DAMN

Imagine caring about hardware when the console is about games. Actual low iq bots.

The speed between series x and PS5 in regards to storage ironically will mean very little. Diminishing returns and if you've used any SSD on PC you know the CPU is the real bottleneck now for loads

>specs are weaker
>I-it doesn't matter!
HAHAHAHAHA

Yea i will definitely not be playing halo infinite and senua 2, because according to sonyfags they don't exist

I literally could give less a shit about performance just give me good games and that’s what I’ll buy

At a lower clock speed which would mean instability at high load. Really depends on what direction games take from this point forward. Sony was obviously worried about how the ps4 wasnt stable.

It doesn't. PSP had better hardware than the Nintendo equivalent and failed horribly.

It has backwards compatibility and they just released the entire KH collection so I will probably buy one

You can play both on PC.

Let me guess the ps5 will be a $100 cheaper

Cope

Sex won. Unless they have a new RROD with all that power.

SeX is locked at those TFs, cope

Negligible cpu difference. Better gpu and ram on sex better ssd on PS5. I think the only difference will be in first party stuff as they will have to benchmark to PC as well.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the SEX has better CPU, GPU, faster ram and faster hard drive with more space.

>Sony was obviously worried about how the ps4 wasnt stable.
how is that? I have a release PS4 and it's running pretty well.

you're not fooling anyone, xboy
>buying a high end console just to play old games
what a fucking peabrain lmao

DEX > STR

>buyings a PS5 to buy the last of us remasterV2 now with trannies!

Consoles stopped being about exclusives long time ago.

>sony games
You mean the ones all coming to pc?

It's not just about loading times, it's about being able to load in unique assets on the fly as the player is moving through an area.

How does Xbox have better specs but still worse games than Sony

>Correct me if I'm wrong
Okay. You're wrong.

Ps4 pro or regular? The updates to the ps4 pro were limited because of their design of the ps4 base. The pro mode for ps4 games didnt work as well as they hoped.

This must be why Xbox one is at the top and Nintendo at the bottom

Xbox has both, the faster CPU and more powerful GPU

what the fuck is I/O Throughput?

>Consoles stopped being about exclusives long time ago.
lol no. the xbox has been failing spectacularly ever since they abandoned exclusives. the first sony game that was announced for PC (Death Stranding) is rumored to have some 3 million unsold copies. Meanwhile the potato powered Switch is selling like hot bread. PC + Switch is the only way forward.

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power this gen is more irrelevant than ever since most games look like fortnite clones that could run on any toaster. games will be made for the console that sells more and then ported to other machines as usual

WE GOT TOO PENISY SNOIBOIZ...

I wanna see how these things are going to have 8k gaming like they say.
4k 120hz is even worse of a meme, I want to see actual results

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lmao, you think PS5 will have CUs running at 2.23 all the time?

>Not the best hardware by a long shot because of PC
>Not the even the best hardware for consolefags
>Not the cheapest option on the market
>Not where all the exclusives are at
>likely NO GAMES drought for the first few years
>No backwards compatibility
>Devs are all westernfags and are prone to censorship
>Shit storage
>Paid online
>Not even the best DVD player at this point

I struggle to see why anyone would buy a Playstation at this point outside of brand loyalty

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>(variable frequency)
So what they just overclocked the thing to look a bit better for this presentation?

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>Okay. You're wrong.
I didn't say "tell me if wrong" you are supposed to correct me.

HOLY FUCK
12 whole TFLOPS!!!

exactly

nobody cares about the bing bing

No, it means that developers can pick between performance or graphics when developing for the hardware.

Snoys on suicide watch

>The real winner here is the Nintendo 64, people are simply larger fans of Nintendo
>The real winner here is Microsoft, people were simply bigger fans of the Xbox 360

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yup, in reality it's something like 9tflops

>Mah tflops
2080 has 10.1 tflops and the 2060 has 6.5. Higher tflops doesnt automatically translate to better performance. Lower frequency on the other hand does.

whats with consoles and limited Ram? Why just 16 for fuck sake? everyone i know has at least 4x8 gb since its piss cheap now. I remember back in the day I had 4 gb in my pc when ps3 came out with just 512 mb.

>PS5 is reported to be using "custom cooling" that is slowing the design process, hence why it's not shown yet
>PS5 is using custom 3D audio that requires a fucking sweet spot from your TV and may not even work at launch
>PS5 is using a completely custom SSD, m2 expansion requires compatible drives that can match the theoretical speeds and match the architecture, no fucking clue how they are installed by end user
>PS5 controller has triggers that give haptical feedback and resistance, patents describe a touchscreen controller addon, rumours of wireless charging, extra back buttons
>PS5 compatible with "Most of the top 100 PS4 games by playtime at launch"
>Some weird fucking power delivery system where the CPU and GPU both automatically share power based on what's rendering on screen, GPU can theoretically hit higher clocks with """"Minimal reduction in CPU clocks""''

>XSX just partners with Seagate and sells you the exact compatible drive used in the console in a memory stick format
>XSX improves input latency to 2ms and automatically configures your TV for reduced input lag
>XSX controller is literally just an Xbone controller with rounded buttons
>XSX already shown playing original Xbox games, Xbone games
>XSX just uses enormous heatsinks and a 140mm fan
>XSX is just locked at 3.6ghz and 1825 mhz for GPU and CPU respectively, no custom power delivery mechanisms

Yeah, the PS5 is going to be cheaper. I definitely believe it. Totally. No sarcasm.
If the rumour of the 1080p Xbox Series S is true and they launch an entry level console at 300$ this is literally going to be an open and shut console generation.

