Why was he so progressive?

not sure what you mean by this.

And he died like a dog.

>Muh globalisashun! Building cities and railways is the fault of kikes!

>dude everyone in the past was racist just like me lmao

wish i had more options to make fun of niggers and spics. i love giving them a good kick in the face after shoving their filthy asses on the floor

Why does it feel so much less natural than the first game? John wasn't racist but he also didn't seem like a pandering bitchboy

we will all die like dogs, friend

Why do people like him, all he does is whine and acts as if his holding himself back from beating the living shit out of almost anyone he talks to.

Absolutely nobody will say we weren't better off without those things, and for good reason. Corporatism was a mistake.

>Bro I'm Nazi death squad in Vidya games lol so based

nah, he is a good guy

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>not liking niggers and spics
>being a nazi

takes little more to be a nazi than that i guess bro, but nazi became a buzzword these days

not even gonna give any coping non-white subhumans ITT a (you)
arthur being woke is so fucking disgusting and out of place that I had to play music over dialogue and mostly just shot up niggers for fun, compared to RDR1 where I cared what John did

Arthur is what you make him. For me personally, I took Arthur around St Denis and elsewhere lynching every minority with my lasso or otherwise burning and killing them all. Arthur is a horrific racist in my RDR2. I'm not, but Arthur is, because I decided he was going to be.

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based

off the top of your head, name ONE (1) Western where the protag mingles with niggers

go on

Unforgiven, the best Western.

Well it was at like the end of the western era so idk, btw OP here

I feel like all Micah wanted was to be accepted by Arthur but since Arthur kept shitting on him Micah just said fuck it.

>Personal freedom
>Recognizing that races tend to be different

These ideas do not conflict with each other at all. Anyways the primary American virtue has always been 'Meritocracy First'. Things like personal freedom and individualism were always secondary it this.

ahahahahahaahahahahahahahaahahaHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

when your "western" has a uncle tom nigger like morgan freeman, all I'm gonna do is laugh at you

I don't get it, your problem with the this character is that he didn't hate black people?

Blazing saddles

Arthur is purely a " Do whatever you want except fuck with me." Character.

I'll do one better. Django unchained. The protag is the black man.

Does it make you seethe?

>RDR2 takes place in 1894 or whatever
>NO ONE says nigger, not even Micah who is supposed to be super racist

false, all micah wanted was to reap some rewards but arthur saw his schtick from a mile away, so he tried to win him over by offering friendship to see if he'd stop being a thorn up his ass, but arthur knew what was what and refused him, at a certain point micah takes advantage of the whole rat thing in the group and dutch's paranoia to point some fingers at arthur since he was one of the few that saw micah for the rat he was

But I'm not into jewish cuckporn m'nigger and personally I think there's nothing more hilarious than jewas pandering to literal subhumans that they used to whip into shape at plantations

DID YOU JUST DISAGREE WITH ME? FUCKING NAZI!!!!

Django unchained is justice porn for kikes, just like Inglourious Basterds

they even had a guy say nigger in GTAIV. Rockstar really lost their nerve

It makes sense for Arthur to have more progressive views because he grew up with outlaws, many of which are prostitutes and minorities. He even tells the jew to fuck off from the gang, which was pretty realistic.

He's anti-establishment basically.

>it makes sense for him to be politically correct because he's bad

There is just nothing historically accurate about the fact that these cowboy gangs were "progressive". Really they were the regressive/reactionary ones who wanted to take things back to an earlier time.

Well i grew up around niggers all the time, one of them said their dog didnt like me because i'm pale.

“Races tend to be different” and “niggers should be slaves” are two very different things, user.

>shitskins spinning around in circles trying to justify an outlaw being woke
I laff everytim

especially considering that GANGS are the one part of society that have consistently stayed racially segregated since forever
go ahead an try to join the crips as a chink, I triple dare you

>but he was too progressive for the setting of the game

Never got why people think certain characters are "too progressive" or some variation of this argument for the setting of a game/movie/etc. Every single era in every single country had people that went against the tide in many ways. The only way I can see this argument being correct is when the character people are complaining about actually existed and is indeed portrayed wrong, which isn't the case for Arthur.

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whats next on this board? pirates were too progressive as well?

You're telling me that there were modern SJW cowboy gangs?

>it makes sense for him to be politically correct because he's bad

Yes.

