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FF7 BROS WE GOT TOO COCKY
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FF has a sameface syndrom in the shit era of FF games. Lightning always looked like cloud and so does everyone else since ff13.

>mfw an american shooter chad who doesn't need this weebshit

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>takes someone months to figure this out
>DUDE THIS IS SO LAME HOW CAN THEY DO THIS
Who even gives a shit if no one notices unless you open up the files in a model viewer?

This dude is legit obsessed lmao. I look forward to his meltdown when remake sells millions.

In 3D art we call that "morph targets", why RE-sculpting an entire head when you have the base topology set already?

COULD YOU FUCKING IMAGINE
SOMEONE USING A HUMAN FACE
AS A REFERENCE
FOR A HUMAN FACE

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>That topology

Please tell me you saved high rez images of that? 3D artist here and that shit is fucking beautiful. I'd love to be able to study it closer.

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>Be game developer
>Reuse assets like every fucking game developer does since forever
>Suddenly their game is now shit and the developers lost all credibility
>He probably likes Doom 2 and Fallout 2

$60 plus tip for 1/3 of an already existing decades old game. So this is the power of Sony fags.

>Posting this thread again
Faggot wasn't it made clear last time that this is just a common industry practice?
Fucking any game with a load of human characters starts with a common basemesh for all of them and then sculpts AS NEEDED to get the right look for a given character.

Cloud and Noctis have really similar faces, so all they had to morph was the cranium size it seems, with some very minor tweaks to the face.

If it works...

Its april 10, 2021. I can't wait to install FFVII remake in my PC.
Oh boy its almost one year since that day...no, not the release of FFVII remake, but something else. Something sinister and sad, related to this game...

This game, man. It recieved universal acclaim. GOTY 2020, there was no contest. Gameplay, music, story, you name it.
Everyone loved it, except one person. It is so sad to remember that fateful day. Australia really took a hard one that day...

That person just couldnt accept it. FFVII was a complete success. Aerith vs Tifa general daily discussion, broken materia/skills/weapons builds threads and speculation for part 2, a lot of attention. But nothing for XV after all this years.
Sometimes you could see a humble thread about XV, but every time the thread just got shat on a little more. Poor Barry, he couldnt...he just couldnt...*sniff*

Thats why he decided to...*sniff*...end it all. After getting range banned on Yas Forums for incessant "FFVII remake is shit and worse than XV" spam, his psychotic nature went afloat. He just couldnt accept it.
That day, barry just took an assault rifle and...*sniff* decided to murder whoever crossed his way...it was horrible. A lot of innocent people got killed. Barry managed to evade the cops and went missing after the massacre. Later he was found dead in his house, next to a ps4 and a TV, both plugged in of course. The TV showed XV ending. The ps4 controller had the attack and dodge button taped. Apparently the game was finished way after his death, holding the dodge and attack button. Hehe.
I will play FFVII remake part 1 once more on my PC. This time with nostalgia, but not for FF7, but for that person. Maybe...maybe Barry was just misunderstood, he just needed help. He was a sick man after all...
Poor guy...

Anyway
*new game*
*normal difficulty*
Lets mosey.


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Im just gonna drop the biggest black pill for you, Barry, i hope you are prepared.

People dislike XV not because of the gameplay mainly, i mean it adds to it, but the biggest reason people dont like XV is because its just plain boring. Boring setting, boring characters, boring soundtrack, boring everything. Nothing stands out.

In ff7re im gonna fucking play with a dork with a big ass classic iconic sword, with a big titty gentle martial artist chick, a cute and spunky flower girl, a massive giga nigga with a gun arm and a red dog cat lion wizard something that looks cool. They all are recognizable as fuck, have their own personality, story arcs and even color schemes.
The soundtrack is recognizable and great, the setting is great, the story is great.

Noctis? pfff NOCPISS
Promto? *BRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAPPPPP* thats prompto
gladio or the other dude who cares
Luna? as relevant as the shit on the bottom of my shoe
Villain? who?


XV is boring, FF7re is the remake of one the most iconic and memorable games of all time. Your shit game is already forgotten while ff7 and 7r legacy will live on for years and years.

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>reference
its the same model retard

Who cares, chinks all look the same anyways

That topology is pretty standard. It's just the usual racoon eyes + mouth to nose zone.
It's stupid high poly given the final output though. A ton of that could be reduced.

Also, kinda grossed out by them having ALL the poles right on the edge of the face. They could have at least tucked those a bit further back.
Usually the best place to hide your poles is behind the ear. No one ever really focuses there.

who cares
im still buying it because it has ff7 in the name
it could be made by current bioware and ill still buy it
there is nothing stopping you from me buying the remake for ff7 Yas Forums, deal with it

anti fans should be culled

All anime characters look the same except with a different haircut, why is this an issue to weeaboos now?

Fascinating.
I care deeply about this and am also 100% mentally stable and not a total retard.

I know that gamers complain about a lot of stupid shit, but I especially don't care about this one.

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>FPS series uses the same reload animations for 12 years

TIL Nomura is the 3D modeler for FF7R

Who cares
Reusing old assets isn't a new concept

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Gamers have no idea how 3d modelling works these days.

whoa, it's almost like the anime aesthetic is famous for reusing faces and just changing up hair

nobody tells this guy about the bush and the cloud

>w-who cares if its an asset flip you are just a hater

who the fuck cares you autistic fuck

lol

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Doom Eternal is so good. wtf is Bethesda even doing? How can they fund this much talent into a studio but not for themselves?

Funny, I though Noctis looked a bit like Cloud when I played FF15.

