You niggers will argue over everything

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I actually like grinding, it's relaxing

Grinding is comfy

I mean you’re not wrong
Literally any SMT game falls in this category

I don't mind if there's enough to explore on the map to find all the hidden chests or whatever
But if it's just walking back and forth in one spot for multiple levels over a long time, I'm not a fan

If its fun action combat then its fine. If the grinding is an hour of turn based combat where you just press the basic attack button and the enemies have no chance of ever defeating you then thats absolute garbage

I typically don't mind grinding if it's something optional.

I think a good example is FFV. If you build your party around 4 jobs but then want to switch, you're gonna want to grind a little bit to try out the new jobs. AP rubberbands so you typically get your jobs up to a decent level kinda quickly if you're far enough in.
This is okay in my book because you're grinding to get something new, something you the player opted to strive for.

as long as it isn't too tedious, or the grinding itself is fun

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Grinding is the best part of it.

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