I will now play your game

I will now play your game.

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You've got it all wrong, OP.

Software as a service exists for YOUR convenience. Why would you want a CONFUSING server browser, filled with insular players, instead of instant gratification?

Now pay up like a good little consoomer for your yearly installment and forget about anything you might have liked about last year's release, server hosting's expensive you know.

Your games wont be balanced if you go with the second option.

retard

>self administrated community servers
>get banned for literally no reason other than being good
>go to forum site filled with boomers and shitty, power abusing admins who take days to appeal it
>"Sorry, looks like you're cheating still. The ban will stay."

yeah no thanks

>Matchmaking and Lobbies
>get banned from entire game forever for saying no-no word or pissing someone off

No thanks

you can avoid saying the gamer word, you can't avoid insane power tripping autists wriggling into power on community servers

Then join another server, retard. The difference between power tripping autist in matchmaking lobbies and self hosted servers is that one bans you from a single server while the other bans you from the entire game.

>not going into private servers with the sole intent of pissing off the admins
>playing games with account-ban instead of IP-ban
doing it wrong

name a good game thats balanced

just stream/record some clips of you dabbing on boomers

why not just have both, they both have massive flaws

I also like stable and vanilla company servers.

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>official server matchmaking moderators arent power tripping autists
wrong

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t. never played on community hosted servers

name ONE game in the last 10 years

At least the second will HAVE games after the company ends support for it.

self hosted community servers by the company fall into the same category

>you can't avoid insane power tripping autists wriggling into power on community servers

Just go to another server stupid.

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Mordhau

>centrilized servers hosted by a single entity meant to cater to the entire playerbase
>cuts back to save every penny

>single server hosted by that one guy in your guild loaded on neet bucks
>LMAO lets see how high we can turn up the tick rate

Community servers have always been more stable

>chivalry 2.5
>balanced
>implying

Play Squad or Rising Storm 2, there are only community servers and it's fucking lovely
Lmao I can just tell you're a consolefag who has never played on a community server

>not wearing those bans as badges of honor

Guess how I know TF2 was your first online game.

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The only people in this list inconvenienced by modern game matchmaking are the bulldogs that have the skill of stoners/trolls/casuals

I'd argue that trolls still get the short end of the stick when it comes to more modern games where they didn't have time to develop a healthy goon population and culture before the matchmaking cancer set in. Even more so if the game attracts any of the league of leukemia type of sweaty tryhards that scream when they feel that someone is "throwing the game".

It doesn't help that modern games are designed where you're shackled to your team. Because god forbid we let good players shine.

Everyone is inconvenienced. Trolls get reported and banned for trolling each other for fun, casuals and hardcores alike get reported and banned for playing off meta for fun. No central communities or friendships are established around the game, only the cult of the brand™. With matchmaking, you are corralled like fucking cattle into a soulless funnel to stew like a pile of shit instead of becoming a regular with guaranteed likeminded people on a community server, ensuring no stable foundation except that which is decided by the committee of soulless engineering in the board room at pig inc. Matchmaking fosters stockholm syndrome and dehumanization at its core, which is why the people running such platforms are obsessed with a monopoly on control and moderation. I'm not a fucking bot that plays on a session by session basis. Emergent gameplay used to be the core of the online experience, now it's do as I say or don't play at all, and people are too stupid to do anything other than play what they're marketed anymore, which is matchmaking. Fuck you and fuck your stupid matchmaking stockholm syndrome afflicted commiteee engineered proto-matrix.

Who the fuck cares about trolls?

I'm pretty sure L4D2 has the second option and it fucking sucks.

Ha! good one!

Have you considered not playing assfaggots and if you must not in formats that enforce the meta

It's funny that a lot of the little idiosyncrasies matchmaking ends up making me play games less.

>wait longer to get into game
>wait longer for the next game to start
>usually can't choose what map I'm on
>have to wait for the players to come back because half the people always leave in between games

Like these motherfuckers spend god knows how many dollars and man hours to design the perfect tredmill of tailored experiences designed to keep you playing and buying loot crates, and they somehow managed to make everything worse. Even today if I play a community server game I have a much easier time sinking hour after hour into it because of the conveniences it brings.

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That's just because L4D sucks lol

Every player deserves their own server, only chaos and strife can come to our people when we mix the players.

Every single game that uses matchmaking is some variation of this soul destroying dehumanization, assfaggots or not. You can of course say things like oh no but there are community servers in matchmaking games like tf2 and csgo but that doesn't change the fact that the introduction of matchmaking to these franchises debilitated the health of the community servers that used to be the beating heart of online gaming, and not because matchmaking is better, but because of the marketing systems and social control afforded to these companies by the internet by sites such as twitch, r*ddit and games 'journalism' publishers

You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded

With a community server and server tools, a player with good know how can tweak the server as required, be it for fun or balance, based on the requirements and what the friendgroup has agreed on.

