>linux gamers
Is there even such a thing? How do you game on a server?
>linux gamers
Is there even such a thing? How do you game on a server?
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Please someone recommend me a decent GPU that will run games better than PS4 Pro and not cost an arm, I'm looking for compromised 4k with jitter free VR, no bullshit, give it to me straight AMD or Nvidia, is $400 enough?
>linux gamers
>2020 the year of linux (this time for sure)
wait for nvidia's 7nm you absolute retard
this is the worst time to buy a new gpu in the last decade
don't buy amd's gpus, even when the specs are decent the drivers can be an absolute nightmare
>don't buy amd's gpus, even when the specs are decent the drivers can be an absolute nightmare
not on linux, obviously
you don't install linux on a gaming pc user, what the fuck
dual boot if you have to (or get a mac if you need something for work)
why not? steam games work on linux now, they even have a website where they rate windows game working in some kind of electron proton whatever the fuck
>How do you game on a server?
ever played a multiplayer game over the network, zoom zoom?
I had to emergency upgrade CPU because stuttering in RE2, went from i5 4460 8Gb DDR3 to Ryzen 5 3600x with the fancy RAM and shit but since I had to change almost everything I need new GPU too. Can't I get something used from ebay or craiglist that will carry me for now?
I'm beginning to hate PC gaming, between the bad ports, broken hardware releases, "just wait for X bro" shit, even upgrading is a pain, reinstalling win10 required buying a new key.
Yes, the situation is much improved than 10 years ago.
It's still five times worse than Windows.
Sure, you can game on linux if you really, really want to and are willing to jump through hoops to do it. Only... why would you when you could install windows and have a much smoother and better experience for zero effort?
It's not like you're doing some multitasking when gaming anyway, so just dual-boot if you need to.
Linux gamers are either FOSS purists or people that don't treasure their time whatsoever.
>drivers can be an absolute nightmare
You thinking about amdgpu, amdgpu-pro, or fglrx?
Lutris + Proton basically makes Linux gaming as good as/better than Windows gaming. It's truly braindead simple now.
>suffering a huge performance decrease and not even being able to play some things just to satisfy your hipster urges
Have a linux partition on your drive for general pc stuff if you want, it's lightweight and efficient for that purpose, but you're only making it harder on yourself by using it for gaming.
valve made proton because they want everyone to switch to linux, and I would see how anyone would get tired of wangblows's bullshit such as ads on the main menu, taking away user control for updates (which also break more shit than loonix), mountains of bloat, forced telemetry and having way more overhead which means that it effectively runs worse than linux in basic tasks (but you can always fix these problems by running a totally safe exe made by pajeet, right?)
the only thing linux needs to beat windows is popularity, but people are lazy and love being treated as retards so that they have to put in the least amount of effort, even if that means being stuck with an inferior product
convenience > all for the average normalfag
>suffering a huge performance decrease
Not really. There are even cases where DXVK performance is faster than native windows performance.
Get rx570 to tide you over, it's good enough for 1080p60 if you can stomach not having everything on ultra and it's dirt cheap
nVidia's releasing 7nm cards which means yuge gainz, it's truly insane to buy a decent gpu rn unless you're literally swimming in cash
even budget 7nm shit should hit 4k60 if nvidia weren't turbojews. They are, since probably you'll need to buy midrange, but midrange 3000 will certainly leave 2080 in the dust
name some or post proof
Is linux even worth it for consumer grade? The last time I used linux was dual boot Ubuntu for WEP wifi hacking and obscure HDD formating. Heard the community got seriously poisoned with extremist left wing politics too and there was some inside wars. What's some good distro to try out and experiment with steam?
> $400 enough
Yea. Look for something of gtx1000 or rtx2000 series at this price point.
how's your weekend going, user?
kernel panic? what's that?
segfaults? sounds rough.
I bet you're one of those faggots that spent their christmas updating their rgb lightbulb firmware
enjoy recompiling your gentoo while I shitpost on 4chins, loser
>Is linux even worth it for consumer grade?
