Anyone saved old posts about symbolism in this game...

How did Agro survive?

swimming

>lore is not story

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>tfw people spent literal years and years trying to find out if there really was a secret hidden colossal based on obscure clues hidden around
>turns out there wasn't anything

Thanks to data-mining nowadays you can't get that same level of mystery and well-hidden secrets in video games, whether they exist or not. But damn SOTC was such a mysterious game. There's nothing else like it.

it isn't, it's setting

oh yes, there is "nothing else like it" because you got this content starved definition of flash over substance and couldnt datamine it because it was locked to a console that people didnt have the tools to exploit. quit overrating this fucking shit and just admit you like the setpieces that the "bosses" are. once you figure out the exact puzzle mechanic for each fight you pretty much end up doing that trick once and if you dont gargantually fuck up the fight is already over and the rest is just listening to music and looking at the barely interactive encounter play out

imagine being this devoid of spirit

yes, imagine consuming actual art for decades so you arent that easily impressed by the delusions of nostalgiafags. Im ready to praise everything that the game actually does well instead of attributing retarded delusions to it like how "mysterious" it was for not having any fucking content. selling this game at a full price should be criminal btw and had the original released today as a PS4 exclusive the entirety of the board would be howling at it for being a 5 hour long "movie" with zero gameplay even on the first run through as evidenced by death stranding which has probably a thousand times more dense mechanics and a 50+ hour runtime on the first go

It made the game feel alive like you never managed to see everything in it. It took me a long time to see the giant hawk that lives in the big dead tree. I still haven't maxed out my stamina and climbed to the garden on top of the shrine.

it's almost as if the game isn't trying to win you over on 'content' by cramming in useless crap, and is instead focused on delivering a streamlined story

>selling this game at a full price should be criminal btw and had the original released today as a PS4 exclusive the entirety of the board would be howling at it for being a 5 hour long "movie" with zero gameplay even on the first run through as evidenced by death stranding which has probably a thousand times more dense mechanics and a 50+ hour runtime on the first go
>it's almost as if the game isn't trying to win you over on 'content' by cramming in useless crap, and is instead focused on delivering a streamlined story

now tell me youre hypocritical enough to shit on "movie games"

Fantastic art direction is a form of substance you luddite cretin.

>yes, imagine consuming actual art for decades
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words.

I don't shit on movie games, I unironically enjoy RDR2, Journey, and I'll enjoy Tsushima too
why are you so mad mate

probably because im getting too wise to the old game good hypocrisy that utterly permeates this shithole of a board and its more topical than ever with the litany of classic game remakes that are coming out right now

Juorney is not a movie game.
Its a pretty walking simulator but at no point does it or the devs claim it to be more than that.

You are too autistic for Yas Forums. Let that sink in.

The old game good new game bad is a meme. You fell for a joke spammed by literal retards.

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I bet you own a switch you hypocritical faggot

except that I dont. there is literally nothing "hypocritical" about calling SOTC what it is because its literally the definition of flash over substance. there is utterly nothing mechanically complex or entertaining about SOTC and every second of the game hinges on audiovisual spectacle of the colossi encounters. I dont think literally anyone can claim that SOTC wouldnt have been a better game if it even went as "far" as let you pick which colossi to fight in which order from the start and made every single one of them a longer, more fleshed out and intricate challenge that doesnt rely on just figuring out one gimmick to end the fight in 99% of cases

>had the original released today as a PS4 exclusive the entirety of the board would be howling at it for being a 5 hour long "movie" with zero gameplay even on the first run through as evidenced by death stranding
You're right, because the board is overrun with brain damaged children.

You didn't understand the game. Maybe years and years of art consumption clouded your mind. Wait some years and try again.

There is LITERALLY nothing to fucking "understand". Go kill yourself retarded artlet or alternatively start consuming actual art and put your bidoo game into some perspective. The hilarious part is that I understand more about games as art than the overwhelming majority of these söys frothing at the mouth about how X game is "art"

The reality is that all games are "art" but there is nothing fucking "deep" about any game because fundamentally the mode of eliciting emotion for videogames is the least rooted in stimulating your thinking brain and all about the feeling one. People are still talking about DOOM because of how it makes them feel and the same applies to SOTC but at some point the kids grew up into retarded malding söy face cucks who now try to pass it off as some "deep" bible of life lessons

you are stupid. I really am curious about what, for example, films and books you consider great.

