How do you even play game like Dark Souls, let alone FPS, using a controller?

How do you even play game like Dark Souls, let alone FPS, using a controller?
My sister bought a PS4 recently and I heard people say Dark Souls play better with a controller than a keyboard so I tried it a bit but it almost unplayable for me. Is it a matter of getting use to it?

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>Is it a matter of getting use to it?
Yeah pretty much.

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Yeah, controller is way better, but if you don't have any experience with controller, you don't have any experience with a controller. Thus, you have to learn to use an input device from zero.
I have met several people like this, and for example moving camera with right stick is like trying to learn typing from zero, horrible.

would that be your little sister?

post your sister's feet

Do you just never play games with a controller user? It should go without saying that when one method is better than another it only applies for people who are comfortable with both input methods.

Dark Souls is fine on a controller.
Playing FPS on a controller, at least one without gyro, is an absolute meme though. There's good reason console FPS are riddled with all kinds of assists to make aiming even possible.

This is basically me. I've occasionally tried, but it's utterly baffling to me and I usually give up in under an hour.

Feels really weird given it's how so many normally play games. Guess I'm just stuck on PC forever/

>for example moving camera with right stick is like trying to learn typing from zero, horrible.
Yeah, that's my main gripe with it right now.

Do you just never play games with a controller user?
My last used of a controller was back in PS1 era

Yeah, it's no biggie, you ain't missing anything.
But if you are really into vidya it's a skillset that can come handy.

>My last used of a controller was back in PS1 era
You'll just have to get used to it. It's like anything, practice makes perfect.

I've been using a controller since GoldenEye on the N64, that game also made me a filthy inverted and I love it.
I am shit with a M+KB though.

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I was a M+K for everything player that was completely spastic at using the controller in the "normal" two thumbstick setup in 3D games when I started playing Dark Souls in like 2015. That game pretty much trained me up from zero and I'm now adequate, although I'd never play an FPS that way.

It's a matter of not being autistic

Jesus the levels of underage on this board

You guys know m/k players beat controller ones in FPS games by like 600% right

Maybe I should start with Dark Souls 1 too.

my brother who is 12 yo and first time holding a controller had no problem grasping how it works after few hours playing dark souls. YOu are just retarded and please kys

you should fuck your sister

DS2 or DS3 might be better for it just because they don't have a bunch of annoying tightrope sequences. Although maybe those accelerated my learning.

> and for example moving camera with right stick is like trying to learn typing from zero

As someone who grew up with inverted camera this is still an issue for me in games that don't support it. Genuinely cannot play A Hat in Time because it doesn't support inverted

>tfw used to play alien isolation with the d-pad
it was a different time

What did you use the d-pad for

meant to say alien resurrection goddammit

movement

Controller has 360 degrees of both movement and camera that function independently of each other. M+KB has 8 degrees of movement unless it's slaved to the mouse. Just play for 10 minutes with the controller and you'll realise how much better it is for games designed around it.

>How do you even play game like Dark Souls using a controller?
Very easily as it was designed around one and was essentially required for the PC port.

I use both but KB+M for shooters, Wheel for racers, controller for games like RF or Harvest Moon or JRPGs and other slow low skill games and sticc for flight sims

I'm comfortable with both. I usually prefer using a controller for 3rd person but can't stand it with FPS.

yes and no mouse look is a billion times better and you have more than 8 degrees of movement since strafing is affected by mouse so you can do really smooth circles if you are good at strafing and looking and keeping your mouse at a good speed relative to it (i.e. bunny hopping)

The mouse is the only adventage of kb+m, the keyboard is garbage and the ability to map so many key is barely usefull when most of it is hard to reach fast during gameplay, not to mention how you'll have to memorize everything.
You don't need precise mouse aiming for Dark Soul, so the controller is better. The End.
Saying this as a total PC fag.

some games are made for controllers and no amout of PCMASTERSOUCE can deal with this problem.

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>game seems fun to play with a controller
>it has shit/no controller settings

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I have severe wrist pains from carpal tunnel or tinnitus or whatever
Literally cannot use my right hand anymore anymore so i only play with controllers now. Played Bioshock 1 and 2 recently and honestly it wasnt bad.
Playing sekiro and dark souls is just perfect. You dont get the nuanced joystick movement with just WASD
Although im gonna miss being eagle in csgo and getting headshots in split seconds

>grew up having a PS2
>got an xbox 360 later on
>decided to build a PC when the 7th gen was over
>bought a ps4 for the exclusives, granting me access to the dualshock 4
How can a person never in their lives experience what it's like to use a controller? If you play videogames you'll have to use one at some point

I thought Dragon's Dogma had the best melee action setup for m+k I ever played. It's designed for soft lockon with a very fast camera.

