Why NCR traders use brahmin, why no cars or even motorcycles?

fallout 2 literally had only one car that was usable throughout the game, everyone is using carts and shit

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So cars?

Are you fucking retards stupid? Don't you know how much maintenance roads need? Maybe it is because you idiots live in America or West Europe, but here in Russia it is fucking impossible to fucking drives because of all the fucking potholes

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Nah, it's easy.

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Ban all ESL faggots.

>Gamebryo
There weren't any in the original because the maps weren't big enough to justify it, there aren't any in the modern ones because the piece of shit engine isn't capable.

is this actually used somewhere in fallout??

yeah, theres some train that you use in the broken steel DLC in fallout 3 in a metro somewhere
i think i more recent example is some mod for new vegas that adds drivable vehicles that are propelled by mini explosions or whatever

Yep, invisible man wears it as a hat and runs at high speed, pretty good engine when that is how vehicles have to work.

It has been hundreds of years, I would imagine most HEVs are used by the military.

Why not bicycles? No, really. They're the best vehicle for the post-apocalyptic wasteland. They don't need fuel, they're easy to maintain and repair, and they're fast.

>they're easy to maintain and repair

only when new parts are easily purchased. who do you think is making new rubber tires in new vegas?

How would you transport goods with a bicycle?

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Carefully

>i think i more recent example is some mod for new vegas that adds drivable vehicles that are propelled by mini explosions or whatever

Silly user that's how cars actually work

Your countrymen sure doing alright and aren’t complaining about some potholes.

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They just crashed the oil markets so not for long!

There's got to be tons of abandoned bikes lying around, scavenge for parts or just find one that still works and ditch the broken one. It's still easier than fixing a car.

Bike bag, or it what you're transporting is too big, a bunch of people on bikes pulling a cart.

Cars require maintenance and fuel. There is a reason why humans used animals for 10000 years.

mate no one's using cars either for the same reason

after hundreds of years rubber tires would have completely dried out and gone to shit. no one is harvesting latex from the trees of africa to make new ones

I wonder if anyone even bothered to nuke Africa

They just starved.

In a normal post apocalyptic setting it would make sense since you need gas and a whole shitton of infrastructure to make gas to use cars. But in fallout with magical nuclear power and perpetually working robots, it's just bethesda being unable to make cars work.

Motor vehicles are supposedly being used in the heartland of the NCR but the mojave is basically the frontier. The roads are shit and animals are far, far easier to maintain than a fucking car. We see that the NCR military has a working metro between their base and Vegas and the president has a vertibird, so these things are kinda only restricted to people who have the resources to maintain them.

Check out the Ho Chi Minh trail.

Obsidian could at least have mentioned it in NPC dialogues that traders coming in from NCR territory sometimes used trucks, or make a static model of a working car to be stuck in the mojave outpost.
High costs of gasoline would make a good excuse to why traders would travel by car on long distances, like from california to nevada, but would use brahmin for small travels and local business.

What post apocalyptic settings always get wrong is how fast things decay. After 200 years if its not made of concrete its gone.

Even if all reactors have a half-life of 50 years and are dead steam would make a huge comeback.
>can be produced from common salvage
>can be fueled by anything that burns
>can be designed / repaired by many people with mechanical understanding

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Not really, I have been to a town abandon about 200 years ago and while there aren't buildings there are timbers that can be recognized. Modern building materials will last better than untreated wood.

couldn't NCR pave some roads?
I mean, they can build railroads and maintain fucntioning quarry and the dam

Why not use railways?

I lived in Liberia for a few years and they didn't even have roads, just mud trails through the jungle where people drove their trucks through

During the rainy season entire areas could flood and people STILL forced their cars through. And these weren't land rover/jeeps/military vehicles, these were shitty european used cars with seats missing and no windshields. They'd load those fuckers up a mile high with cargo and people, then when the car inevitably broke down or got stuck everyone just got out and pushed.

Even as awful as that was, it was STILL a more efficient way to move people and cargo than using animals.

I know what you mean, its the same where I live. But what about cobbled roads? Romans built them millenia ago and some are still there in usable condition.
I'm sure the NCR could build some cobbled highways connecting their territories. better then paving since it doesn't need oil.

They have a monorail and the Powder Gangers were under NCR direction to do exactly that

They could, but they're busy getting ass-pounded by the Legion, Fiends, Powderfags, etc. every time they go outside. I'd assume that if NCR won they'd improve the roads to/around Vegas

The hard part about cars is the fuel but after 200 years I would be amazed if ethanol / biodiesel wasn't produced near cities.

Doesn't the NCR air base have a bunch of fine-condition trucks outside?

You ever seen what a classical American land barge with soft, long travel suspension and thick sidewalls can handle? Shitty roads are nothing.

Most roads are shit

Look, 90% of survival is using what you have to get what you need, if you use your head you could probably figure out a solution.

As a kid I took one of these offroading all the time, it never gave a fuck.

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i didn't mean in vegas per si, since Nevada isn't officially NCR territory yet. But what about California and their other core territories? It sure would be a good to build some highways, even if cobbled instead of paved, to connect those regions.

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Why the fuck were you lving in liberia my dude?
Are they finaly managing to rebuild something after the civil war?

They probably do have some proper roads there by the time of NV

The retards of fallout cant even be assed to pick up a 200 year old pile of trash in front of their homes.

I remember reading somewhere that the NCR is basically Pre-War in terms of technology and comfort of living. Is that true?

yeah the solution is to use animals, which is way, way way easier

it's not to scavenge an old world vehicle at great personal risk that will probably not work and even if it does, not for a long time

Animals require maintenance and fuel too.

Mostly, yes.
In their core territories they've basicaly ended raider gangs, roads are safe and towns and cities prosper with people enjoying pretty good standards of living being, at minimum, above simply subsistence. They have electricity and most bigger towns and cities also flowing water. NCR holds a lot of arable land and large brahmin herds, allowing people to just buy food instead of everyone needing to somehow plant or herd something. NCR even has some kind of healthcare.

peace corps

it's still a huge mess, ebola actually did the country a favor since it brought in so much money

Mafia or Chechens

That trader at the 188 also has a truck with her stuff on it.