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>it's hard to depict Zeus as a bro and goose rapist simultaneously
???
I think you got it backwards buddy, goose rape is what MAKES him a bro.

Then don't adapt Greek myths if you're going to be such a fucking bitch about it.

leave this board and never return

Make me

>Game where zagreus is the SON OF FUCKING HADES makes "creative" renditions

Who'd of thunk? What are the chance's they'll actually go with zagreus actually being zeus's son thrown to hades?

How about just depicting them how they are, and letting the audience experience them as they were written?
You know ancient people weren't fucking aliens or anything, they were humans, you don't need to "adapt" any of their shit. I doubt the ancient greeks thought zeus was a stellar guy either, I'm pretty sure them being degenerate assholes is the point. How about making a story with these asshole characters, instead of altering them?

Bad example, but it was the first weird Greek thing that came to mind.
Again, you're so busy being outraged you miss the point. The man himself says they shouldn't ignore these aspects, just that the really hardcore stuff isn't suited for a game that's probably shooting for a T rating. He's saying that where you just don't include that stuff in an original work, you have to find out how to respect the myth while keeping the content in the tone and age-purview you intend. Even God of War turns shit down, Greek myth is really fucking hardcore in places. You may as well say people shouldn't use Greek culture in games at all, you fucking retard.

I honestly thought that the robed npcs are just that. I didn’t know they were placeholders.

>fires dusa
SHE WHAT?

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Where does he even say he's altering the characters, you chucklefuck? He says he wants to not focus on certain aspects but also not ignore them. Given how vast Greek myth is, that's pretty fucking reasonable.

Odin Sphere does the same fucking shit and nobody complains about it. You disingenuous little niggers just want to scream at Discord and SJW boogiemen.

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If you're going to use M rated historical material, you have to have the balls to make an M rated game.
This is like making a T rated game about world war 1 or something, gay as fuck.

> he wants to not focus on certain aspects but also not ignore them
Nice cognitive dissonance doublethink, the SJW brainwashing really did a number on you.

>M rated
Greek Myth is AO material you faggot. Know what the fuck you're talking about, you perpetual cocksucker.

Which one?

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>If you're going to use M rated historical material, you have to have the balls to make an M rated game.
No? In the end it's their game, and they have all the right to change whatever they want. That's the meaning of the word d adaptation, to take something that already exists and change it slightly so it can fit in.
I'd be happy for them to change even more stuff as long as it makes the game fun

Odin Sphere doesn't count because you're talking to zoomers who've never heard of it.

Haven't played for a while, but coming back into the game did they buff Theseus and Minotaur? Maybe I'm just rusty but it feels like they gave Minotaur a fuckload of HP and he takes forever to bring down unless you got lucky with some boons.

Why is her left hand in a ball-fondling gesture?

>friendzones you
Fuck you Supergiant.

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You're thinking of his syncretism with Orphic Dionysus or something? We know almost nothing about Zagreus separate from that connection and that one time he was called "the greatest of all the gods", it's a pretty good character to go full OC on all things considered. Hell, he was even syncretic with Hades himself at some point.

Fuck the shit out of Red, marry Blue, kill Green.

She's a rape victim, be nice

Even better, there need to be more AO games.
The whole ESRB rating system is totalitarian bullshit. But we all know SJWs love censorship, the more of it the better, so of course they wouldn't have the balls to make a proper adaptation. Why even bother with real life mythology at this point?
They should just make up their own special snowlake donut steel lore. The only reason they're using greek myths is because they want the marketable clout of using recognizable imagery, while stripping it off of its identity. Being parasites on western culture while simultaneously profiting from it the staple of SJW and shitskin third worlder hypocrisy.

Left for marriage, middle for hatefucking and right for getting rid of because she's fucking insane and not in the hot way like middle.

>You're thinking of his syncretism with Orphic Dionysus or something?

They actually make reference to that. It was a party prank that Dionysus pulled, then it stuck, and now it's part of the lore that both of them have a chuckle about.

Nah Zag is pretty mythos is pretty fuzzy but his most common parents are Persephone (same in game) and Zeus (as a snake that raped her when she was stuck in a cave in)

There is ties as Zagreus being related to hades but in a "Zeus and hades might be the same person" sort of way that apparently pops up rarely in the mythos.

Fun thing about mythology.
It's up to interpretation and changing. Its not some hard-written law that can never be altered. It doesnt have a single author. Its composed largely of vague, conflicting accounts.
There's no fucking code saying Zeus must behave exactly this way in any portrayal of greek mythology beyond the shit you make up in your head.

Hercules, the disney movie, isnt 1 and a half hours of Zeus transforming into various creatures and fucking random woman because guess what?
Nobody outside your weird ass wants to see that shit.

Hesiod's version shouldn't be seen as definitive. There's 3 fucking Gorgons in the Perseus story and Hesiod's version just doesn't account for them at all. The man hated women so fucking much one has to wonder how many of his boyfriends got stolen by perfidious femoids. That's not even mentioning the absolute rampage against womankind he went on during his Pandora story.

>Adaptations should be 1:1
Why even bother? Just read the original.

