Heroes is shit

Because all of those games before colors is kino you classicpedo.

Actually, Heroes is shit, sorry.

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What's with the influx you fags making Sonic threads defending the worst games? Is it because schools are closing for the next 2 weeks?

>Riders > ZG
You're wrong and should feel bad. Even the OST was better in the sequel.

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>NOOOOOOOOOO STOPPPPPPPPP YOU CAN'T TOPPLE MY REIGN OF BEING PANDERED TOOO!!!! NOOOOOO!!!!!!!! I NEED MY GREEN HIIILLLLLL ZOOOOONEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I'm sorry but it isnt so

I think the last Sonic game I played was Generations, have any of the games since then been any good? I used to love the series back in the day.

>it's been nearly a decade since Generations

Jesus fuck I feel old.

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Unleashed was pretty good though. Easily the prettiest game and the best boost game at least.
Secret Rings and Black Knight somehow has the best story but the WORSE gameplay. Sonic 06 plays better than them, because at least you can control the game regularly without waggling your wiimote all over the place like an autistic 5-year old who just discovered Wii Sports bowling

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I’m tired of playing modern sonic and getting yoinked into a bad and unfitting forced 2D sections where his physics don’t exactly work and it slows down all the way

Mania.

Retards who don't think Riders 1 & 2 are great need to kill themselves.

I liked 1 a lot more than 2, am I alone in this?

No but you sure are fucking wrong.

My top 3 sonic games are adventure 2, heroes, and unleashed.

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Heroes is shit all around and Advance has awful level design

>Unleashed
>Terrible

I've barely posted about Sonic at all you retard. I ask this, how has Sonic survived when he has consistently put out games with low ratings that don't churn out much profit whilst also being constantly made fun of at very turn?

Advance 2 is the most "hold right to win" Sonic. I still think it was fun though.

The fact that we have people on here young enough to think Heroes is good is proof that I'm too old to be on this site.

>I’ve barely posted
Wrong. You just replied with a post.

Just get rid of shadow and the series will get better.

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>Heroes
>fantastic
At what? It's incredibly slippery and has constant blockades with sub-par combat.

They're easy games, I don't feel like replaying a shit game for A ranks, they're dull and why should I play it when I could instead a competently made platformer instead? Kirby at least has a degree of quality control.

Rush isn't any better than decent. The soundtrack outside of the very final fight isn't worth remembering and all of the levels are dull (enemy rooms are retarded pointless blockades) and Rush Adventure is forgettable. In Rush a lot of the levels don't even feel like they have any kind of structure outside of zone 5 because so much of it is floating platforms of some kind while in something like Angel Island zone it has floating platforms but most of it still feels grounded.

Battle has sub-par gameplay and horrible shitty padding.

None of the stories are close to being strong enough to carry these games.

I wouldn't call Unleashed terrible, but it definitely suffers from most of the same bullshit that brings down the other mediocre games in the series like the Adventure games or Heroes. The Werehog and awful fucking padding really bring the whole game down.

Anyone who thinks Generations is anything less than good/great automatically has shit taste. Sorry pal

I like that there are still people who think he can be compared in any way to Mario. His golden classic era was extremely brief compared to the rest and there's even pople who debate if he was that great in the first place back then anyway, Mario has not only set standards for 3D gaming when he switched to 3D but even his most divisive games are not considered to be utterly godawful, and even shit like the NSMB series is just competently made but boring for non-casuals at worst.

Generation levels are too short and easy. It's more of a nostalgia tour than an actual game.

However, Generations with imported Unleashed/Colors levels is kino.

>HOW has Sonic survived for so fucking long without dying out completely?
It cannot be understated how good Sonic's design is. Easy to draw, easy to iterate on, incredibly easy to recognize. Top that off with a rebellious, carefree attitude that kids love and you get a character that will always be able to sell games. Most of them are garbage, but there are enough good ones for the fans to get hooked on.

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Werehog combat has even less depth than Oogie's Revenge, another shit game that was following an action game trend halfheartedly. The time between each fight segment hardly even justifies a battle theme because the music is in a constant state of getting interrupted, also said theme sucks.

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Advanced who is a good game the only part I don’t like are the fucking requirements you have to do to get into the special stage and the special stage themselves

sonic unleashed is literally one of the best games every made
this is one of the last sonic games where you could tell they put their heart and soul into it

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>Unleashed is terrible
>Battle is shit
>Generations is mediocre
Imagine having this bad taste

No heart and soul went into the werehog which was ultimately pointless anyway. Boosting is and always will be a shallow mechanic to base your gameplay on.

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Unleashed is shit.
Colors was far better.