Matchmaking just means you get stuck with some idiot messing with a broken build and going 'no fun allowed'

I miss the wacky admin mod methods of punishing dumbasses. Vote kicking is fucking boring.

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One thing I noticed, during the beta of Dota and LoL the games were shot more relaxed, no meta established no items or exp to win, no fucking Rankin to lose.
During that time the matchmaking was very comfortable.
1000's of hours and global eSports phenomena later the only time I had this kind of fun in Dota was when I got into the low priority (you were naughty) queue.
No expectations no demands just trying to play the game and have fun. That was the moment I realised something had gone horrible wrong and quit.
Mind you I never played ranked queue because I liked to try stupid builds with Midas still got reported for it all the time.

imagine caring about balance on a full server

Matchmaking for competitive/ ranked gamemodes, community servers for everything else(except for maybe pick up games).

Every single time someone mentions user hosted servers you get these retards. Just join any other server? its not hard
lmao never mind, retard confirmed
User hosted servers with admins has no flaws other than the rare power tripping autist which can be avoided by just joining any other server

Ranked modes are pointless, they don't prove anything and are nothing more than a poorly disguised skinners box to keep the dumbasses playing. Adding them always hurts a game. Besides community servers already had the tendancy to segregate themselves out by skill plateaus.

Matchmaking in the long run means that if you solo queue you are gonna get teamed up with noobs or against Pro for the sake of the 50:50 win lose ratio.
In servers you could get your ass get handed to you then talk with that guy and learn a bit more. In MMR there's always the chance that the guy who seemed Pro just got lucky. Got fed, had a good or way worse in last hitting wise lane partner. Chances are you'll see that guy only once and then never again.

ranked and competitive modes can be achieved with community servers without fracturing the standard. Back in the day you actually had to sign up to play competitive on a locked server.

in fact most community servers back in the day had their own rankings that people used to have fun with. Clout actually meant something back then. Not like today where it's just soulless brand worship and attempted eceleb emulation

Don’t kid yourself you learn fuck all in community servers because the meta is to identify and farm the weakest link with scrubstomper strategies

you just described matchmaking

If you're not trying to learn you will never learn, how games are selected won't change that. The difference is with community servers I have an idea of what servers to play on to get a good window of skill to learn with. And not have some arbitrary system say "oh look he's lost a few times, let's put him up against a bunch of dumbasses just for the sake of maintaining the magic 50% number"

No, matchmaking at least attempts to put equal players together. Community servers there are MASSIVE skill differentials.

Speak for yourself, I spectated and copied alot from the top player's in rtcw et but also had tough as nails opponents to overcome.

>No, matchmaking at least attempts to put equal players together.

Older simpler point based matchmaking systems did, newer ones are all about maintaining a 50% win rate and are the reason why you can see massive swings in skill levels in between games. Modern matchmaking systems don't give a fuck about having the same skilled people fight each other.

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What does a 1v1 game have to do with

>No, matchmaking at least attempts to put equal players together
yeah smurfs dont exist at all and arent a well documented occurrence or anything

> Community servers there are MASSIVE skill differentials
t. never heard of team scramble or got good enough to troll or mitigate pubstompers in any way

Bullshit, game matchmaking is a scam to let people feel good and win every now and then, I've played a lot of destiny 2 and rainbow six siege and after a few losses all of a sudden I'm playing against buttfuck and the shitbird gang, EA even patented a system of matchmaking that would push people towards buying pay to win features.

>I'm playing against buttfuck and the shitbird gang
This is the type of dehumanization I'm talking about. Trained to have no respect for your teammates or opponents, but at the same time if you show disrespect you're not allowed to play anymore. Just a soulless barren desert of fucking nothingness.

I only have respect for my teammates if I know them, but most people I play with just seem to be bad, its a fault of people being carried through ranked.

People can't build relationships on trust and teamwork when they're quickfired through the matchmaking funnel like a bot session after session not knowing or remembering anyone they come into contact with. Most people are bad on community servers too, but you get to play with and against the same people and even teach them stuff and possibly learn from them. To learn stuff from matchmaking you basically have to go to soulless youtube thumbnail #2123215 or company r*ddit like the good corpocultist you are and read approved guides of soullessness.

Or you could learn organically from the strategies that consistently work against a large number of people and the ones that consistently work against you