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You asked for a movie and I gave one to you, and an excellent one at that. Keep seething though.

not same guy, i don't think arthur ought to be as progressive as he was, but dutch's gang is completly different all around and not really comparable to other gangs, be them real or fictional, i do think they went a bit too far in certain places, but shit like dutch denying miss adler a chance at jobs kinda reminded me of the era they were in, but they did a 180 after that without dutch really explaining himself, even tho the obvious explination would be that miss adler saved the gang while they were off in guarma

Define "modern SJW cowboy gangs".

Is that why nigger gangbangers kill eachother in droves? Because it's politically correct?

I asked for a western and you the coping non-white with nothing to say shat your pants

its retarded how people ITT are pretending that outlaws are more progressive than civilized society. that was never how it worked.

Sound it out retard, I'm not holding your hand.

Weird cope in here.

Game was made in the 21st century only reason why. Can anyone point to outlaw figures that had nigs in his gang or hung with them at least? Genuinely curious

Lenny says the gamer word.

>progressive values didn't exist in 1899
why do people talk about things they have no actual knowledge of

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That's not a western.

Lenny said nigger lover to Arthur

they did, but not by outlaws

I thought you might be a decent person until I got to the second half of your post lmao

"racism" is a term coined by Leon Trotsky in 1930, so yeah at least 80% of the wokeshit alluded to in RDR2 didn't fucking exist back then

>"A gal? As president? Well, what I can tell ya is its been nothin' but fellers since this whole thing here started up and what have we got? A bunch of other dead fellers. What have we got ta lose? I reckon' tryin' a gal's touch wouldn't do anyone no harm. If weakness is a concern of yours, I promise you some of the ladies runnin' in my gang would probably make Old Hickory look like a nancy in comparison. Hell, I'd reckon its her turn."

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Progressivism was overtly racist until the sixties.

Django is a western.

>Nothing to say
>Has LITERALLY nothing to say after I provided him with the movie he asked
Oh no.

Most people throughout all American history were pretty ambivalent about other races, especially people like Arthur who worked with them. Not caring and going about your own business doesn't make history, though.

>the wokeshit alluded to in RDR2
What would that be, exactly?

Cowboys often mingled with darkies, because tons of blacks went West after the Civil War, seeking some sort of fortune, like the cowboys did. Tons of blacks found work on farms as cowpunchers because that's all they knew how to do, and suddenly were "out of work" when slavery ended. Cowboys and Emancipated slaves were roughly in the same "lower-class" tier of society.

>guys socialism was in its fledgling stages in europe that means it was in nearly unsettled territory halfway across the world
OOF

Arthur spends all his time taking money from others and extorting people or using violence to get what he wants, it makes sense that he's a lefty.

>"Lettin' a black feller do yer wife? Well, if the old lady's havin' fun, who am I to deny her that? I reckon that feller's got a bigger one than me anyway. Besides, we gotta pay some back for that whole slavery bid'ness we did to them. Dutch raised me and I ain't his real son, so I'll raise my wife's son, whether he's black or white."

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Arguing about realism for a game inspired by spaghetti westerns is retarded to begin with.

The pop culture cowboy didn't exist, It's romanticised bullshit.

Got a source on that retard

>frontier-settlers were on the same tier as niggers
what in the fucking revisionist fuck are you on about, you coping non-white rat?

he would never say that

but you're kinda funny.

this game wasnt even trying to be a spaghetti western, its trying to be more realistic than that. thats why a lot of things in this game are so jarring and immersion breaking. it tries to be so serious but really, america in 1899 was nothing like this. rockstar honestly sucks at recreating a time period

>Word wasn't invented therefore the idea couldn't either
Try again

Arthur is from the American West. People out there didn’t really have a positive view towards slavery or racism against blacks during that time period.

>believing it is completely impossible that a man who grew up around minorities would be sympathetic to their cause because LOL EVERYONE WAS RACIST BACK THEN THAT'S WHAT Yas Forums TOLD ME

>your pop culture westerns are fake, so don't get mad when we take your pop culture you like and fill it with wokeshit and subhuman pandering!!!!
fuck off

>I'm jus' sayin' John, maybe you owe Lenny a few rounds with Abigail on account of needin' to repair the damage we done to him an' his people with slavery 'n all.

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You're just making shit up.

>The second Amendment eh? Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't them fancy schmancy "rights" written long ago? These eh, archaic rights no longer apply in our increasingly industrialized world, especially one surrounding guns. Ya see, if we can go from flint lock to single action in a matter of a few decades, who's to say what comes next, fully automatic killin' machines? Bump stocks? Eh, maybe I'm just actin crazy, then again maybe not. One things fersure, us outlaws will have a real hard time committin crimes with a gun ban...

