Former NaughtyDog animator claims the studio is mistreating their employees for TLoU2
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no one cared when epic was revealed to be treating it's employees like shit, no one is gonna care here.
ok now i will become a social justice warrior
>Hire SJWs
>They throw you under the bus
Wow Im so surprised
no wonder their "games" are boring cinematic shit
Making games into movies was a mistake. They've become more expensive and difficult to develop and the final product is shit.
>prioritize talent retention
?
I don't care, I just want the game to sell well and get a good metacritic score, Sony WILL win
>no one cared when epic was revealed to be treating it's employees like shit
of coruse 10 year old fortnite players wouldn't give a shit about it
You guys dont even know what you're fucking whining about anymore
Brainlet
sound slike nonsense.
Software generally works around crunch. People baw about it, but they are paid well.
Apparently they're hiring mostly junior animators to crunch the shit out of the game and because they don't have much experience TLoU2 is taking ND a lot longer to make.
That shift jew address this?
to give some good reason for the wagies to not fuck off
Naughty dog's audience is 50% frothing at the mouth sjws 50% normie retards
Pretty sure it's illegal to work them like that and not pay them. It's essentially slavery.
Wait. You're saying they are paid? And quite well? And they have incredible job security over that term?
Shut the fuck up, you whiney kike.
i really really hope this game is a failure.
I dont know how these guys do it honestly. I've only had 52 hour work weeks these past few months and I want to fucking due eventhough my job is easy.
Good. I hope they get treated like slaves, what do I fucking care. I'm fucking tired of this constant bitching and whining, they're grown people who go working in this industry voluntary.
>We don't use the word "FUN"
they allow to be mistreated, i don't see why not just give up and get another job
>I don't use the word "buy"
So? They don’t give a shit as long as the product contains gay women of color
Where do you think we are?
Somebody from Israel abusing people and making use of slave labor?
Why user stop it with that antisemitism.
desu none of this is surprising because their games speak out for things being just like this
Are you niggers only just waking up to the fact that major studios only ever hire devs for 2-4 years before firing them when they're all used up?
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LOL. ND confirmed for being incompetent.
Sjws care a lot. I question is will the shofty ass jurnos turn on their holden child dev
Are game funders and project leaders aware it's making their games shittier and more expensive?
found the assblasted tranny.... Get the fuck back to retardera.
>desk job making literal toys
>hard
He should be happy that they arent like the chinese and steal your organs for doing a shit job.
Am I supposed to care about wagies?
The difference between Naughty Dog crunch and Rockstar crunch is that in the latter you can actually see some neat, unbelievably polished things in the actual gameplay that make you go "wow, this game was really made with that much detail"
With Naughty Dog it's some retarded garbage designed for hyperautist Youtubers to analyze and make videos like "top 10 INSANE details inside the zombie penis bulges in TLOU2 (at night)" while the actual core game is just another cinematic nearly on-rails experience
Seems like he knows exactly what he's talking about.
hahahahahahahah!!! Lets all laugh at this SJW dev!
weird cope
And do what? Run a story nobody cares about so they can keep losing viewers
I hope Haida hooks up with Fenneko in season 3.
ND's games are a misguided attempts at making interactive movies when really they create bad linear experiences that are bogged-down by slow shallow gameplay which is yet another failed attempt at mimicking some sense of reality or "movie reality".
I wish these companies quit it with wasting millions of dollars on boring ""experiences"" and actually explored some cool gameplay ideas of any kind.
For you.
you can't do diversity hiring and also retain talent at the same time. It seems like ND's going through the same shit as Bioware.
That's probably giving too much credit to ND's modelers/animators. More likely there's just a lot of animations and all sort of visuals that need cleaning up because person initially making them didn't understand why it'd look like shit the way they first did it.
