>When he was unironically right about everything in this video.
When he was unironically right about everything in this video
He was wrong about everything. OOT is the best video game of all time so no shit it's the best Zelda game.
>when you're worse at games than toddlers
The game's combat at its core is nothing but waiting and hitting, no amount of items you can get changes that fact.
Him being bad at video games doesn't change any of his arguments. A good argument is a good argument.
This was the first moment where I realized that maybe Egoraptor was really just a fucking idiot. Lost a lot of respect for him after watching this video.
Not if the basis for his arguments is based on everyone being as bad at games as he is and being as biased as he is.
May someone please give me a short summary of what his major points were? I dont much feel like watching an entire 30 minute video right now
De gustibus non est disputandum.
No matter how convincing your argument sounds you're not going to convince anyone that something they liked was bad.
I still havent finished a 3D zelda game to this day. and I got ocarina of time when it originally released. Furthest I got was wind waker, but I got bored around the triforce hunting part.
I prefer the top down zelda games. We need more of those.
That's literally not true at all. If you actually play the game you can go berserk on enemies like the Wolfos and they can't block you if you are good at it.
old thing good, new thing bad
But it would take me 30 minutes to rewatch it in order to summarize it for you
>Oracle of Ages and Oracle of Seasons
take me back.... I want to go back....
The only people who say this are people who never played the game. Unironically git gud. You can do shit like use Hookshot, Arrows, Deku Nuts, etc to destroy large enemies.
>don't bother learning all the combat mechanics, don't even want to
>get upset that the combat is too simple
This is why I can't respect Arin.
>refuses to use z-targeting because it isn't in a link to the past
>"Uh Z-targeting doesn't work and it's broken!"
OoT is fine and Egoraptor was just plain fucking wrong about several things, but I will always respect him for being someone with a prominent voice who dedicated such a long video to showing how OoT isn't the greatest game ever made
inb4
>b-b-but you can run out of those items so they don't count!
he'll say that next
its funny that he talked sense when he animated but i think i can explain why
animation obviously takes time and he had a script written up before hand while animating he had time to refine and rethink his points and out comes a decent argument with a funny animation fast forward to now and he can say "Game is bullshit and bad also penis and poopy buttholes" maybe this time waiting is a good thing eh arin?
>Didn't bother to finish playing MM despite claiming it was one of his favorite Zeldas
A majority of his argument can be summed up as "why doesn't 3D game work entirely the same as 2D game? 3D bad, 2D good"
>you're based if you shit talk popular thing even if all of your points are fucking stupid
It's not even top 3 best Zelda games, and N64 babies need to stop pretending their opinions matter.
ok Arin
good post
im pretty sure he rewrote the script multiple times too
A Link to the Past wastes a ton of your time with vague divergences and its idea of difficulty is just dropping a bunch of annoyances around as you brute force your way through rooms.
video games aren't fucking fun anymore Yas Forums
I look at my massive backlog of shit I've barely touched and all I see are burdens that I have to finish and I don't want to play anything
if I do manage to somehow start something I just feel empty and stop playing
then I fall back on something like smash and feel like shit because I'm not chipping away at my backlog and also get mad because I fucking hate the game and I'm not having fun and only playing it because it's easy to jump in to so I just ragequit immediately and then I'm banned from online for hours
I think more about getting new games to increase my library instead of playing what I have already
I feel better watching streams or videos of other people playing video games than playing them myself
I don't have any other hobbies or interests and I have no one to talk to or play vidya with
I only feel motivated to play something if there are threads about it on Yas Forums so if I don't get something on launch I stress out over it and get really upset I'm missing out on the only threads it will ever have
even though I'm thinking about getting new shit more I can't ever fucking commit or decide on buying anything because I'm never 100% sure I'll like it and I don't want to regret it, so I just end up being fucking wishy washy about everything and never buying anything and making myself more miserable
I can't make threads on Yas Forums anymore because I'm rangebanned so I'm just completely alone and desperately scrambling to try and find something to do all day besides wishing for death
I have to motivate myself to buy a fucking gun so I can kill myself I can't fucking take this goddamn shit anymore I can't even make threads to vent anymore I have fucking nothing and no one and I hate everything
THIS user POSTS ON Yas Forums.