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Are you implying white people "grew up" with black people? In the 1800's?

Charles was the most based character in rdr2.

giving protagonists modern sensibilities despite the time and place is a common dumb thing in media and it's only going to get worse

Most of this thread is one person samefagging.

If you want a Yas Forums thread to scream about niggers go back to Yas Forums.

>Eating meat? Now I love a good steak, but is it really worth it in the long run? Razin' and grazin' the fields just to feed some cows gassin' the atmosphere so we can chow down on 'em later? That can't be good for us. Considerin' the growin' population from migrants, those bovines just ain't gonna be sustainable in a couple years. What we should do is work towards more of that bug eatin' I've been seeing the Asian types doin'.

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the IRISH were called niggers back then and discriminated against freely
do you fucking see the IRISH BEGGING to be "positively represented" in media and throwing shit at everyone when that's not the case?
you non-whites are so fucking unbearable lmfao, and I personally can't wait until the status quo shifts again and you get white justice on your ass

people have NEVER been equal and this natural instinct WHITES have when looking at cockroaches like you, that instinct is 1005 correct

you belong breaking rocks at a work camp or in a dead in a ditch
that's just the way it is :^)

Blacks accounted for up to 25 percent of workers in the range-cattle industry from the 1860s to 1880s.
Most "settlers" as you imagine them were pre-Civil War and tons of those guys brought slaves with them to settle.
Maybe you should bother cracking open a book or glancing at a timeline.

they did the same shit with john marston, why is everyone complaining now

Neck yourself, you mentally ill freak.

you do know irish people are also white, right?
also why are you assuming i'm not white lmao

Agreed but the sentiment still remains. You don't need to enslave other races in order to recognize differences.

Anyways most normal White folk didn't agree with slavery from what a gather. They didn't really care for it but they didn't really approve of it either. And they didn't like Blacks being on the same continent either. There was no referendum among the White peasants on whether slavery should have been legal. The Elites just decided that slavery was legal one day and then took slaves for themselves. Which is what every Elite class in every racial country did.

They don’t have modern sensibilities. They all work under Dutch, who is literally out of touch with reality with delusions of grandeur and is a two-faced hypocrite.

>do you fucking see the IRISH BEGGING to be "positively represented" in media
Fun fact: whenever a reboot or a modern iteration of a franchise comes along, white-skinned, red-haired characters are always the first ones turned black.

you're not white since you obviously can't read or understand what you just read
classic non-white trait, I think it's got something to do with the shape of your head

RDR1 wasn't marketed as the most realistic western game on the planet

>occupying the Philippines dutch? I dunno seems like a bad idea, if those spaniards cant civilise those monkeys who can?

>if i imply that the person i'm arguing with isn't white then i win the argument!

While it is certainly romanticized, there were dozens of criminal gangs in the American west from the late 1800s to the early 1900s that were more than enough to capture the attention of the American public and serve as a foundation for future storytelling.

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>"Marriage? A sacred institution? Heh, it's anything but in my experience, brother, I can tell you that. If two fellers wanna tie the knot, who am I ta say no? If the Lord ain't judged our gang, I'd say he's been takin' some time off the job, yer probably safe. Heh heh. Have at it, I say."

(((RDR)))
(((GTA)))
(((Rockstar)))
These games are subversive, degenerate trash. Cowboys were the samurai of the wild west. Fuck kikes and niggers.

hating on or at the very least, strongly disagreeing with white supremacist idiots peddling white genocide and eugenics pamphlets for one
any other erroneous comments about the plight of nonwhites throughout the game
opportunities to talk shit about people in places like rhodes, which itself is a mockery of the racist south

things that did not happen, and are there for modern social commentary alone
shit is out of place and only entertaining to limp-wristed cucks with no sense of taste or quality world building

Correct, it's a Southern

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Got a source that they didnt, retard? If everyone hated blacks then events like church bombings and Emmett Till wouldn't have sparked national outrage from all races. Believing that everyone had always been racist prior to the 70s is buying into Tumblr propaganda

which is why it's so great
RDR 1 plays like an old action western
2 plays like some 4 hour long excessively violent drama directed by tarantino with writing that's 5x worse

>Emmett Till wouldn't have sparked national outrage from all races
You don't actually believe this, do you?

the white supremacist "idiots" who are 100% correct in the fact that non-whites should stay in the shitholes they come from?

At least make it sound like Arthur this shit is garbage

schoolkids had to be forced by the ARMY to share their schools with niggers