I use it for general web browsing, watching tv/movies, and office related stuff. It's lightweight, fast and doesn't have any microsoft update bullshit to deal with. I don't play any games on linux unless they have a linux native port or are really old and run well through wine. Windows is far more stable for modern games, and video drivers are more reliable on the windows side for obvious reasons.
what's this new meme calling people who user linux losers? my childhood friend runs linux and he owns a company making millions in profits each year. the guy would never touch a windows or mac, says linux is his 'bread, butter and boobs'
AMD HIRE RICHARD STALLMAN
It's more inconvenient for me to reboot into Windows than just play on Linux for like 95% of games now. I still keep a Windows partition around for one or two games but I boot it extremely rarely.
because the comment i was responding to is clearly deluded
linux has its place, but come the fuck on, put off the koolaid and 'muh superiority'
>It's still five times worse than Windows.
Not if you have an AMD card, and not if we're talking about a modern supported Windows.
10 is about in the same boat when it comes to Windows games as Linux is but there's no real commitment to maintenance of the legacy compatibility by Microsoft, and no real community effort like what you have with Proton.db, just a general state of denial that the problem exists.
>install windows
>zero effort
Which isn't zero effort, installing Windows, is about fifty times the effort of installing and using Linux. There's a bunch of stuff you can't even get easily through the package manager, the best AMD drivers aren't even available, and you can't even properly remove all of Microsoft's shit that you don't want to use, not to mention the spyware that can't really be removed.
Proton is pretty darn good right now. Granblue Versus worked day 1, and there's lots of movement now on one of the bigger issues left remaining (games not starting up due to unimplemented mfplat support for videos)
linux gaming is pretty good it's mostly anticheat doesn't get developed for it so mp rarely works
Proton.
GTX 1050ti
>400 enough?
Nigga, I've never wasted more than ~250 bucks on my GPU! You can get a top of the line card for that pile of money.
>There's a bunch of stuff you can't even get easily through the package manager
such as?
>the best AMD drivers aren't even available
like what?
So essentially dual boot linux for cooming purpose but use windows for serious work? Anyway in your opinion why did linux fall out of grace so much compared to 2010/2012/2014 era?
>why did linux fall out of grace so much
What the fuck are you talking about?
Get a 5700 XT (or a dual bios 5700 and flash an XT bios if you’re not a brainlet)
It kinda impresses me how tech illiterate Yas Forums is.
The Mesa drivers for AMD cards are Linux exclusive. You can't get RadV or RadeonSI on Windows. If you're running anything using OpenGL or Vulkan with an AMD card you're going to want to upgrade your OS.
>Is there even such a thing? How do you game on a server?
lol wut but nowadays shit like proton exists. I still have Windows dual booted because it's just easier but people have much more options now then they used to.
>installing Windows, is about fifty times the effort of installing and using Linux
Bro
Pls stop
As I already said: ir’s fine to be opposed to Windows based on ideological grounds, which you obviously are (and so am I to a degree). But come the fuck on, if using linux was less effort and the system was actually better then the marketshare wouldn’t be as comically lopsided as it is right now.
Valve needs linux gaming so m$ doesn’t pull any rent-seeking bullshit that Valve can’t do anything about, not because they just happen to really, really like Arch.
The only games that don't run on Linux have anti-cheat that bans Linux, and do you know why that happens?
You can't make a good anti-cheat for Linux. The OS does not allow you to do something that invasive.
Isn't that just sad? How little developers actually trust their players?
>2012 linux
>lmao just install gentoo
>even normalfag sites were talking about ubuntu
>every major part manufacturer talking about linux
>even Valve acknowledging its superiority
>2020 linux
>lmao enjoy compiling recycle bin
>computer specialized sites don't even know the difference between mint and android
>defeated AMD pulling the "but we care about the minorities" card
>linux for cooming purpose
>windows for serious work
>why did linux fall out of grace
what are you on about?
>why did linux fall out of grace so much compared to 2010/2012/2014
Did it? The same people that used it still use it. The exodus happened earlier, when macs got popular because they provide 90% of the benefits of unix-based systems without most of the cruft like missing or misbehaving drivers that nobody wants to deal with AND macos supports widely used software like excel and photoshop which is an incredible selling point (no, gimp or libre/openoffice aren’t even in the same ballpark)
We're not in 2006 anymore. Nvidia won't burn down your house and AMD has drivers.
