If Ellie has the gene that makes her immune to the infestation she could have potentially passed that on to her children and her children so on and so forth . But obviously they cant do that now cus they made her a lesbian so what the fuck was Naughty Dog thinking ?
If Ellie has the gene that makes her immune to the infestation she could have potentially passed that on to her...
ummm, bigoted and sexist much? she's an independent womyn and she can do whatever she wants, sithlord
This is indeed looks pretty absurd if you think about it, but apparently western "men" lost touch with human biology so much they see nothing wrong.
Isn't it sad how sjw matters so much? Western devs left and right are getting plagued with this shit. If you make a widely consumed piece of entertainment you now need to comply with sjws or get canceled.
It's weird that you're trying to approach this argument from an in-universe and a meta perspective at the same time. Like you're angry at the devs for dooming the virtual people.
Anyway, we don't know how her immunity works, so it's kinda moot.
Not OP but they will get around this by saying ingame the gene cant be passed on. Which in of itself is shit writing used to justify a political position. It doesnt matter what side the position is, its just shit writing because you're trying to make a point.
People in Africa literally breed with HIV resistant mothers to give their kids the gene. Its absurd to write a setting where people dont breed valuable immunities.
>Not OP but they will get around this by saying ingame the gene cant be passed on. Which in of itself is shit writing used to justify a political position.
What, the political position that the gene can't be passed on? I think the first game already established it was the fungus that had mutated, not Ellie.
>People in Africa literally breed with HIV resistant mothers to give their kids the gene
Isn't it pretty embarrassing than even groids in africa who know like 30 words and whose most advanced invention is a stick have intuitive understanding of inheritance and evolution, but Enlightened, Progressive söy human has not?
Hopefully they kill the dumb dyke bitch off. And her fucking big noses kike carpet muncher lover to.
I think it was the specific strain of the virus in her brain
Best thing is, the problem would have been moot if she was a male homosexual . Just give a Petri dish and ask for a sample.
Again, you're conflating in-universe and meta arguments
You're missing the message of the game, pal. The message is basically "fuck humanity, I do what I want". If you thought the interest of humanity was above the interest of any single man, Ellie should have sacrificed herself to make the cure, and Joel should have been fine with it. However the game repeatedly tells you that humanity is shit and isn't worth saving. The ending communicates this very strongly, but the fact that Ellie is a lesbo also reinforces the message. If you think about it, homosexuality is just about the biggest fuck you to humanity you can pull off save for literally genociding people. You take from humanity in the form of support, love and sex on part of your homo partner, but you aren't contributing to replenishing humanity via procreation, and not just by choice or by circumstance, like priests or infertile people, but by very definition of your orientation. You may or may not agree with this message yourself, but within the thematic framework of that game Ellie couldn't be anything but a lesbian.
She could choose her partners more scrupulously however so as not to offend our sense of esthetics, but that's just your typical subversion of beauty on part of the kike writer.
Feminine women are never actually lesbians
Ellies immunity comes from a freak mutation in the fungus on her brain, it can't be passed on
It has nothing to do with her genes
Are you retarded? Obviously it’s supposed to be a hard choice situation and the narrative chooses to let her live her life.
>However the game repeatedly tells you that humanity is shit and isn't worth saving.
Not exactly. Joel and Ellie find a home in the settlement led by Joel's brother. That's a positive.
I am also incredibly mad at the writers of Fallout for causing a nuclear holocaust to make a point
Dont remember clearly but even if that where the case dosent this fungus attach to the host and spreads? It wouldnt be wrong to think that to a point it may even alter the DNA of the host
>You take from humanity in the form of support, love and sex on part of your homo partner, but you aren't contributing to replenishing humanity via procreation, and not just by choice or by circumstance, like priests or infertile people, but by very definition of your orientation.
Which is also a circumstance. Wouldn't the choice of a priest be more selfish? But anyway, you're making the mistake of thinking "humanity" is just humans, when TLoU (and indeed most zombie fiction) makes a point that humans can be quite inhuman to each other. Ellie and her girlfriend affirm their humanity with their romantic relationship, which goes above and beyond an animalistic struggle for survival. Also, they contribute materially to their community because surprise, making new humans isn't the only way or even always the best way to contribute to "humanity".
its not about her living or becoming a human lab rat its more like how she does not have to die and also find a cure in the mean time.
just like how some stories choose to portray the human race as evils and dirty its exactly how TLOU tries to justify dooming the human race for personal happiness , it dosent sit right with many people
>making new humans isn't the only way or even always the best way to contribute to "humanity".
of course but it is the only way forward , you can build all you want if you do not create the next generation you are doomed
It's not the human race that's doomed. They're rebuilding.
So? They're not the only women in the world, you know.
thats besides the point . What I was trying to say in the initial post is that perhaps in Ellie's case to avoid all the tears and bloodshed it would have been best for her to pass her genes onto the next generation but devs had to make her a token LGBT figure in her story
But again see
how is it meta if she knows she is special and immune to the infestation already?
>devs had to make her a token LGBT figure in her story
Lefitsts always seem to flaunt how willing they are to doom mankind based on their 'values'.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T BE A LESBIAN AND DOOM HUMANITY TO DIE
that's literally part of why they would do that
That is genes tho
It's called criticism, when you are presented with a work of art you form an opinion on it. You must have some kind of mental disorder if you are incapable of comparing metaphors with real life.