>Inspirations
>For Hades, it's obviously Greek myth and the Fagles translations of The Iliad and the The Odyssey, and also comic-fantasy works such as The Princess Bride and the Discworld series, plus a ton of character action games such as Devil May Cry. Also my experience growing up as an immigrant to this country with a family that struggled along the way. I think families are complicated.
>For Pyre, it was my experience working as part of this team, Ursula K. LeGuin's fantasy fiction as a latent inspiration, the worldbuilding of early Ghibli movies, and my own sentiment around modern media being very cynical and being overly concerned with building up characters only to kill them (via the popularity of Game of Thrones and Walking Dead, and this is not a knock against those great works). I think I was reading Lovecraft a bunch as well.
>For Transistor, it was the writing of Philip K. Dick, movies such as Dark City and Existenz (not that there are many like them), Alfred Bester's The Stars My Destination, living in San Francisco, and aspects of my college experience. Also the novel The Plague by Albert Camus, which sat on my desk throughout the project.
>For Bastion, it was the writing of Cormac McCarthy, maybe the movie Children of Men, whatever life experience I had to that point, including influence from countless games from Zelda to Diablo. Long conversations with Amir about what sort of story we'd create if we could make one.
I love these devs I dont care what the fuck you guys think or if they are SJW. Their stories are right up my alley.

True, but Hesiod is also a better writer.

Nobody at Disney went out of their way to show contempt for the mythology they're adapting. This retard does to appease discord trannies who think all the faggot shit from Greek mythology is fine but the incest aspect crosses the line apparently.

Dropped.

*a better writer for it.

I wish we knew more about Mycenaean Greece. It's so fascinating learning that they kinda worshipped the same gods, but they also did it completely different, like their head of pantheon was Poseidon and they had a big boner for cthonic gods. Also wasn't Zagreus mentioned on one of their monuments that were found? I wonder what they saw him as.

>Contempt
>"I respect but dislike this and am trying to find ways to reference it without making it focal."
Keep seething, Yas Forumsnigger.

>Our game does not strictly adhere to canon mythology, which would be impossible anyway because canon mythology is filled with wild contradictions. Our game at least suggests how such contradictions might all fit into the same world.
>This is a game about a story about a family. It has many lighthearted elements despite some dark visuals and themes, and we want players to be able to relate to some of its characters and situations. For the family relationships to be built on incest would be ruinous to everything we are trying to achieve -- there was never going to be a world where we explored that aspect of Greek myth.
>There are other fantasy works out there that explore the darkness of incest, such as Game of Thrones, so if you want those types of stories they're available. Not to mention in some original mythology.
>I think this game has some capacity to spur some players' interests in learning more about Greek myth, which I would highly recommend, since it's fascinating. By all means dig into some of the horrors of the source material and consider the choices we've made in what to represent and what not to. Part of why Greek myth survives is that it has been handed down from author to author, and they all take the liberties they feel are necessary to make the stories compelling to their audiences in their age.

>show contempt for the mythology they're adapting
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT
taking a fat shit on everything that makes Herakles Herakles, everything that makes Zeus Zeus and everything that makes Hades Hades should surely count for fucking something. Hera was straight removed from the story even, it's a miracle feminists aren't pissed off about that.

I 100% guarantee you if you asked somebody who worked on Disney's Hercules why there was no incest they'd say something along the liens of it being inappropriate and gross, especially for the story they were telling and you would shriek about how this is contempt because some things that would detract from the movie are removed.

lmao what a bitch

Disney's Hercules is just rebranded Superman and has nothing to do with Greek myth.

No they'd say it would have been inappropriate which it would have been for a kid's movie. This game uses a more adult setting. I'm just trying to wrap my head around why faggot shit is apparently okay but incest is too "problematic".

>all this cope, excuses and virtue signalling

When are we going to get to Olympus so we can dick best girl?

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nice retarded false equivalence
>this movie with zero homosexuality (because back then that'd be inappropriate for children's entertainment) also lacks incestuous themes (because children)
>this means incest isn't allowed today but faggotry is and i don't have any further elaboration for this

I think that's a really sound decision. Imagine if it did have incest. It could create a whole hullaballoo.
In this day and age, including controversial stuff is a problem because the controversy overshadows the game itself.
People stop talking about the game and instead talk about the controversy around it. It happens all the time and it always overshadows any of the games actual merits or flaws as people pick political sides
It is a sad fact of the world we live in. It is necessary to avoid including fucked-up shit which has no real purpose.

>the game uses a more adult setting
There are no explicit mentions of sex and 2 fade-to-black scenes with implications. overall, its light-hearted
This isnt fucking GTA or a porno game. There's no reason to include fucked-up shit.

>goddess of chastity
Expect a Dusa situation again.

Its weirder still when you realize saturn from the roman pantheon which is pretty much the same as the greeks in most ways is fucking Cronus the titan that fathered, ate and then "died" to his children.

>dick
>Artemis
user...

>Their stories are right up my alley.
They are pretty much comfy.

>Make a T rated game
>NOOOOO IT HAS TO BE LIKE THE ORIGINAL
>Make a PG movie
>That's fine. Heck, change things that don't need changing.
Dumb Yas Forumsfag.

>complete missed the point I was trying to make
Typical discord tranny.

What's funny is that they are so comfy despite the fact they are all kind of fucked.
Bastion is set after the apocalypse.
Transistor is set during the end of the world.
Pyre is about tyrannical government suppressing freedom and making friends, knowing that you will never see them again.
Hades is set in literal hell.
But they are somehow also all worlds I'd want to live in.

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NOOOOO! YOU CAN'T WHITEWASH THE HECKIN' RAPERINOS

SJW game
tranny characters and black athena

>Keeps ignoring facts to whine about fucking Discord and SJWs
Pathetic.

Gods shut the fuck up already about inane shit and tell me what you're expecting from the game on release.

Who's gonna be the real final boss?
Will Zag really find his mom?
Any other gods you wanna see?

The goshdarn incestaroos!
Not the hella lit beastiality!

>literal hell
reeeeeeeee
only a part of it takes place in tartarus