Theory: Kingdom hearts was a shitstain on the jrpg genre and ruined the public perception of jrpg to this day because it was too cringe and hit during a time where kids in the west who grew up with the psx were trying to get self conscious during puberty and being cringe was considered worth than having aids, so only autists and overweight yaoi obsessed fangirls stayed while everyone who was on board with ff7 bailed.
Decline of jrpg in the west
Sure OP whatever, but seriously check this 5
KH1 and KH2 took pretty much everything shitty about JRPGs (particularly FF) and fixed it.
Palette swapped elemental spells? Each spell in KH is entirely functionally different and useful.
Summons being glorified spells? Now they're actual summons which are active on the battlefield that come with a variety of effects, attacks, and buffs.
Damage caps? Not in KH2. Caps stats instead so it doesn't fuck with the relative power of things, and has reasonably stat floors as well as ceilings. 1 had damage caps tailored to individual enemies (if at all) and stuff like Gravity ignored them.
Damage sponge bosses? In KH2FM even at Lv 1 most super bosses take three minutes before even getting into speedkill strats, and they're fairly intricate back and fourths with their own gimmicks.
Item spam? Reasonable limit to the number you can carry per battle, and you're exposed while using them.
Equipment? KH2 stuff is about passive abilities, not stats, so more than one weapon is useful endgame.
VII was shit, VIII and IX were much better games
Well at least the point about the autism is proven in under 3 replies.
Kingdom Hearts is a JRPG?
I remember normies getting hyped up for FF8. Back then jrpg were a cool genre. KH really did a number on jrpg.
No it isin't. It' an action game and it was/still is one of the best out there
You can't be serious.
See You can read right?
Leave it to kingdom hearts brainletts to fail at reading comprehension.
If you think Kingdom Hearts is cringy you've either never played 1&2 or if you did it's probably been half a decade if not more.
Go play them, they are great.
You must be legit mentally ill if you belive your wonky ass floaty Disney game is anywhere near a good action game lol
Nomura is that guy that never left middle-school.
Here's the point you low IQ niggas forgot to realize.
Nobody needed to play that shit to see its cringe. All they needed was to see Screenshots of emo cloud wrapped in toilet paper and mickey mouse to see its cringe. This is why you are virgins, because the concept of public image goes over your heads.
Brother, they play Goofy dying for dramatic effect
>no argument
Back to your containment thread.
What would your mother or that girl at your workplace think if they knew you were getting angry at people on the internet, calling them virgins for liking something you don't like?
Not a good look.
Yeah, sounds about right
I don't give a shit you dumb normalfag. I'd play a game based on Barbie or Hannah Montana if it had gameplay on par with KH2.
Devil May Cry is the furthest thing from just hit them imaginable. I employed that strategy on my first run of DMC 3 and died about 1000 times
This is entirely correct
>during a time where kids in the west who grew up with the psx were trying to get self conscious during puberty and being cringe was considered worth than having aids
Have you ever spent any time around teenagers? As a high school teacher I can confirm they're the cringiest fucking people on the planet.
You can't make a JRPG that suits both Japan and the West, their taste is incompatible.
Japan wants anime, cute things and a Mary Sue protagonist that everyone like for no reasons.
The West wants realistic graphism and Japan will never accept that.
>tfw Dragon Quest doesn't have any of those issues since DQ1
Why is Final Fantasy more popular and gets more official content made, Yas Forums?
Because normalfags.
Sephiroth's theme song
This image relies on the hope that you can throw a bunch of buzzwords and shit that are mostly only relevant to speedrunning on an image and hope people just haven't played KH2. Half of that shit isn't even necessary for you to learn either since you eventually get a skill that lets you survive a fatal hit with 1 HP then just spam heals. I mean seriously:
>Level 1 mode
Thats like saying not buying anything in DMC is a "feature" whoever made this shit is a fucking idiot.
Never played DQ but a quick google search tells me it has some of those issues. Most JRPGs do.
After spirits within killed square they really turned into a cringe factory of the worst kind. It's like sakaguchi was the only sane one there filtering out all the embarrassing ideas his staff would come up with from the good ones.
>What would your mother or that girl at your workplace think if they knew you were getting angry at people on the internet, calling them virgins for liking something you don't like?
The secret to not being a virgin is not giving a fuck what some hallucinated version of a woman you know might say. It's called confidence lmao
When I was 10 FFVII was the hottest shit in middle school. Everyone played it. It was up there with TEKKEN for cool game shit.
When kingdom hearts hit people started believing that that's actually what jrpg are and secondaries like you started parroting shit like that.
Normalfags need to fuck off, Kingdom Hearts is THE autism kino, nobody else could deliver it.
>But muh cringe, muh public image
Chad can be rapist and do all sorts of cringy shit but everyone will still love him and he will fuck more girls than you ever do in your life, you think girls would turn down Chris Hemsworth if drew Kingdom Hearts yaoi porn and wrote fanfics about soriku and dressed himself in all black leather, wore two belts and got himself a spiky emo haircut and talked all the time about darkness or some other emo shit girls would turn him down? think again losers.
>whoever made this shit is a fucking idiot
It's just kh-kun. He's some unemployed german who pops up in literally every thread kh is mentioned to defend it or compare it to either DMC or FFXV.
People who like kh are on the bottom of the social ladder in highschool. It's nothing personally, but the moment people like you started going to school with keyblade replica necklaces and cheshire cat hoodies was when I stopped publically associating with you (and managed to lose my virginity like half a year later)
That makes sense, at first I thought shit like that was conspiracy theory shit until I remembered gamefaqs and some of the daily downsyndrome posts some users make there regularly.
