Literally the worst boss fight

>Snake Eater isn’t fanfic

Get a load of this pleb

You mean the most fun part in the game

this is what ruined the series for me retroactively. I cant take anything kojima was stating in mgs2 seriously anymore. Any social commentary i have to look like it was just people over analyzing it and making it post modern when its actually just a random nonsense.. Mgs4 ruined Mgs2 and I really thought he did that on purpose as some sort of statement. Then he made PW to take a shit and ruin Snake Eater too but for some insane reason retarded monkeys appreciated it and found so many hidden meanings lol. So he had to make another game to ruin mgs3 and the entire series for anyone who actually cared.

This is what I thought but now I am more leaning to him just being hack who lost his mind after death threats in 2006

MGS3 did that for me.
I mever cared for Big Boss' gay forest shenanigans

>I cant take anything kojima was stating in mgs2 seriously anymore.

you took it seriously in the first place?

Can't even kill 22 Rays? Kys

yes when it wasn't bookended by NANOMACHINES and johnny sasaki shit jokes

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>mgs is canon
>but not metal gear 1/2 that set up major plot points for mgs

literally nobody cares about mg1 and 2.
mgs was essentually a soft reboot anyways

>mgs was essentually a soft reboot anyways
It's a direct sequel to the first two games and references previous events multiple times.
>literally nobody cares about mg1 and 2.
I do.

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>set up major plot points for mgs
Confirmed for never actually playing those games. MG1+2 had barely any """story""" at all. It's like saying Super Mario Bros. set up major plot points for the rest of its series.
Remember how 2 was already a retcon of 1.

Remember how literally everything is explained in MGS, partially retconning MG1+2 again.
There's no reason why the canon needs MG1+2.

MGS is a literal retread of MG2 with different characters setpieces.

>Confirmed for never actually playing those games
Ok.

yea but its a side story. They build up BB so much in MGS1 that it was really entertaining looking at him from normal perspective as just a soldier and /k nerd.

>LOOK AT ME I AM SO OLD PLEASE RESPECT MY OPINION

??? I'm only 27.

>only 27

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Fortune and sniping Vamp are worse.

>Ray-Rose
Kojimbus does it again

Ok, boomer.

Are you older, or implying I'm old with that gif?

This is how I felt going from MGS2 to MGS3. Retards on here love to jerk off the "muh Boss James Bond story", but it's literally fucking creatively and artistically gutted compared to MGS1/2. It's when I feel like he just abandoned his vision and just felt comfortable with just making his movie games from that point forward.

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but why? if the story of mgs 1/2 was finished by that point why you had problems with a side prequel story with different themes?

>if the story of mgs 1/2 was finished by that point

Ocelot and The Patriots were still out there so the story was not finished

pardon my spoonfeeding but care to tell me what 4 said in regards to that boss fight?

MGS2 is referred to as "the Manhattan incident" in MGS4 meaning that the whole "It's a VR simulation" thing is a debunked theory

Raiden never met Snake for real. Snake was never on Big Shell

but wasn't the "manhattan incident" referred solely as arsenal gear crashing into manhattan? the boss fight could have still took place into vr
what?

>Raiden never met Snake for real. Snake was never on Big Shell

bull shit. Iriquois is Snake.

>inb4 lies of "Snake died on the Tanker two years ago"

>what?

MGS2 fans still believe the bullshit lies the Patriot AI spouted about Snake dying on the tanker 2 years ago.

play the game user. Snake probably survived tanker but him manifesting on Big Shell cant be real if the entire event is treated as intended. Snake being present in the game is just AI adding Snake into the program so it can guide or inspire Raiden.

>play the game user.

I did. I knew "Snake died on the tanker" was bullshit from day 1.

and Raiden himself is just an avatar for the player. He is wearing your dog tags. He was never real. Only real things from this game was supposed to be emotions and experiences you as a player got. Its literally stated during end credits. The entire game is VR. or at least its supposed to be but people missed the point and wanted to know the answers , threatening kojima. So he game you half assed mgs4 infused with lazy fan service. Thats why fans actually hate mgs4. Not because its story doesn't make sense but because it ruined mgs2 on purpose and mgs2 is arguably the best game of the series and among best games ever created.