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so what's the PC GPU and CPU equivalent?

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>>Not the best hardware by a long shot
Applies to Xbox
>>Not the cheapest option on the market
Prices aren't even shown
>>likely NO GAMES drought for the first few years
Likely? Nice way to talk out your ass
>>Devs are all westernfags
Xbox devs are ALL westernfags. Sony has some Japanese backing
>Paid online
And Xbox doesn't? They started it

I struggle to see why anyone would get an Xbox given their past history

>Only the games matter
>All games are on PC now
>The only console with actual exclusives now is Nintendo

Really puts things into perspective

I'd buy the Xbox if I could play Steam games on it. Otherwise I'm probably gonna sit out this console generation and build a new PC instead.

>825GB storage
fucking cunts

Don’t you mean the PS Vita and Wii U?

all of this for ports and remasters

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Retard if they have the same architecture then it absolutely matters
PS5's 9TF RDNA2 card WILL get outperformed by SeX' 12 TF RDNA2 card

>xbox has better specs than ps2 but it came out as the best console of the generation
>ps3 architecture is considered better than 360 but it barely won that gen

specs are nothing, if rumors are true that sony is getting the konami IPs, we can dig another hole to bury xbox

Is the I/O difference due to MS using an average vs. Sony using a top-end, maybe? I don't get how it'd be that large a difference. It's very damning on MS.
Other than that no surprise, we knew Sony would not be motivated to produce the better console.

>cope
You dont even have an argument. Just an opinion.
>maybe hidden information
Lower frequency is known information. Their custom algorithm argument is cope.

>80 million sales
>failed horribly

Damn, After DBZ F&K. I want Bleach now. FE style again like 3rd Phantom or open world SH3/Lords of Shadow 2?

That's some mega cope

itll be a difference in loading levels in 2 seconds vs 4. completely inconsequential. for in game assets itll be even less dramatic

2070S to 2080 GPU wise

>sony is getting the konami IPs
this really isnt possible. Its too costly.for Sony and those IPs are Konamis contingency plan.

>Applies to Xbox
I agree but consolefags still hate touching computers
>Prices aren't even shown
There's no chance any new console won't have a huge price tag on it. The reason the PS4 was selling so well lately was because of library + heavy discounted price. They don't have that benefit now
>Likely?
Yes. See: every console launch in the past couple decades
>Sony has some Japanese backing
Sony has made it clear that they hate actual japs ever since the move to Cali. They have a few select companies that already make games for every other platform
>Xbox started it
I mention it because every sonyfags excuse for buying a playstation back in the day was not having to pay for your own internet. The fact that they enabled it just shows how low they've fallen

PHENOMENAL cope

Switch won this console gen with the weakest hardware. All of this is meaningless before the might of Niptendo.

> first sony game that was announced for PC (Death Stranding) is rumored to have some 3 million unsold copies
you are retarded. DS PC version was announced since the game's reveal

>I'm rubber your glue
Sorry you don't have a real argument to fall back on.

>You dont even have an argument. Just an opinion.
Fucking dipshit, the amount of work per clock per accelerator is the same between both PS5/SeX, and TFLOPS give you a number that factors in both clock and number of accelerators.

Compute can absolutely compare GPUs on the same uarch

>high load
>on a console game

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Retard. Sony admires the clock speed given was variable. Xbox’s is fixed. PS5 will go lower than that frequency.

>PS5 = Faster SSD / loading times
There's very few scenarios where nvme speed matters. And I bet it's gonna overheat the fuck. While it will help the drive, it will clock the cpu.

>sony struggles to get full BC with PS4 titles
>meanwhile xbox is so far ahead they are making all BC games instantly HDR compatible

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>we want to make fewer games -Sony

suppose the trend of no games and no fun to have with your consloe resulting in laughable sales continues as well?

I fucking knew Sony was heading to the shitter over the last few years. This is just sad

>what is video memory
Why are you pretending that load isnt based on hardware limitation? Tflops dont increase performance linearly. Clock speed on the other hand.

>we still dont even know what the fucking thing looks like

>Fusion (360 BC emulator) started development in 2003
>Fission (X1 BC emulator for 360 and OG) started development in 2007
Microsoft has 17 fucking years on Sony, plus Windows is an OS built on like 10 different layers of back compat

It's not even close

>You will be able to load those ugly textures 2 seconds faster

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>my 3 year old PC is already more powerful than both of them

what the fuck, are consoles going to bottleneck technological progress again for the next 7 years?

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Why are specs so close but IO rates so different?

>cope
Variable clock speed isnt a hardware limitation. It's a conservation strategy.