Its pathetic and shameful. Perhaps its a metaphor for how these cretins view humanity. They'd throw it all away to elevate their precious woke bullshit. And some of these negro slave coons are in this thread right now. And no I won't reply to you savages. You are on a record pace to wind up back on a physical slave plantation because some of you are already there mentally.
well yeah, IRL she'd be strapped to a desk and be forced to breed annually until she hits menopause.
Nobody would give a shit about your lgbtq mental illness in a post apocalyptic scenario.
I'm pointing out that it's shit criticism because it approaches the work from contradictory angles simultaneously you plebeian.
to the user who recommended this, thank you.
I love starsector and this one is very similar.
Humanity is going to die unless you let a giant AIDS-infested horse-dicked gorilla violently cum in your arsehole. Are you willing to set your values aside to save mankind? You're not a leftist, are you?
Only in your retarded fanfiction.
>However the game repeatedly tells you that humanity is shit and isn't worth saving.
I wonder if game's creator made it with a same message if game's events were occurring in Israel and you were playing as goy shiksa.
No it doesn't retard, it was a straightforward critique of the game's main storyline. Fuck you stupid kids need to be in school right now.
people used to stone and burn gays for existing not even 100 years ago.
You're deluded if you think normal humans would let this shit slide without any legislation protecting you.
Even if her children got the right genes nothing useful would come out of it. Except that her children could not be worried about being bitten.
>right wingers can't distinguish between fiction and their IRL grievances
um yeah thats gonna be a major yikers from me dog
yeah bothing useful except a new generation of immune people who can also breed and pass it on
but YAASSS KWEEN carpet munching takes priority I guess.
As I recall she got infected by a benign mutation of the fungus and that is what prevents the zombie strain from taking root. All you would need is a sample of it from her brain or wherever else it grows.
This is the same series that wouldn't let you sacrifice one girl to save the world. Logic is already out the window.
The idea that society will gain immunity through passing on genetic immunity to offspring from one woman is retarded, that would take so many generations it's not even remotely feasible. You're better off expecting other people to develop the same genetic mutation Ellie the same way she does: completely at random.
Also, the idea of immunity at this point of the apocalypse being a big deal is stupid. It doesn't kill the infected that already exist, and in 90% of the cases that infected attack people, they very clearly do it to kill attacking in swarms, biting necks, generally taking out huge chunks of meat. If those people bleed out and die, they aren't even going to become infected, they're just dead. If you're immune, you're still going to die from having a bunch of zombies claw out your throat. There's not many situations where they get close enough to bite you and you somehow don't get overwhelmed soon after, but even then there's regular infections too.
TLOU does not condemn humanity, it condemns those who forsake their humanity. All those bandits you fight along the way, they view other people as mere instruments at best, for them to rob and rape, and in the end, the Fireflies too treat Ellie not as a person, but merely as a means to an end, and that is why they have to die. The way forward, the game says, is to recognise our shared humanity and build the future together.
Joel is an interesting case though because he has been on the "wrong" side and even proves that he is willing to torture bandits when looking for Ellie, essentially dehumanising them as well. I think his redemption arc is not so much for himself but in trying to create a better future for the next generation in which they won't be forced to do the things he did.
What a dumb brainlet.
You know that lesbians can still give birth, right
>No it doesn't retard, it was a straightforward critique of the game's main storyline.
No, it's not, and I did in fact already explain exactly what's flawed with it. You can't blame the character for the way she's written, and you can't blame the writer for something bad existing within the narrative. You can blame characters for their choices within the narrative and you can blame writers for how they portray things, but if you start to mix things you're hopelessly confused.
they need a dick to do that.
Also lesbians are the biggest demographic of child abusers
>It's a Yas Forums wants to be Christian ISIS episode
Doesn't mean shit. All the bitten will have died already by the time an actually significant number of people is born
nigger you just wrote a paragraph of meaningless nonsense.
Yes, cutting that child's brain open would surely make it capable to infinitely reproduce and pass on all her immunities. They totally have the means to do that in a post apocalyptic society without even the benefit of the internet to look shit up or any means of production.
biopsies are not that complicated, user.
is there a term for when right wingers pretend to give a shit about something out of fake concern? besides general bad faith i guess.
yup.
all you sexual degenerates will be hung, mark my words.
First-hand experience? You deserve it
it's called being President of the United States :)
>All you would need is a sample of it from her brain or wherever else it grows.
This shouldn't be something lethal or even dangerous because skull trepanation is common medical procedure. How exactly did they manage to flip it as a necessity to sacrifice?
Concern trolling, dumbazz.
no, statistics.
Children in lesbian care are the most likely to self-harm and be depressed, among other things.
Look it up, homosexuals are dangerous child abusers, this is common knowledge.
shut the hell up you embarrassing histrionic bitch boy
It's starting to infect Japanese devs now. Look at Square Enix and Capcom.
yeah so you get the good fungus and replicate it so everyone gets the good fungus instead of zombie fungus
I'm gonna piss on your corpse
>Naughty Dog ASSBLASTING and living rent free inside the head of Yas Forumstards and right wingers ONCE AGAIN
how do they do it?