That's exactly the sort of "polish" that can take a lot of time but shows relatively little results.
resetera trannies are in ruins at the fact that their favorite developers turned out like this
These stories last loke a week and then no one cares after that and the company never faces any consequences. Remember the Rockstar and NetherRealm poor working conditions stories? No one cares about thise anymore
Are game developers the biggest fucking pussies ever? How do you fuck up sitting at a computer. I'd treat them like disposable tissues as well given the chance if they acted like that. You're supposed to be well adjusted shut-ins, nerds, losers with no social life.
Go get a normal fucking job if you want to be a fucking normie.
exactly.
Hold up. I haven't seen Season 2 yet, but I would assume he would get his Retsuko after how season 1 ended.
>Spend most of your time on Reddit, Tumbler, ResetEra, Twitter, etc.
>Spend maybe 2 hours animating
>Deadlines are coming up
>”NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! WHY ARE THEY MAKING ME CRUNCH? THIS ISN’T FAIR! THIS IS JUST LIKE THOSE COALMINERS THAT DIED OVER HUNDRED YEARS AGO!”
The truth is no one on the player side of things cares. If a game has the chance of being 1% better if it's developers do crunch time, most people would take it because it doesn't affect them at all, and they as user's can only win. Now I don't give a damn about TLoU but I'm still holding to that sliver of hope of CP77 being good. CDPR have been criticized before about crunch, but I know that if it would help make the final product that'll remain there for the rest of history, I'll take it
This guy's right, lack of talent retention is the reason games are buggy fucking messes. A good example is how bad Mass Effect got when all their talent left.
10 year old mentality wont make a difference also
>You're supposed to be well adjusted shut-ins, nerds, losers with no social life.
this would be true if HR wasnt a thing and high functioning turboautists weren't turned away at the door
You’re legitimately retarded if you’re even considering that as a possibility.
>virtue signal with leftism 24/7 in things you publish
>treat your employees like dogshit slaves
mass effect was never good to begin with
Shit man season 2 came out a while ago. Sorry but you'll have to watch and see how it plays out. I went from wanting him and Retsuko to hook up to finding her to be kind of a bitch.
Rockstar also take like over 10 years per game....
History repeats itself
When was last time you played ME1 and 2? They weren't masterpieces.
>There's a resetera thread where they're having a meltdown because of this guy and trying their best to damage control Naughty Dog
Its hilarious to see them looking desperately into this guys history to cancel him only to find out he's very legit ,talented and experienced
Everyone here knows that ND are talentless hacks that coast on sony money. Same with the guys who make the killzone games.
Is that why all their games sell a fuckton, win GOTY every time are critically acclaimed by fans and game journos, shaped the industry and all that shit? Because they are shit games, am I rite?
It's funny how he says "game" will have top tier animations. that's all ND games are known for these days since their gameplay is trash
>I am just now coming out because the naughty dog hate bandwagon rolled by
Cry more, bitch boi
These people are such fucking pussies. I love working. I work overtime any chance I get.
>they literally stopped employing game animators and started using film animators instead
The memes write themselves. Naughty Soi is a fucking joke, the worst fucking cancer on the industry along with the Snoy cancer that funds them.
>MUH CRUNCH
Change career
why? Because it wasn't made by a nip?
Maybe a bad example, the point was the drop in quality was evident. It's why any company bought by EA implodes, they demand more for less and all the people who are actually good at what they do fuck off.
>shaped the industry
Has Naughty Dog actually put out a game that wasn't basically just a more polished copy of something else?
I don't even know anymore
>MUH CRUNCH MUH CRUNCH MUH CRUNCH
This is why China and India are destroying American manufacturing.
It's like you have to work to get paid.
why are game devs such whiny faggots? i work in the film industry where we have 5am - 11pm days where we carry huge as fuck stands and lights and camera equipment in all kinds of environments and you never hear anyone complain
And they destroy the entire industry each time they release one, no publisher other than Rockstar can claim to just ignore Call of Duty but GTAIV, GTAV, and RDR2 have done just that
americans are mentally ill, they even shittalk japs for this exact same reason
holy shit, that's fucking SAVAGE.
he ripped those faggots apart and basically called the upper fags like Druckmann&Co. incompetent shits who only run the show on nepotism and Twitter brownie points instead of actually talented people.