Not an argument. Assess the post point by point and then tell everyone what I failed to "understand" about SOTC

nor are your absent credentials you keep going on and on and on and on about

>c-credentials

thanks for exposing yourself mouthbreather. you cant begin to assess the points so you desperately keep trying to change the goalposts. in reality, heres a good post for you to think about fucking retarded brainlet

why don't you write another five paragraph essay on what an accomplished paint sniffer you are, I'm sure everyone's on the edge of their seats waiting for your next blog entry

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You failed to understsand the world. I never claimed Sotc was deep or good because of its symbolism. I consider it a masterpiece for it's minimalism and the awe it can inspire. There is literally nothing in the world and nonetheless the player is driven by curiosity about it. The story is also minimalist but poignant. It's a success aesthetically and emotionally. You claim to have consumed great works of art but you failed to see here.

>why don't you write another five paragraph essay on what an accomplished paint sniffer you are,

>I'm sure everyone's on the edge of their seats waiting for your next blog entry

daily reminder that the "person" who wrote this also considers themselves educated, enlightened and to have the capacity to assess any type of art even though reading 2 small paragraphs in a video game forum sent him into a combination of autistic, seething rage and shock

>You claim to have consumed great works of art but you failed to see here.
I didnt "fail" to see anything. I just said SOTC does what a videogame should because it elicits its emotion through interactivity and the general experience of playing it rather than showing you cutscenes of story to emulate other art forms. The point is also that there is literally nothing to "understand" because games are the brainlets medium and even a literal child could grasp what games elicit because if anything its even easier for a kid to immerse themselves into a game than it is for an adult who uses a more thinking/ wisdom oriented brain more often

Every game is different. I doubt a child could gain the same experience playing sotc than someone else for example. I think everyone could see different things in the game. Being open to interpretation is what makes it great, among other things

posturing on fucking Yas Forums is just tired and pointless, but yeah sure, you're so edgy, man, we just can't handle your princely nigerian ass umad umad etc what a show!

quality post there, do you actually go to special ED?

>I doubt a child could gain the same experience playing sotc than someone else for example.
applies to every piece of art ever made
>Being open to interpretation is what makes it great, among other things
there is nothing "open to interpretation" about the game

Do you make sure you know everything about a game before you play it? these sound like the dissatisfied mewlings of someone who played a game meant to be enjoyed blind but knew everything going in and had the experience spoiled as a result.

No, they said they didn't have anything left to teach me when they saw me brag about unspecified credentials anonymously online as replacement for saying anything of substance.

hey sotc hater take your opinions over to /lit/ real quick I want to see how quickly they stomp you out

That, or the poop tapestry. I'm honestly not sure now that I think about it.

>they saw me brag about unspecified credentials anonymously
youre the only one frothing at the mouth about "credentials" because youre a retarded sheeple who is incapable of arguing but would automatically snap to behave as I say if I showed you a certificate

what you just said has literally nothing to do with anything said in those posts

Also talking about SOTC has literally nothing to do with literature. The funny part is though that youre literally such a retarded brainlet that you somehow think /lit/ would "stomp me out" because the average thread there probably flies over your head. I browse /lit/ while i shit because its a slow board mainly filled with people who only want to talk about philosophers for the thousandths meme thread in a row but im a novelist myself. Probably the reason why im not impressed at the average mcdonalds walshart bidoogamelet telling me that SOTC was too "deep" for me whenever I call mouthbreathers out for old game good

"only I know what art is"
how is anyone falling for this troll

Show everyone the post where you pulled the quote from

holy fuck this guy is going to have an aneurysm he cant take being this wrong about anything jesus

>umad! umad!
you should brush up on your memes, that was old 10 years ago. and vary it up a bit, you sound like a fucking parrot

Jew back here. ESL, I actually can't tell apart the words lore from story from plot.