>Greater improvements to the AMD Drivers
Nice! Guess I was right to get AMD stuff for my first build since I use Linux primarily.
>The OS does not allow you to do something that invasive.
Just run it as root.
>every distro is arch
just finding and downloading KS_VM_ALL (unless you want to pay chang 5 dorrars on ebay for an illegal license) and decrapifier is more effort than installing a sane linux distribution like xu/kubuntu, mint or manjaro
>But come the fuck on, if using linux was less effort and the system was actually better then the marketshare wouldn’t be as comically lopsided as it is right now.
Linux is much easier to install and setup than Windows. The problem Linux has when it comes to the desktop is that Windows users don't install their OS. They use the Windows that came with their hardware and never even think about installing else.
Among the general public desktop Windows vs GNU/Linux may be ~77% vs ~4%, but with system builders who do install their own OS you see a much higher percentage of Linux users.
Look at devices that come pre-installed with Linux and you'll see that the vast majority of people similarly choose to use them with what came on them even if they get excluded from the 'linux' figures in every report regardless of how standard the distro used might be.
That's why we need to see a new generation of Valve's Steam Machines. That fist-gen launched before Proton, before RadV, before the Vulkan standard even existed. They'd be in way better shape if they were to try again.
>Isn't that just sad? How little developers actually trust their players?
Have you actually played an online game in the last two decades? No anticheat = online might as well not exist.
linux gamers are just programmers who also like games. They spend their time getting a game to work, post some xkcd style meme on stack overflow, and then never touch it again because again they’re just programmers pretending to be a target demographic
if anything linus cuck tips has made it easier than ever for normalfags to get into linux
youtube.com
>Linux is much easier to install and setup than Windows
that is a complete fabrication and I am genuinely upset you would misrepresent linux that way. it's not user friendly, it never was.
Zoomers have this bizarre tendency where they assume anyone who’s good at a game is cheating. They just can’t admit they’re garbage
>How little developers actually trust their players?
Games with good anticheat that ban players frequently are still plagued with cheaters. Most “people” are sub-human.
The actual programmers are on macs, though. The servers are on linux.
There are distros other than Arch user. Some Linux distros like Elementary, or ChromeOS are designed to be extremely easy to use.
Even the standard Ubuntu is way easier to install and use than Windows 10.
>So essentially dual boot linux for cooming purpose but use windows for serious work?
Actually work is a lot easier on linux, office related stuff at least.
>in your opinion why did linux fall out of grace so much compared to 2010/2012/2014 era?
What? It's only gotten more user friendly while expanding the user base with a bunch of retard proof distros out there.
you’re only on a mac if you’re working on a company laptop no one is actually buying that shit
Yes, obviously the transformer built out of tanks in gta online was the player’s skill
There are chink ecelebs that get tons of views that stream with cheats and hacks.
Cheating would make literally anything online wholly unplayable were it not for gameguards and shit like that. This isn’t an exaggeration but fact.
god bless AMD and GOG.
You should actually try a linux installer. They're not the same they were back in 2001, or whenever it was you switched to Gentoo.
I never experienced any of this so you’re prob just making it up, as zoomers tend to do
I've done a lot of linux installs using various distros on old laptops that my family and friends have, and I encounter issues while installing all the time, usually being the installer can't erase the old OS properly. It's nothing that can't be sorted by just restarting the process, but it happens often enough that I know a laymen would be pulling their hair out if they ran into it.
If you’re working on a mac and do any programming whatsoever outside of work you will almost certainly buy a mac to have a unified development setup. Software devs aren’t exactly price-sensitive, especially since a laptop is all they really use as tools so 1500$ once every 4 yrs or so barely registers.
sooo haven’t the linuxfags ever heard of windows ? like, the works already done nigga
>AMD
So if I have a shitty card use Linux. No thanks.
Well yeah you're going to have problems installing Linux on hardware built to run Windows and with schemes meant to prevent tampering.
A layman would be way better off buying one of the many laptops available from vendors with Linux pre-installed.
They're only shitty cards on Windows user. But keep believing that, it keeps the prices down.
>that image
ganew :D