FUCK YOU GET OFF MY FUCKING BOARD AAAAAAAAAHH
Sounds like you need to convince better.
Reminder that this is the same person who died to fucking clams multiple times and refused to take off the damned hover boots
Wait until you want to play video games again. No one is judging you for having a big backlog. Maybe pick up other hobbies in the meantime.
>with vague divergences
Explain exactly what you mean by this. LttP has you actually explore and figure out how to get places on the world map. OoT let's you see where everything is from Hyrule Field, and you just walk right to each temple after the game has you walk back and forth between a couple NPCs so you can get the key. OoT pads out the banal "exploration" with tedious dialogue.
I'm judging me
every second I think about all the shit I haven't finished is agony
I don't want to play video games no matter how long I wait, I still feel empty or get mad and ragequit immediately
I don't want to have other hobbies I only like video games
The playthroughs he did of Ocarina, Majora and pretty much every other 3D Zelda have pretty much conclusively proven that Arin is a fucktard whose criticisms of games are almost always down to his own stupidity and lack of common sense. And I'm saying this as someone who didn't grow up with Zelda and who only played Ocarina a few years ago (and I only thought it was just okay).
>He was wrong about everything. OOT is the best video game of all time so no shit it's the best Zelda game.
Keep saying it
Just watch the game grumps playthrough of OoT if you want to see why all his points are fucking moronic. Beyond just being wrong about OoT, it's unbelievable that anyone would take seriously anything he has to say about games, ever.
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>Complains about enemies just involving waiting/taking too long to kill
>Refuses to ever use the shield or any items except the sword
>Complains that OoT holds your hand and tells you what to do
>While playing, whines that he doesn't know what to do and frequently has to look up walkthroughs to solve puzzles.
>Refuses to take off the hover boots because he can only think in terms of "new item, its an upgrade", frequently dies because of it
>Dies DOZENS of times in an easy game for children.
>Series is called Sequelitis
>Compares LTTP and OOT when those are games are both not sequels and one's 2D and the other's 3D
And this is why I don't take Egoraptor seriously.
>Jon knew how to play games, its history and overall had good taste
>After leaving Grumps he worked more of content that wasn't focused on games and wanted to expand and do something new
>Ego can't play games, gets easily frustrated at games and clear grew up a Sony fanboy rather than enjoy everything
>Failed getting a job in the industry, made factually wrong videos on game design, still does the same let's play content years later refusing to change or adapt because that needs effort
Considering how willing people were to dogpile Jon he really turned out on top of it all
If anything OoT is the sequel to Link's Awakening too.
wait, someone dogpilled Jontron? I think everyone always liked him (well, except when he went full Yas Forums but everyone just pretend it never happened)
>except when he went full Yas Forums
>except
He literally admitted he was wrong in a mario maker video, his stance on sonic however...
Maybe games are too simple for you now youve grown past simple games and now need something more challenging the same thing happens to students placed in classes below thier level actually they get bored with the easy lessons and fail/pass with a c or below. You need some complexity in your games to actually keep you engaged something that you wont figure out within the first 10 mins of the game. Here are a few suggestion
ss13 very fun game to play with randos or
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by yourself it will suck you in if you get over the learning curve
another one is Dwarf fortress
learn some tutorials and youll be having fun in no time
TF2
the depth of the classes in this game will keep you practicing for hours
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just go for games with depth user
imma use pic related because i never get to even though it doesnt fit the tone of my post
Funny, I'm the opposite. I've beaten every 3D Zelda and only one 2D (Four Swords Adventures).