You're not confident, you'd never tell anyone irl about this thread and what you're arguing about here.
Well yeah, obviously I wont tell anyone irl about this thread, because I'm not some unhinged virgin like you.
I'm actually literally on the shitter right now and killing some time.
no the problem is japs switched from generic fantasy stories to weebshit anime teenagers in high school and their after school activities include fighting evil in poorly designed outfits
Stagnation leads to boredom.
i never used spells playing any KH games I just spammed attack button repeatedly and pressed triangle when i saw it, still pretty much made it through flawlessly except like one time I had to use a spell for AoE to clear a room in under 3 seconds
never had to bother with summons because again just slapped everything to death
damage/stat caps were pretty irrelevant to my plays
damage sponging or not was pretty irrelevant
deadass just walk to the corner of room spam your heal items then come back
i deadass just always stuck with the equips with the highest raw damage for reasons above
you can make the games pretty brainless overall, which makes sense, it makes use of quite a few IPs that are marketed toward children, so it stands to reason the game is designed in this way
No shit. This guy is like legit mentally ill and scanning Yas Forums 24/7 for kh or Nomura to be mentioned to run screeching into the thread and post autistic copy pastas how kh isn't some legit gay and retarded shit for babies but like a badass action franchise.
Go back, you retarded reddit spacing normalfaggot.
>This image relies on the hope that you can throw a bunch of buzzwords
"Buzzwords" translation: mechanics I don't understand.
>and shit that are mostly only relevant to speedrunning
Being relevant to speedrunning proves their legitimacy outright. Speedruns involve learning how to make full use of the tools of the game and knowing when to use what generally has the most noticeable effect of vastly increasing your efficiency and damage output, one of the main indicators of your skill level and is what leads to killing enemies much more efficiently.
>Half of that shit isn't even necessary
No shit retard, you can also beat any Mega Man game with the Buster only or any DMC with the basic Alastor/Rebellion 3 hit string. Necessary =/= useful, conflating the two outs you as a complete casual.
>you to learn either since you eventually get a skill that lets you survive a fatal hit with 1 HP
1) Non-Lv.1 is for babies.
2) Gameplay depth is always relevant. Whether you're on Lv.99 Beginner or Lv.1 Crit, players who utilize a wider range of options will always have an advantage. Magnet into Thunder or a Limit is almost always way safer, stronger, and faster than the X button against mobs.
>Thats like saying not buying anything in DMC
You'd be missing out on entire attacks. You don't lose access to any major options at Lv.1 2FM because they're gained through the story/growth abilities and it mostly serves to increase the damage you take while removing crutches (which is what higher difficulties in action games do).
Also, ignoring items entirely IS considered the standard in DMC. They trivialize the game to the point where you can win every fight through a pause menu, which is far worse than anything grinding can accomplish in KH.
You won't be hitting that damage during normal gameplay.
By that logic, every game has a damage cap, defined by the greatest number the engine can handle.
It's only an issue when it actually hinders the gameplay, like if you hit damage cap too often, like in FFT for example.
What was that about confidence you fucking incel?
>no the problem is japs switched from generic fantasy stories to weebshit anime teenagers in high school and their after school activities include fighting evil in poorly designed outfits
You're not describing "japs" in gerneral, but basically square after kingdom hearts hit.
Also great example of what OP was talking about. KH poisoned the well so superbad it's the first thing people think of when you mention jrpg.
KH is a shit franchise overall though, I specify KH2 as the standout for a reason. Nomura is a hack. DMCucks are cancer and I put them in their place justifiably. Never played FFXV. Looks like you have the wrong guy.
>it’s the first thing people think of when you mention jrpg.
No that would still be VII.
They tried making the games too complicated. Every jRPG had systems stacked on subsystems and gimmicks, none of them fun or interesting, just convoluted. I mostly blame FF8.
You see, that kind of unhinged thinking is why you're a virgin. Because you are quite literally unhinged.
You have no filter. You'd probably call up your mom right now to brag that you're defending kingdom hearts on the internet against some mean bully. Then she'll just roll her eyes and say "that's nice sweetie" hang up and wonder where it all went wrong and if getting you that ps2 you begged for so hard was a good idea after all.
JRPGs in general haven't evolved since the PS2.
Well yeah if you play on normal it's not gonna be challenging. Try playing on proud or critical some time.
That's what made KH so cool, you could play it casually and have to cool flashy fun or you could play on a high difficulty and really explore the mechanics by doing all the optional end game shit and actually getting good.
If you're talking about plot, then sure.
If you're talking about combat, then hell no, KH 2 and Witcher 3 are two arpg and the latter is a bundle of shit even though it came 10 years later
>That's what made KH so cool
KH was never cool. You're just autistic kh-kun.
Keep projecting fag. You're the one acting tough on the internet about how cool and confident he is while also being too scared to be open about his private interests because he's insecure someone might thinks he's weird.
I'm not like that cringy kid in middle school haha, I'm totally confident. Please accept me.
Seething
Fuck you Barry, eat a bullet.
Liking kingdom hearts is as embarrassing as being a diaperfurry, it's just something that people who arent cringe arent into. So there's no issue here.
It's also why you're extremely lame and quite possibly a virgin.
I think it has more to do with the decline of Final Fantasy itself, which was THE JRPG series in the west, the benchmark to which all others were compared. Now even Square-Enix has given up and turned the two most recent FF games into action RPGs.
>cringe
>virgin
You sound like a teenage girl.
I love how barry made these images and everyone just started spamming them.
Good job retards.
Kingdom Hearts is not a JRPG