>He is wearing your dog tags
except I am not this person. Nor was I a child solider.

> Thats why fans actually hate mgs4.
You mean the vocal minority of MGS2 fans pissed that Kojima are resolve the unresolved plot elements?

forgot my image

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2 is among my favourite games of all time and i understand your feelings, user but i'm just saying that it's entirely possible that the it's entirely possible that rays' fight was still part of raiden's simulation while treating the arsenal crash as something that really happened in the real world (of metal gear solid)

>pissed that Kojima are resolve the unresolved plot elements?
Saying everything was nanomachines or vocal chord parasites is not "resolving" anything. You see what Disney is doing with The Last Jedi where they just babble incoherent nonsense and say it's canon? That's MGS4.

I like you immediately go for the "everything is Nanomachines" cop-out and ignore the fact that MGS2 left the whole Patriot AI and Ocelot stuff unresolved

It didn't need to be resolved, not every fucking plot thread needs a definitive answer. Sometimes they're meant to be open to interpretation or what-if scenarios.

I laugh my ass off at every line of pretentious drivel that is MGS dialogue. You are fucking retarded and should kys if you ever took it seriously.

>except I am not this person. Nor was I a child solider.
you enter the dog tag details, your country, blood type and bday before starting the game. You as a player. Raiden is your avatar because you are a part of simulation too. Are you really this dumb? they are yours you retard
>You mean the vocal minority of MGS2 fans pissed that Kojima are resolve the unresolved plot elements?
You have to remember that Kojima likes to rip off movies and then remember that Matrix was really successful back in the day. Next time you are replaying MGS2 try to look at it as a standalone title that was never supposed to have a sequel ( as Kojima was stating over and over and over and over in every fucking interview but people were dumb back than and they are even worse now. ) Really Kojima overestimating people that play video games ruined him as an artist.
>MGS2 left the whole Patriot AI and Ocelot stuff unresolved
It doesnt need resolving because kojima is literally telling you IT DOESNT MATTER ITS JUST A VIDEO GAME RETARD
well the way I see it IT IS INSIDE arsenal gear and they tell you that those rays are there to protect AG. By that point the "virus" has started fucking up the game itself so who knows.

>Literally the worst boss fight
That's this guy

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This fight is somehow worse the better you are at it. Like if you have no idea what you're doing it's a fucking ungodly challenge, but when you know the routine it's just "shoot knee, shoot mouth, dodge" ad nauseum and it's impossible to fail unless you just lose focus from being bored. It's like playing guitar hero on easy or something.

I had a fair share of frustration with this on hard, same with the final Boss fight, but once you kinda get in the flow it's not that hard either. Thinking back, I guess I had the most trouble with MGS' Cyborg Ninja on hard, while Peace Walkers Bosses were the easiest of the franchice.

>It didn't need to be resolved

it does when MGS2 teased sequel bait by Snake saying he would handle things

Can we just admit already MGS never had good bosses, nor good gameplay nor good story?

naaah you are just a retard and bosses in this series are among the best boss fights to this date.

The first time I played this as a kid, I kept ragequitting and retrying, not seeing that the numbers were changing, thinking the machines were just jumping off screen to regenerate and I wasn't making any progress. Bravo kojimbo

hows it his fault that you were are blind and retarded?

>no indication whatsoever that enemies are changing except for one tiny letter in the upper corner, otherwise it's just recycling identical assets the exact same way over and over

The mad chink designed and directed this masterpiece of gaming, so yes, I blame him

You 3 nuthuggers are delusional. Holy shit, the story in 1/2 were far from finished.

MGS4 ruined all the ambiguity of 2 but I do like that it retconned Liquid into having died for real at the end of 1