>I don't want to have other hobbies I only like video games
Literally get another hobby, you'll eventually come back to vidya. I got into anime and programming
t. had a 2 year dry streak after Persona 5 came out and didn't play any vidya until I got into FFXIV and now I'm back to playing a ton of shit
when you make the same thread not even 12 hours after the last one died
>The game's combat at its core is nothing but waiting and hitting
>no amount of ways around this count cause I say they don't
you've got it wrong user
anything with challenge or depth just makes me rage and want to kill myself even more
I can't even handle dying in simple games like mario and use savestates constantly to pretend it didn't happen otherwise I want to scream and break shit
I literally don't fucking like anything else
I can't force myself to like other shit
And that's bad... because? Personally, I think it's like a souls game, minus the parrying. You still need to deflect and dodge, but that just means you have to time your attacks better to do more damage. Plus, you have stuff like the deku nuts you can use to freeze enemies for a little bit, so if you're so ADHD that you cant wait two seconds to attack, just use those instead.
Cause when it was his choreographed video you assume it's coming from someone who understand the game and has an understanding of it's mechanics which he is criticizing. Then you see him actually try to play one of those games and you realize that he has at best a very flawed understanding of the games and his criticism came from someone who who failed at the most menial of parts of the games repeatedly.
I'm you but divorced and with a gun.
I recommend doing other things too, like exercising or trying some social game like D&D with a local group. Maybe volunteer at an animal shelter or something. As for games, I second going with something like Dwarf Fortress or Rimworld. That requires imagination and can last forever if you want it to.
People thinking he self-posted when its obvious he has a more busy life than most people here
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Fucking retard contradicts his owns points immediately after he makes them.
Not even he agrees with himself.
ah i see in that case stop screaming like and lil bitch and git gud
when you realize what i said is a actual advice and not *Just* an insult youll enjoy games more
That's not even the gameplay
That's how any Souls shit is you autist
Is it true that Jon was supposed to make an OoT video at the same time as this? If it is it's pretty disappointing that it never came out. Jon may not be the best but at least he can play 3D games, I would've loved to see Arin get absolutely BTFO.
same the 2D ones are more straight forward, 3D games are full of shit gimmicks. Every time i feel like playing majoras mask i remember the stupid deku temple and rescuing the dumb witch.
I hate exercising and hate social shit
there's no one I know in real life that I like
I don't want to get up and do anything and especially not for free
I don't have any imagination or creativity
Did you not play Link Between Worlds? It's literally that.
Conan O Brien often talks about letting the subject material, ie places they visit, people they talk to to, the game they played, etc be the star because him trying to force jokes and be funny over top of them instead of letting them be the star and reacting to them is what makes for good content.
This concept is completely lost on Arin. He never lets the games speak for themselves and focus on the game, letting them be the star. He constantly tries to be above the game, approach it dismissively as if he expects it to not be good or entertaining enough, and instead forces jokes or loud noises over them.
His refusal to play even fucking mini-golf in todays TheGrumps video is a clear demonstration of this:
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I remember when I watched early Giant Bomb and they would follow the rules of games including Kinect (for example, "Everyone leave the room while player 1 hides the object" and they did just that) it was refreshing to see people just following the rules of the game. Then I couldnt put my finger on why that was refreshing and fun, but this is the reason.
>self-posted
What does that even fucking mean you damned esl
I am good
that's why I get mad when fucking subhumans over the internet win against me because the game is fucking shit or because of lag
when I don't know what I'm doing I don't get angry unless I'm already in a shit mood but I'm never clueless for long and cat quickly find reasons to get pissed
Jeeze, you sound miserable and possibly autistic or a teenager. Luckily for you suicide is cheap, free even depending upon how you go about it
If you're getting that mad at video games, you might need to bite the bullet and try picking up more productive hobbies like knitting, carpentry or even just making perler bead sprites. If you aren't up to it, at least try something you can do at your own pace like golf. Making regular visits to the gym is also a great way of boosting morale. Whatever it is that you decide to do, I believe you've got better days ahead of you, user.
>make a spot on MMX video
>people rather obsess over your worse review because you are trashing a game people love
even his castlevania video was decent and i remember the points he did to this day. His ocarina video was a complete mess.
OOT isn't even the greatest Zelda game of all time.
I'm 22
I'm too unmotivated to buy a gun
I honest to God don't like anything else
I don't have to leave my room to play video games which is a huge part of it
everything else makes me have to leave my room which I can't stand doing anymore
Are these threads opened by jannies or something? everytime I open an eceleb thread is deleted in seconds.