Give me ONE reason why I should give a shit

To be fair standardizing the models is laziness so you can transfer your work to all characters. I do it on the indie game I'm making due to lack of resources. A proper company like Pixar makes every character by hand to capture the essence of that individual. The result is just better.

the consoomers itt are fucking embarrassing

Based Irish Autist

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NOOOOOOO BARRYBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY

I mean he's right. Games who talk about technical stuff are cringe

God Oney is so based.

>Twitter screencap thread

Delete this thread OP you know its the right thing to do.

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>A proper company like Pixar makes every character by hand to capture the essence of that individual.

are you literally blind and retarded?

Koei Tecmo have been doing this since the PS2 era.

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Ha ha. One anime boy looks exactly like another anime boy. Game ruined.

Imagine trying so hard just to stir shit up.

me you fat tranny fuck

Neat, don't see the issue.

final fantasy characters have minor anatomical differences, sephiroth and vincent have the same face, leon would share the same model too. in fact they all probably use the same "twink" base mesh they just tweak the proportions slightly. the art style let's them get away with it. its the hair, eyes and costume that distinguishes each character. the body and face are all sliders

I've literally had courses taught by Pixar artists, you're the one who doesn't know anything. Pixar characters have unique topology to support all the extreme expressions and shapes they have to hit on each shot. They follow guidelines of course but every Pixar main character is made from scratch.

>I don't know how character modelling for production works: the tweet

When it comes to humanoid characters i'd say 80-90% of the work I do and see is all from the same base mesh archetypes, the entire point of a good base mesh is you can sculpt whatever the fuck you want from it whilst saving yourself a weeks worth of work on every character, usually more.

If the base mesh gives you the desired end result and still has decent topology for skinning/animation, there's absolutely fucking nothing wrong with doing it.

probably because EVERY CHARACTER IS VASTLY DIFFERENT, USUALLY EVEN DIFFERENT SPECIES

noctis and cloud are both anime boys with spiky hair

also pixar makes fucking movies, not video games

>Dragon Ball Z's Android 17 and Dragon Quest's Luminary
No complaints
>Noctis from FFXV and Cloud from FF7R
Complaints

The difference is also that Pixar are strictly an animation studio, not a videogame developer. Equivalence is a thing.

If you hand-built every model in a videogame it would get extremely complicated. As with anything design, starting with a common base is a useful practice.

>this is their commission pricing
>xv mods
>person who is crying about this is literally just a salty xv-fag who downloaded blender and thinks their hot shit
lmao

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>A proper company like Pixar makes every character by hand to capture the essence of that individual

This is also an animation studio known for pushing the legal limits of a work environment. Ever heard of work smarter not harder? I can't understand why specifically gamers have such a problem understanding this concept. It's one of the reason I have been avoiding the gaming industry. I see it all the time when a bunch of retarded gamers make a big fucking deal out of something as common and mundane as using a stock photo on an insignificant asset.

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This is just like the resident evil 3 classic costumes

“Oh we could redo the costume from scratch but that would take to much work let’s just make it out of other content already in the game

wtf i hate remake now and i love xv thank you based barrykun or whatever the fuck your name is

What's wrong with that, really? Does he want them to make a whole new model from scratch just because, when the topology has to be the same anyway? Current gamers really have it good. They're so used to MUH GRAPHICS they don't see anything else.

Obviously there's no reason to believe the final Cloud model looking like it does is in no way related to reusing the model.

>This thread
IT'S OKAY IF IT'S NOT NINTENDO THAT DOES IT.

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>the entire point is ... saving work
>people are baffled by the SOULLESS meme

>blue and black lines never overlap
>same
big think

Its PRETTY MUCH Confirmed that Noctis is Cloud's ancestor and Reincarnation

Everything from FF15 fits with FF7's plot, its pretty much a prologue since lunafreya is Aeris previous reincarnation.

>saving work
Eat a bag of dicks, each of those characters still takes literally fucking thousands of man hours to produce by half a dozen artists.

If "soulless" is the measure of quick, dirty and reused art, then every old game that's ever been labeled as SOUL is the most soulless shit fucking imaginable because more time and energy has never been put into making vidya than it is at the moment.

6th gen I could pump out a AAA character solo in a matter of days, these days it takes a handful of artists WEEKS.

>he still buys japanese games because he thinks they're unique

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>This is also an animation studio known for pushing the legal limits of a work environment
Unequivocally based

Name 3

nobody cares if you reuse assets the issue with gamefreak is that they didnt reuse the assets people actually gave a shit about and then upcharged us

Toriyama also gets some flack for his sameface syndrome BUT he still has a very unique direction from all the other mangaka.

The reused meshes in S/S were fine as well. The problem was that the talking heads claimed they had to remake the meshes when they clearly didn't. They just threw their dev team under the bus to excuse a corporate decision to cut the mon.

The bigger issue with the Pokemon isn't their meshes anyways. It's their animations. They all need more animations to provide more variance. And a lot of the older mon need new ones to show their character more cause they were made back when GF first started 3D and floundered a lot and never updated them.

the VERSUS revenge is endless and will never die!

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>anime characters have sameface
who could have seen that coming........damn........

>take assets from a garbage game
>and turn them into a great game
Based Nomura

>In other news
>Continues with the same topic
this is why women shouldn't be allowed on the internet

i cant even imagine giving a fuck

stop shilling your twitter you insane buffon

You're telling me that Pixar used different meshes for all these vastly different characters?

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>you should make a basemesh from scratch every time you make a new character
are you dumb?