Let's face it: Doomslayer, Doomguy, whatever you call him, should not be in Smash Bros. There is simply no way to properly represent this character without brutal, overwhelming violence. And given the strict requirements of Nintendo to keep Smash Bros. family friendly, there's no way to properly represent such a character. Blood and gore needs to be on the screen, or else it's just not Doomslayer. This character is much better relegated to a Kombat Pack 2 character in Mortal Kombat 11, the NRS devs can actually do justice to the bloodshed that is innate to the character and it will fit in perfectly with the motifs of MK11.
In comparison, Master Chief is much better suited for Smash Bros. He is a character who was created to be the mascot of Microsoft's flagship game series right as the original Xbox launched; he is essentially Microsoft's "Mario", not even Sony can attest to having any single character that is so synonymous with their brand than Master Chief is to Microsoft. The character has a wide variety of weapons, both guns and blades that could be used as attacks in the game, even vehicles could be used for special moves or Final Smash. The incredible music composed by Martin O'Donnell, Nile Rogers and Steve Vai could all be employed in the game and fit well into the context of a Smash Bros match. Not to mention there's a wide variety of locales that could be used and have a very "Halo" vibe to them distinct from other game series. Given the iconicness, the vast versatility of the character, the music and locale variety, the possibility of shoehorning Cortana (Windows product placement) along with Master Chief AND most importantly the fact that over the top violence, gore and bloodshed are not synonymous with what Master Chief is, it makes perfect sense for the Chief to be playable in Smash Bros. Not to mention the symbolic importance of Microsoft and Nintendo's mascot fighting side by side would clearly represent a new era of cooperation.
B-b-but user!!! My doomlad definitely has things unique to him without blood and gore!!! Like the BFG, which totally wouldn't function like Samus' charge shot, or his shootgun, which would definitely not be boring as fuck in a fighting game. But that's not where it ends!!! He can do generic punches too!!!
Carson Cox
Doesn't DOOM 3 have all kinds of weapons like the Soul Cube?
Hunter Myers
Nintendo players need to be banned from this site.
Anthony Hill
>Look mom! I made a thread that is nothing but to start roster flamewars
John Cruz
Halozoomers are this desperate to discredit the popular pick simply because they lost to a cartoon bear. Who the fuck can possibly be this insecure? Boo hoo more people want to see Doomguy in Smash over John Halo, who cares.
Camden Price
>Blood and gore needs to be on the screen, or else it's just not Doomslayer doom snes wants a word
>There is simply no way to properly represent this character without brutal, overwhelming violence. and this is how you ruin an entire argument. Original Doom games are more tamed than Bayonetta. They were never "overwhelmingly" violent until the reboot game. Imagine not playing a game and thinking you know anything about them
Justin Foster
Several characters are brutally violent. Ridley skewers people. Bayo slams huge limbs into people. All the Martha slash the shit out of people. Doomguy is so over the top his violence would work fine in Smash since his power borderlines on cartoony anyway. Make his Final Smash a first person perspective where whoever he hit with it gets a knuckle cracking rip and tear punch to the face. All of his various guns and melee moves would transition into Smash as well as anyone else.
Bentley Long
You could have just let the bait thread die, but no. You just had to bump it like a newfag.
William Bell
But you retard, we are not talking about the actions being seen as brutal. Captain Falcon kneeing people in the chest is a pretty brutal action too, in real life only. Doomguy just isn't unique without his blood and gore and ripping and tearing.
Andrew Cox
Doom 3, too. I was surprised Doom 2016 ran on the Switch. I don't even think it looks garbage. Not amazing but for what it is I was impressed. Though I'm always impressed when games run on weaker hardware. I'm an idort who just likes seeing things optimized and pushed to the limits. Too bad it can't run at 60fps but not surprised at all either.
Joseph Perry
>Doomguy just isn't unique without his blood and gore and ripping and tearing. He's as unique as any FPS character with a ton of weapons, retard. Super Shotgun Plasma Gun BFG 9000 Railgun Gernades Assault rifle In fact, his weapons are more unique than your generic CoD characters. You don't need blood dumbass. Instead of gore, it's knock back. Anyone who argues otherwise is completely retarded. >and ripping and tearing. Way to out yourself as a newfag zoomer who has never played Doom aside from seeing YouTube clips of the reboot game.
Check & Mate.
Joshua Carter
He wouldn't be without brutality. Let the hellish stage have blood and skulls. Bayo has gallons of blood too but none of it is in Smash. Every little detail about a character doesn't need to be present. If Doomguy has a brutal moveset with a bitching stage and music tracks, he'd be great.
Nathaniel Ward
Masterchief isn't even a videogame character, a novel/book came out 1 month before the videogame, it's not much diferent than requesting Goku.
But he showed up in a movie first. He's a movie character.
Kevin Parker
Maybe because Microsoft didn't trust that Halo would be good after a rough E3 2001 Halo trailer showing.
Jose Thompson
Master Chief is not a videogame character, END OF THE DISCUSSION!
Luis Diaz
Insecure much, Doom faggot?
Austin Sanchez
At this point, I wouldn't be suprised if Mr. Xbox himself got into Smash. Since Joker is already in the game, I think the big N has no problems with including a character from a series that is neither exclusive or huge on Nintendo's consoles.
he was designed for the game. He just happened to be in the movie first. The novel for Halo was just suppose to be a novel that ended up being a game. Lucario was specifically designed with the intention that he would appear in the games. There's a massive difference.