Yes.
What a bunch of limp wristed faggots
Help I work on computers all day and need to be hospitalized!
>braindead consumers love movie games and are easily emotionally manipulated
>game journos are failures working on a job they hate and human propaganda towers
>the industry is incestious and creatively bankrupt
>why do shit games pandering to these groups do well
>Druckmann gives us ludo AND he overworks shitty sjw devs
Um, excuse but based as fuck. Pre order confirmed.
>Just throw yourself off a roof, bro!
Kys bootlicker
Because physical work and mental work are different beasts. You quickly hit a point of diminishing returns with the creative work gamedev requires.
Literally every job has crunch. Get over yourselves, you damn snow flakes.
>WORK IS TOO HARD
SH would have been a better example. The 360/PS3 games look worse than the fucking ps2/xbox games.
I don't care.
Slavery is how you create great things.
The pyramids wouldn't have been built without slaves. Just become a landlord if you don't like it and stop being terrified of taking on debt.
I love how entitled-ass commiefornians dare to believe they can manage the same work ethic as hivemind japs who'd rather sleep under their desk than go home to their wife and kids
you're fucking retarded, I'd tell you to go hang yourself right now but I'm pretty sure you'd be too incompetent to even do that
western gaming are full of sjw, and I mean really hateful sjws, who are ok with censorship of things and opinions that they don`t like, celebrate policies and company decisions that discriminate against white men and who want white people to go extinct and European culture to be destroyed.
I really find it hard to feel bad for people like this.
>white male
ummm no sweetie don't think so
>sit at a desk all day clicking
>this is apparently tiring
ok
you wouldn't understand, since you are a beast of burden. Im just kidding man.
ND died with Uncharted.
and that's why realistic graphics and focus on cinematic experience are cancer
keeping good employees instead of grinding them up until they wash out
this implies, of course, that they have any employees worth keeping instead of just hiring as many cheap bodies as they need
>shaped the industry and all that shit? Because they are shit games, am I rite?
How? If anything they're derivative as fuck, I can't think of any game that takes inspiration from them let alone the industry.
Their successes are primarily them playing it safe and taking ideas from everyone else and appealing to the lowest common denominator.
I am not denying their successes but their games are tailor-made for game journos who need to poop out a review fast and can't be asked to play anything requiring an actual skill to be learned.
Aggretsuko is made specifically for wine aunts and pompous lonely women who whine about not being able to find 'that guy'. Haida will be tied down with her at the end of the story, I assure you.
what game isn't a more polished thing of something? Isn't the Nu-Tomb Raider just a poor man's Uncharted? Or the last Zelda game just an inferior AssCreed game?
>tfw you spend an extra hour at the computer and need weeks to recover
lmao
holy fuck I can't get over it
fire every one of these limp wrist losers
Correct.
Good,they deserve it for making boring movie games.
stress is stress, no matter if you get it physically or mentally
>that last tweet
considering that ND and Sony are ultra sjws, I bet like 50% of the staff only got their job thanks to their vagina or black skin instead of merit.
Hit a nerve you desk monkey? Do real work once in a while.
Millennials are lazy. More at 5.
It amuses me they work so hard to create boring walking simulators
Guaranteed the sputtering Sonytards defending crunch would be singing a different tune if it was revealed that Nintendo games were made with crunch?
Actually, why HASN'T that been revealed yet? BOTW is categorically the most successful game of the generation by far. However the only result for BOTW and crunch is a dev talking about how they DIDN'T crunch for it. How are Naughty Dog crunching so hard only to produce vastly inferior products?
>Their reputation for crunch within LA
>actual cabal of woke sissy devs fellating one another in one of america's defacto leftist shitholes
I love how, despite the absolute control they have over the narrative, they STILL can't help but trickle bits of the truth in their innane rumblings.
I'm not a tranny, how am I supposed to read this mishmashed Twitter bullshit?
user then games wouldn't get made and you wouldn't have anything to winge about