>im a novelist myself
My condolences.

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My favorite part of this thread is where some faggot showed up to shit all over a perfectly acceptable video game thread and instead didn't target literally anything else wrong with Yas Forums that I'm sure he has many, many deluded opinions on. He is the architect of original thought and no one can prove him wrong.

I am dying to find out what actual station in life they've tricked themselves into thinking is somehow worthy of all this air in their posts.

Maybe you should go back or concede like the retarded autist you are?

>haha no
>yes, here is a long argument
>noo ahahaha what the fuck i wont assess it
>are you retarded?
>holy shit what the fuck this guy cant take being wrong lol!!11

ill accept your concession. never let me see another retarded "post" from you again

Not an argument and coincidentally enough has absolutely nothing to do with the post you "replied" to

>showed up to shit all over a perfectly acceptable video game thread
yes, not blindly worshipping something and actually talking about it is "shitting all over" your special ED hugbox

>He is the architect of original thought and no one can prove him wrong.
seems like it when every single mouthbreather combined hasnt been able to pick apart one of those tiny arguments

quality "argument" mouthbreather, certainly proved everything I said wrong

>Not an argument
that, too, but more pressingly: goddamn, are you boring

>The hilarious part is that I understand more about games as art than the overwhelming majority of these söys frothing at the mouth about how X game is "art"
sorry there were just so many instances where you had to actually lie to yourself to actually make a claim. Does this work?

Is this your role in life? Have you actually accepted that youre a retarded NPC parrot screeching empty nothingness at the sidelines or has it not hit you yet?

Nothing about that statement was incorrect. The vast number of mouthbreathers discussing games "as art" are debating about if they "are" "art" or not and if they are, the next level are the retards pointing at which game " is art" and usually for all of the wrong reasons. DOOM is higher art than the entirety of the modern snoy lineup outside of bloodborne. In reality almost nobody trying to assess the "art" of games has any capacity to talk about literally any medium and they are just mouthbreathers who never grew up to appreciate anything except the digital toys they grew up with

NOOOO STOP TALKING ABOUT A THING I DONT LIKE NOOOOOOOO
NO NO FUN ALLOWED
MAKE ANOTHER SHITTY ROSTER THREAD
MAKE A COOOMER THREAD
ANYTHING BUT DISCUSSING A VIDEOGAME THAT JUST WAS MADE FREELY AVAILABLE NOOOOOOOOOO
you're part of the problem

>le NPC
wow, you're making strides
now you're on, what, 2-3 year old forced memes from reddit

This quack is worried about what qualifies as art when the status of "art" among actual artists is a fucking joke. Forcibly inflicting second hand embarrassment with posts like his should be punishable.

Show us your works faggot. Show us your art. Afraid it will be the same as any other attempt you've made at garnering approval?

No clue who is this supposedly aimed at since im actually talking about SOTC unlike the retarded parrots whining about how you cant say anything that their pea brains see as negative and send them into an angry NPC script like some random encounter in a videogame, a pile of basic mooks desperately screeching canned lines and whacking at the actual player character

seeYou should probably learn to read retarded autist. One of my first posts in the thread said that all games are "art" and the only thing that matters is how they elicit their emotion through what makes the medium unique. Actually retarded brainlets like you should be put down. In reality this entire thread is a collective aneyrusm from autists because I raised a point about how the entirety of this board shits on "movie games" or how games are being "dumbed down" but SOTC is one of the most flash over substance "games" ever made in relation to how vastly people are putting it on a pedestal

You might be an actually retarded autist if you think id shove the things I make money with into some Yas Forums thread full of special ED kids so they can "rate" and "assess" it

oh no its an actual mentally ill person now I feel bad

Quality argument there my npc "friend". The hilarious part is that your "brains" have turned into the kind of seething, retarded mush where you dont even know what the conversation is about but your script tells you to attack if X says anything that sounds remotely negative or doesnt outright worship the product you worship

hey, watch your mouth, you're talking to an art aficionado. Mah boi posts on Yas Forums! Scared? Yeah, you're fucking right to be.