Carson Cook
mad that your thread archived? lol
Andrew Adams
But he is
Alexander Ortiz
>Pointing out dumb childish reasoning makes you insecure You seem upset.
Colton Reyes
Wrong, game was ready for release in 2001, MS had Eric write a Halo book in a week to promote the game because they were scared Halo CE would flop.
Jackson Thomas
Bait, but: Doomguy is mobility and range incarnate, which fits Smash more than MK 11's non-existent movement and over-dedication towards melee. And virtually everything you mentioned about Chief applies to Doomguy. Mascot? Doomguy's pretty much the face of 90's PC titles. Guns and blades? Doomguy's got chainsaws, crucibles, and that Armblade now, alongside his classic arsenal. Vehicles? I'm pretty sure Doomguy's got a mech as of Eternal. Incredible Music? Mick Gordon's tracks and all the classic ones, too. Wide Variety of locales? All of Hell, Phobos, Mars, and Argent D'nur. And Let's talk about shoehorning product placement, Cortana ain't coming to Switch. Eternal is. And we've already got a Microsoft mascot fighting in the game, everyone's favorite cereal bear.
Joseph Lopez
Why does he make zoomers seethe so much? You'd think Halofags would have a bit of respect for a game series that single handily popularized an entire genre and consistently puts out good games to this day. You should feel honored than a legend makes it into Smash. You can like both but arguing one character over another is immature and makes you reek of insecurity. Wash the dorito dust off of your fingers, and enjoy vidya.
just imagine if society could find a way of getting you smash autists as interested in the president of the USA Candidates individual campaigns as a silly fighting party game on a kid's toy.
Jaxon Moore
>Shotgun >Plasma >Railgun >Assault Rifle You are a goddamn fucking idiot, I didn't even mention the guns because shit like that doesn't work in a fighting game. The only ones that would work are the BFG which would just be a fucking Samus charge shot and the grenades which Snake already uses. Way to out yourself as a retarded rosterfag that doesn't actually play smash.
Check & Mate.
Jaxon Price
>You're a fucking idiot >Argues a character couldn't possibly work without blood and gore Oh the irony. Also your headcanon reasoning on why certain weapons wouldn't work is nonsensical and holds no ground. >the BFG which would just be a fucking Samus charge shot and the grenades which Snake already uses. so i guess half the roster shouldn't be in for having similar moves to one another
If you want to keep going, that's fine. Keep in mind it will get even more embarrassing.
Michael Sanchez
>Combat Shotgun not acting as a side-smash attack >Super Shotgun not working as the base special with the side special meathook >Plasma gun not working as a Down Special Stun >Railgun not working as an up Smash spike >Assault rifle not working as a Variant of Doomguy's throws.
Xavier Campbell
>Shotgun and Super Shotgun Easily a smash attack or a neutral B, express their spread as an attack that starts thin but damaging, then with distance gets wider but less damaging. Obviously it cuts off after a certain distance. >Plasma Gun Burst-fire projectile attack. You could also use the Heat Wave mod. >Railgun, aka Gauss Cannon The Staff item but with a charge up and without the distance damage ramp up. Kinda like Byleth's Neutral B, or for an even closer comparison, Super Smash Flash 2's Krystal has a sniper move that would work perfectly here, you can even aim it. >Assault Rifle Joker's Neutral B but burst fire, or he could use the Micro Missile mod and have projectiles that do small explosion damage but need to recharge afterwards. Also how is the BFG9000 anything other than the Final Smash? The way it works in Doom 2016 could pretty much be copied directly over.
Jacob Ramirez
Who do you think allowed him to get in to begin with? You didn't think Chief would let in the bear so easily without advertisement for his biggest game about to be released. A deals a deal.
Brayden Johnson
Oh yeah? What if I say neither of them are going to be in Smash?
Alexander Murphy
then you'd be fucking wrong, idiot
Chase Butler
Damn I can't believe Lucario an anime character and R.O.B a toy got in...
Chase Lewis
>Who do you think allowed him to get in to begin with? Phil Spencer who specifically wanted to see Banjo in.
>twitter.com/Halo/status/1113166542881951744 Lel. This happened before Banjo and yet he still couldn't get in. >He wants more. Stevefags need not apply. Phil doesn't run the Halo Twitter account, dumbass. Also like or not, Steve has more of a shot. >Sells more than Halo >More popular than Halo >More REQUESTED character than Halo >Actually has a game on the Switch Banjo got in because of Phil and because of fan demand. The next logical character is Steve which makes Chief even more irrelevant.
Jace Lewis
>2001 game is for zoomers!!!!!!! doomgoi is so much coolio guys!!!
ahh yes you're right, they created the game in one month after the book was released. fuck off idiot. the game was developed long before they decided to have a book written for the lore.
William Hall
please stop calling me a zoomer just because I was born after 1999 and say dumb shit. I'll throw my dank wojak meme at you!
>You're a stevefag because of all the logical and rational shit you say I'm just not a Halofag who specifically starts a thread just to bitch about more popular Smash picks being talked about than my most favorite. I was fine with Banjo and will be fine if Steve never makes it in.
Thomas Hill
>a Smash remix of Perilous Journey, Rock Anthem For Saving The World, Never Surrender, or One Final Effort god could you fucking IMAGINE