At this point there has to be some sort of mandate that no new Sonic game is allowed to be better than any of the ones that were on Sega platforms. It’s clear that every new game is meant to be filler so the series doesn’t die, and Sega just gives it a boost every few years with bigger things like the Boom TV show and the movie.

Stopped taking your post seriously when you called Advance mediocre

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You are free to prove me wrong any time.

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Mania is just a fangame rehash

>heroes shit
no
>advance mediocre
hell no
>battle shit
oh hell no
>rush is just passable
debatable
>06 is an attrocity
of course
>riders had one good installment, everything else is bad and then outright unplayable
also debatable for zero gravity, not free riders though, game's shit
>sonic 1 gba
yes, it's shit, who cares anymore?
>Unleashed is terrible
yes, fuck Unleashed
>Rivals 1 and 2 are mediocre
haven't played them, though they seem like they lack any real physics based gameplay and are just a fun little distraction, so yet again debatable
>secret rings
is dogshit, yes
>black knight is dumpster fire
no, that one is actually fun
>colours is mediocre
it's below mediocre, it's boring as shit
>generations is mediocre
I mean, no, but genuinely debatable this time.
>lost world is shite
Lost world is just a mario game that Ninty gave to Sega for the Wii U agreement, prove me wrong. I'm not debating the quality, but the aesthetic was clearly influenced BY Nintendo itself.
>boom is fucking unplayable
yes siree, not just the wii u game, but the 3DS games are also boring as shit shovelware that lack any fun physics based gameplay OR overall fun stage design. Fire and Ice is one of the most boring and dull ideas this franchise has introduced.
>forces is fucking awful
I don't want to talk about it, I'm sick of talking about forces.
>how has he survived?
He hasn't, there's a difference between being alive and living. In conclusion, your post is bait, but yes, it's a suprise he's "alive". Also, no mention of Mania being a shitty rehash? Really insulting for OG fans like myself, I wanted a new game like the old ones, but instead I get to play the exact same games I played years ago.

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Then that doesn't bode well either.

It is not bait. It's a genuine question. Sonic's iconic image remains in hold despite all the incredible lows it has faced oh so consistently. No other series keeps their foothold after something like this while Sonic does.
Black Knight has some of the worst motion controls on the Wii and Heroes really is shit, what is there to defend about its gameplay?

Good character design. A first in many areas. Pushed hard by sega.

Think the Garfield of gaming.

I dunno, I like Heroes. I like how it actually has you control your character in three dimensions, unlike half of the whole series, excluding 2D games and sections infact. I liked the open ended level design and it was just quite fun. The story's dogshit though, I hate how Metal and Mecha switched personalities, and no I don't even watch SMBZ, he was just always the renegade, before Metal stole that role.
Black Knight is quite fun too, with the combat being quite fun and the story being written by one of the only confident writters in the series, you know, the one able to try new things in his stories, not to mention the one who takes his work seriously. Oh and the OST is pretty fucking cool too, but hey, it's not for everyone I guess, maybe it's just my medieval sword kink.

>talking shit about Hideki Naganuma’s tracks
Awful taste

Rent free.

>colours levels are better than generations levels

There's only so many "dude Sonic was NEVER good lmao" jokes people can make before it gets boring.

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>It's mediocre at worst
>Advance 1 is good, other 2 are mediocre
>I guess
>Fuck you
>It's fine
>Agreed
>First was good, Second was Better, 3rd was worse than 06
>Agreed
>Both versions of Unleashed were fine. Wii was probably better though
>Sadly Agreed
>Agreed
>It's better than Secret Rings at least
>I suppose.
>I guess.
>No the worst part is it is playable. It's too bad to be good, but not bad enough to be fun after the patches.
>It's mediocre at worst.

>Mania is a shitty rehash
Agreed! Should've been all-new levels.

Still better than post PS1 Crash and Spyro tho. Even Heroes was a better multiplatform debut than Wrath of Cortex and Enter the Dragonfly.

It's his design, that's it. I bet most of the people in this thread would not give a single shit about Sonic if not for that, since he'd probably have been a long dead franchise by now.

Sonic was good, but only after the shitty genesis games were over

I agree with this, not just sonic but sonic girls too
They have some the strongest designs and artstyle ever, it is no wonder it caused to many teens to become autistic furries
I find myself obsessed with these designs and faces, they are so perfect
Maybe its just the eyes

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>You being bad at Heroes
Are you kidding me? There's nothing mechanically satisfying or skillful about Heroes to claim that anyone criticizing it is just "bad" at it.

Why is Lost Worlds so aggressively bad? That shit is 90% tepid and janky 2D sections aping New Super Mario Bros. games. Is this Kishimoto's doing? Every Sonic game that fag works on has this same problem.