcissistic dipshit.
>Sony announces that they're going to give away PS5 info
>Everyone tuned in because they were expecting an actual reveal of what the console looked like
>Don't even get a reveal, just a bunch of disappointing info about how the PS5 is clearly going to be weaker than the SeXbox and how it's only offering the bare minimum for backwards compatibility
I can only imagine just how angry they look as they read all of the comments on that video of people asking if the presentation was a joke or not.
And then that asswipe Cerny tries to imply that an overclocked overheating console is better than one with more CUs at stable thermals.
The SeXbox might look like a refrigerator, but at least Microsoft actually has something to fucking show.
It wasn't straightforward though. He clearly meandered through every topic to make excuses for why the PS5 will be both weak and expensive. That was the thesis of the GDC talk.
>Our games will have unlimited asset streaming due to our new SSD pipeline!
>But they'll only run at 1800p 30fps :^)
Sony drones will still buy the console.
The answer is a little simpler than you're making out OP
>snoys have been "leaking" specs that the ps5 will be stronger than pcs and have a stronger graphics chip than the 2080 let alone 2080 ti.
>Claiming ridiculous specs and full backwards compatibility
>Claiming every other console is "done" because ps5 is easily the best
Then the presentation happens
>crushed snoys whine and moan or shut up, while the internet rightfully tells them how retarded they were for dreaming the specs would be anything but meh-level
>Nobody's happy with the conference because of the massive overhyping snoys do every single fucking generation
Then there's Microsoft
>Fail miserably with xbone and xxxbone
>Advertise early, try to get a jump on the competition, like with the 360 and beat sony early
>Reveal some pretty strong specs, conveniently forget to announce pricing
>No games yet, microsoft fans already dwindling due to nogames
>start revealing games
>people happy that good numbers box will have games
Blame it on the snoys, they honestly ruin what is otherwise a perfectly serviceable platform. Except for easily the worst controller of the main bunch. Symmetric bottom sticks are a disaster. Symmetric top sticks would be great though.
>he thinks SSD just means fast load times
oh PC gamers, when will you learn?
im actually more excited for the ps5 but that presentation was wrong to show for everyday consumers at this time
no games or anything not even a tech demo....
Looking at how mediocre Sony's own games sell, there really aren't very many of them. It looks like there are a lot more, but that's just casuals from reddit.
>straightforward, honest presentation
it wasn't in the slightest
>All this snoy cope
Oh it's glorious! I wonder if the ps5 inevitably flopping will end the playstation altogether
breh
I'm a PS fag, and it wasn't the info, it was how it was delivered. Shit was boring as fuck. They could have gotten someone to do the presentation with a bit more energy.
>honest
the github leak was spot on, the console is actually 9TFlops, they had to make up numbers to damage control xbox recent announcements
>no games shown taking advantage of these new features
>no signs of the actual hardware so we had no idea how cooling will be handled even after him talking about temperatures extensively
>their response to a Microsoft+ Digital Foundry deep xbox SeX analysis is a boring GDC talk they could've done weeks ago
they did show a lot of detail, YES, but important stuff like demos of games utilizing this new hardware and the actual hardware being left out feels dishonest
Does Sony even have an actual major Day One exclusive for the PS5, or are they just going to rely on hastily porting TLoU2 to the console and calling it a day.
Microsoft has Halo Infinite, and it's clear that the Xbone is just sitting in the water for the time being in terms of new games, considering Gears 5 was the last major release for the console.
>consoltards discover what an SSD is
kek, they really never fail to amuse me.
They showed a concept of a console and not the console itself.
It's like asking from an architect to show you the house he built and him showing you a maquette.
there's literally nothing exciting about a deep dive into system specs and and any attempt to make it so is always forced and cringe. irregardless of what you feel about the honesty of the presentation it was delivered exactly as it should.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't load time way more than the SSD speed? You've got to process all the data through the cpu that you load at some point and 5.5gb/s takes a lot of bandwidth if that's actually what you're using.
Not to mention, this'll be the advertised best case scenario meaning sequential reads on a machine that's only doing reading. It's still fast as fuck, but not so impressive when you know as the best case scenario that'll be when it's only focusing on that data and nothing else i.e a loading screen.
>>crushed snoys whine and moan or shut up, while the internet rightfully tells them how retarded they were for dreaming the specs would be anything but meh-level
Isn't that how it always is? No matter if M$ or Sony, every single time "rumors" claim the end of the PC with the new gen being so powerful that nobody will need one anyway, only to then be released with mid-level hardware at best, sold at a loss by both companies. And every time retards fall for it again, I'd like to think that it's just new kids who never saw it happening before but by now I'm not so sure anymore.
Yup, but it happens a hell of a lot more from the sony camp than it does from microsoft.
Of course there are no games, all the devs at Santa Monica, Guerilla Games, Polyphony Digital, Japan Studio, Insomniac, Bluepoint, Bend, San Diego studios are doing nothing and get paid to sit on their desk and twirling their fingers all day.
You could watch the fucking presentation where mark cerny spends literally half an hour explaining the PS5's custom flash controller and have your meandering layman question answered by the person who literally just spent an hour explaining the PS5 SSD yesterday.
yea it's absolutely retarded to put these numbers for a game.
Every reviews say you won't see a difference between a 5gb/s PCIe4 SSD versus a good regular 2gb/s SSD.
Now if Sony allow the devs to write directly into the cache of the SSD it might be pretty amazing for streaming textures but it also has nothing to do with loadings.
is this SSD the new power of the cell?
lmao jokes
That's what it fucking was. Cell.
I couldn't remember what Sony kept saying about the PS3, and I kept thinking Cloud.
Sony is still insisting the products it makes are games, MS has never lied that much.
Nobody would say a thing if snoy had something interesting to tell, not to mention showing something.
I mean, what Is this? 2010? Ssd Is common knowledge, everyone knows it Is fast, and EVERYONE realise that in actual game design this theoretical gigganigga speed of loading assets at 5.5 GB/s will lead to fucking nothing. Or maybe to a substantial bottleneck of the cpu, because it Is weaker and has variable clocks.
It's gonna take a complete autistic dev with unlimitted resources to develop and design a game around "muh insane ssd speed", and not to make everything else choke on this shit.
In reality, ps5 will have a one second faster loading time than sexbox, and sexbox will have better fps and maybe resolution.
I concur, it would not be so hated, if Sony would just admit that it Is a nice featured, but not a second coming of christ, alongside muh 3d audio. Holly hell, the pathetic desperation Is in the air.
I know day 1 my Series X will play Halo Infinite and all of my Xbox One/360/original Xbox games.
What will my PS5 do day 1?
PSSD5
*8gb/s
5.5Gb/s is raw data, 8gb of data with compression. The 4.8gb number is the XSX's speed compressed, so it's actually about half as fast as the PS5 SSD, not the .7gb/s slower Xdrones like to imagine the XSX is
Some hastly compiled naughtydoguesque 15 seconds each animation fest on uncharted 4 engine with slightly more grass and butch dykes edition.
Play Bloodborne
The PS5 logo is seriously so goddamn lazy.
You don't know it will play Bloodborne, was it one of the Top100 PS4 games they tested?