Plus you have instant pinpoint m+k accuracy with your bow secondary.

It was possible to get through the ps2 gen never having played a real dual stick modern camera setup game. Stuff like armored core still had brainfuck '90s controls until the very very end of the gen. If you had other shit going on during the 360 era and didn't play many games you could have just missed the boat.

post some games made for controllers

Controller/gamepad optimal:
>third person, fighting games

M+K optimal
>strategy and first person games

The dual analog sticks always handle much better for the former. It’s like using the mouse with your thumb

>controller is better the end
eh not really more keys on a keyboard means you can do ALOT more with control styles and "memorizing" really? I just know it off of feel means it has a higher skill ceiling

Dark Souls is a fucking abomination on m&kb, and I played it on pc on m&kb, not having touched a controller since psx.
I replayed it years later on a controller, and it’s a completely different game.
I still can’t aim worth shit with sticks, though.

This. I went PS1->GC->PS3 and the first game to force me to learn dual sticking was Killzone. Horrible experience btw.

I actually played through the entire Souls franchise with KB+M, this is how it was set up, it was fairly comfortable
>Movement: WASD
>Light attack: X
>Heavy attack: C
>Shield: Shift
>Shield heavy/parry: CTRL
>Interact: Q
>Items: E
>Cycle through items: directional arrows
>Dodge: spacebar
>Menu: ESC
All in all it was pretty good and I actually didn't do too bad. Go ahead and try it, it's not that bad. The only issue is that you can't walk slowly

Modern controller experiences are very different from how they used to be in the early 2000s.
I never had a PS3/360 gen console, I went from the Gamecube to the PS4 and it took some getting used to. Shit like the sticks being clickable threw me for a loop for a bit

My parents wouldn't let me get a console until I could make enough to buy it and my own tv, so I grew up pc gaming.
Completely missed ps1 and ps2 eras and got my first console in 2008 with a ps3 - I still suck at shooters because I can't precision aim with an analog stick, even after 12 years

Forgot to mention it but I also didn't use the mouse at all, I used IJKL to move the camera around. So basically I only used the keyboard.

>because I can't precision aim with an analog stick
No one can. Sticks are just bad for aiming.

Do you know what the +M in KB+M stands for?

There is still a big skill gap with an analog stick between me and my friends who have religiously bought every COD game since 4 and played each one to death.
Certainly doesn't help that I also think cod is a piece of shit.

>didn't use the mouse at all
what the fuck

I beat DMC3 with mouse and keyboard when I was about 15 on yellow mode because I didn't know what it changed, so yeah, I can pretty much do anything

everyone did that

Because it's an arcade hallway shooter with obscene hitboxes

You can't aim well with your thumb as opposed to intuitive aiming with your arm and wrist. It's non comparable

probably had a hand-me-down laptop with just a touchpad, life finds a way user

Melee attacks with the triggers really fucks with me.

most of the aiming in console COD is done through pre-positioning of your view since you really can't do accurate fast movements with analog sticks, no matter how experienced you are.

Then why doesn’t the army use a mouse for drone operators?

the mouse in dark souls 2 was fucked up, basically every time you clicked the game would wait to see if you were double clicking
So basically you click MOUSE1 and your attack comes out a second later. It was so unplayable I just rebound to the keyboard and eventually I realized I was just using the mouse to move the camera around so I just rebound it to the keyboard and it worked fine.

>I heard people say Dark Souls play better with a controller than a keyboard
I found myself playing with a controller just because the keybindings were retarded and there was some fuckery involved in changing them, jap pc ports tend to be very lazy about such things.
The only games i'd say are better on a controller are fighting games and games like bayonetta that are designed around making combos out of the limited buttons you have and don't translate well to having a full keyboard, you're not missing out with dark souls.

K+M wasn't designed for games in the first place and modern controllers were designed with very specific type of game in mind. Mouse is good at precision, moving from specific point to specific point. Keyboard allows you to map insane amount of inputs, but those inputs can't be gradual. Modern controler is optimised for traversing 3d spaces, at the cost precision and amount of possible inputs. Only few games work ideally with those two setups.

Dark Souls is closer to Super Mario 64 than it is to Starcraft. It doesn't require that many inputs or precision, but at the same time it doesn't benefit from analog controls in any way so its 50/50 and comes down to preference.