He's basically useless once he joins you

Robo shits damage and pisses penicillin, he's one of the best tanks AND healers. Crono/Robo/Ayla are a neutron bomb in 16 bits.

This. Best team comp

based

The DS version reactivates the Gulie is Magus plotline.

So are you saying getting brain damage makes you a Chad?

Yeah I always liked to believe that too but Guile is sorta irrelevant as cool and mysterious as he is
Yes sir Serge was Chad ngl literally btfoed everyone in Trigger without even knowing

>Feed him some speed tabs

So he's shit then? Glad we are in agreement.

Who cares, CT is so easy, you can use any party members comfortably

He's still 2nd best even without the speed tabs

This is the casual opinion. You have to realize that his spell names are lies (they're not the same spells, they're significantly stronger), making him both the strongest Water user AND the strongest Shadow user, and that with the exception of Lifeline, 3 top-level single techs will always outdamage triple techs, or more likely 1 single and 1 dual tech per turn - which can just be 2 others and Magus. The weakness doesn't exist.

He also has the most elemental flexibility of the entire cast, which matters a lot.

>Lucca
>good
She's good for a bit early game and is good again at the end if you can get Wondershot on her but sucks a ton during a vast majority of the game
>Frog
>good
Frog is one of my favorite video game characters of all time but he's easily one of, if not the, worst characters in the game. Dude is outclassed by nearly everyone

>ROBO
>OUTCLASSED
Is this a joke post? The only significant balance issue of the entire game is Robo outclassing the SHIT out of everyone. Frog in particular gets absolutely fucked because Robo does everything he does better and winds up just the 4th best physical attacker in a 3-person-party-selection game, even though that's his main focus.

Physical damage dealers? Where's your Crisis Arm, bitch boys? Even when Ayla has reached 99 (you know, when party selection is utterly meaningless and you can't possibly still be having fun) she won't average more damage than Robo with the Crisis Arm using Uzzi Punch.
Healers? Marle doesn't have multi-target healing AT ALL and Frog's is much weaker than Heal Beam.
Magic damage? His top-end techs, Shock and Area Bomb, are actually competitive with the likes of Flare and Dark Matter if you give him Magic Tabs, and hit two different elements because of course Robo gets to be special.
He also has the highest HP and is part of the best triple tech, Lifeline, which matters in a LLG, and Omega Flare, which matters in another type of challenge run as well.

Robo is bullshit in every respect. His starting Speed is low, that's all. Defeating Atropos gives him permanent +3 speed and +10 mdef. Robo is just far and away the best.

He pairs pretty well with Luca

You guys need this. Learn the game a little, understand what's important. Flexibility is just as important as power in character selection. There are literally enemies Lucca has fucking nothing to do against because she does ONE THING and if it's not the right thing she's sitting bored praying for Wondershots. Not that it makes her the worst character, but just as an example to broaden your understanding here.

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Based Robo. I know people like to use Lucca as well because of their double tech but fuck her. It's always Robo and Ayla for me.

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>Marle haste
>Good
Stopped reading there, you're shit at the game.

Also Speed absolutely does not matter as a character balance point. There are Speed Tabs and there is a very low cap of 16 Speed that you can reach with ease in a playthrough. It's mostly just convenient that Crono, Ayla and Magus have high starting speeds, it doesn't change much.

It's not the optimal team but I like to go with Chrono, Frog, and Robo

All of them can hit hard, you've got redundant healing, and between the 3 of them they cover all elements

>Min maxing in fucking chrono trigger off all games
I hope you niggers are play some ultra everything is 10* harder romhack because 8 year old me beat this game with little difficulty just picking the characters I liked and not a lick of planning.

This was made after the DS version release made Master's Crowns viable. Look the item up moron. It stacks with Sun Shades and Prism Spectacles.

Despite the lack of combo techs with the rest of the cast, I always had him in my main squad. I was a kid and it was really cool to have your former enemy as your ally, and if I replayed the game again today, I'd probably still fight with him at my side. That final battle against Lavos just wouldn't be right without him.

youtube.com/watch?v=_nVGW4fZz_o

Haste is useless even in the DS version because it still has the same shitty drawbacks: single target, runs out way too fast, and you're stuck with essentially only two party members. Marle is literally worthless and only retards cast haste.

>not playing the Playstation version

You don't get an opinion.

Dark Matter is awesome, and does decent enough damage to be useful through the whole game.
Besides he's the reap main character.

I use Crono, Robo and Ayla because I liked robots a lot when I was younger and I use Ayla because she gave me a boner.

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She's not literally worthless, Lifeline is mandatory in a LLG and cakewalks the game outside of that, being the best triple tech, and all she has to do is pull the weight of 50% of one party member with Crowns boosting the other two by 25%. By the way, Haste Helms don't actually start speeding any given character up until after their first action, in case you're overprioritizing those.
This had better be a fucking joke, holy SHIT user

The only thing I have to complain about is frog's heals are as good as robo's with magic tabs, which is what the chart is advocating. Powered up masamune also allows him to keep up damage with the rest of them, though he still only has water element. Not sure why they gave him Cure 2.

You could have said SNES to not sound crazy.

>being a version elitist for literally the worst version of the game

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Heal's multiplier is 6. Heal Beam's is 10. I forget who has better magic without the tabs, but tabbed-up like we're talking about, Robo's is definitely better.

I just checked their stat charts and basically Robo is behind Frog by 3 stat points at all levels in Magic. They both have very low amounts in that stat without Tabs, really. Frog's Heal would only be stronger if they were at level 4 or lower, which isn't even possible for them to be available. The only way to make Heal stronger is to give Frog lots of Magic Tabs and Robo none. And since healing techs are a straight multiplier between the tech's power and the Magic stat, Frog would need a LOT of tabs to keep ahead suffering a 6:10 ratio on returns.

Let's ask the real question. Who won?

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Not your aspect ratio, that's for sure.

I've beaten the game every playthrough just fine as Crono, Robo, Magus. Ayla for stealing shit prior to getting Magus and while in the flying fortress.

Please user. It's just a hasty crop for the sake of facilitating discussion.

Why did both of the Water characters have to fucking suck at offensive magic? I can't believe Magus is better than them just by having better fake "Ice 2".

Not sure why people obsess over character tiers for an easy game.

I know I'm just giving you a hard time for no reason. And potentially trying to spark discussion of the fact that some SNES games really were made with the intent to be stretched to 4:3 on regular TV displays, like Chrono Trigger, while others like Yoshi's Island and SM either thought that the games were being displayed at the 8:7 system output ratio or didn't think about the difference at all.

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the moon isn't even round anyway, and optical illusion and a conspiracy

bottom is most accurate

Fucking this bro

yeah but ayla crits

Ayla's more important for steals than anything.

So which version should I play? Emulate snes, ds on my 3ds or android?

SNES with translation patch. The DS endgame stuff is all boring garbage.

>caring about optimal teams in chrono trigger
>using tabs in chrono trigger
wat
just use characters you like
or better yet, use everybody occasionally

>not dominating an easy game to the best of your ability
It's not like you have anything else to do.

Who cares, game is piss easy with any party

How? He's got some killer AOE attacks

I get the impression people get soured on him because the next couple bosses are Lavos Spawn, the literal only enemy that gives Magus a hard time. But it's not like you would lose those fights even if you take Magus Lucca and Marle, so it's a pretty minor gripe.

So what's the worst team? Frog, Lucca, Marle?

in terms of damage output? yeah probably. though I feel ayla doesn't tech very well with frog or marle so putting her on the team also weakens her too.

Chrono Trigger is one of the easiest JRPGs I've ever played, I really don't think who you use matters.