>Apparently, Yas Forums hates complexity, realism, and immersion
The absolute state of nu Yas Forums. This must change
Apparently, Yas Forums hates complexity, realism, and immersion
Joseph Richardson
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Ryder Torres
>>Apparently, Yas Forums hates complexity, realism, and immersion
>The absolute state of nu Yas Forums. This must change
Angel Hall
>waaaaaahhh i hate that user post
Levi Harris
>When your feefees are so hurt over some random game that you make cope images and seethe threads.
Aiden Hernandez
>when you can't tolerate good game mechanic, so you sperg over one thread and whining about it's complexity, realism, and immersion
Heads to the wall, user
Josiah Bell
Nothing described in that image sounds like "good" game mechanics. It sounds like monotonous busywork.
Jaxon Ross
>When you never do any of that, but crybaby OP starts making up boogeymen in his head.
Nolan Reyes
That's what casullfag said in that image. Whine about how much time you have to spend to take care of your weapon condition
Joshua Martin
Kono yarou
Luke Lee
It did nothing.
Oliver Lopez
Shit games do not excuse good art direction.
Evan Moore
kuso... i need this
HENSHIN
Blake Baker
t.casullfag
Bentley Taylor
>Most of Yas Forums are people between 16 to 39 who are mostly into colorful games or cartoony realism nowadays they can post about on Twitter
Shocking. Absolutely shocking, I say.
Wyatt Reyes
good thread
Hudson Martin
>Not using Muteki
It's as if you are asking to lose
Liam Thompson
Realism is detrimental in anything that isn't an RPG or a sim. Prove me wrong.
Easton Murphy
>good thread
Kevin Cooper
O9hh guyse I'm cooooomiiing
Bentley Rodriguez
From the way the anons are describing it, it's just busy work and damage sponge enemies with horseshit AI.
Dominic Wood
Don't worry, I have one
>DOCKING
>BAKKAN
Dylan Thompson
>RPG
>realism
Why would you need realism in a game when you have to cast fire spell in your finger to slay the dragon?
Connor Mitchell
>busyworks
Casulfag always complain any compleity as busy works. Clearly if they just read at least one guide to maintain your weapon in it's optimal performance, that would be nice. If they complain to keep their weapon in-check as busyworks, then they deserve nothing but Barbie Horse Adventure
>damage sponge
Depend on what armor the enemy using. If you expect to go full John Wick to one hit from your PM against high ranking exoskeleton Freedom/Duty NPC, then you play this game wrong
>horseshit AI
the only thing I agreed from you. AI need more tweaking
Nathaniel Price
user, the only games where you have to gather and/or craft basic resources where it ISN'T busywork are ones that eventually allow you to automate or avoid it to some major extent I.E. minecraft, with mending tools and shulker boxes and shit.
Weapon maintenance is one thing, especially if it's done through a unique system where you have to, say, select your materials, grindstone, polish, or whatever.
Collecting bullets manually, in single digit numbers, for guns that consume them in the double digits, is another.
Once again I don't know the specifics of the game, if this is genuinely just retardation from the anons I get it, but games with high TTK on your average weapon and a heavy discouragement to using better ones (like having to collect bullets painstakingly slowly) are generally pretty fucking boring.
And yeah, AI spraying bullets like crazy and seeing you through foliage just sounds bad.
Oliver Martinez
Anyway, the game is STALKER Anomaly.
Sure, crafting system in Minecraft isn't busyworks. Because you know what to do. You know how to craft wooden axe because you know it, either by your instinct or read the wiki. If this can apply in Minecraft, why can't STALKER Anomaly? Don't give me "muhh gun nut belongs to /k/" bs, I'm not a gun nut too. But at least I know that if my AKS-74 barrel went dud, I have to file it's inner barrel. Beside, if manual weapon maintenance are too much to handle, you can bring it to certain trader and ask him to fix it.
>Collecting bullets manually
You can collect in bulk just hit ctrl+left mouse
Caleb Wood
No, the crafting system in Minecraft avoids being busywork because by the endgame, you have Mending-enchanted diamond tools/armor and an experience farm, so you never need to manually make a replacement or put much effort into repairing them. You also have farms, likely automated or manned by villagers, for food, potion ingredients, sometimes even materials like gold and iron, as well as ender pearls and shit.
About the only things you can in no capacity "farm" for in Minecraft are dirt, sand, and gravel, which is hilariously ironic as they're perceived as cheap, but are the biggest pain to get by the endgame, everything else can be handed to you ad infinitum once you build a farm.
THIS is how you avoid a crafting/gathering system being busywork. Once a player has proven mastery of it, they can fucking ignore it.
Cooper Williams
One of the posts in there is literally complaining about a lack of realism, though.
>one person dislikes STALKER, therefor, everybody on Yas Forums dislikes STALKER
BTW, if you're trying to separate people into camps, I routinely advocate for more sexy women in proper games that are made to break 1 million copies sold. There's room for both, and I actually would't want a gaming industry with just one aesthetic and no freedom to tell a different kind of story.
Aiden Brooks
>you have Mending-enchanted diamond tools/armor and an experience farm, so you never need to manually make a replacement or put much effort into repairing them
Yes, because you acknowledge this beforehand. Either by wiki or guided by your instict, doesn't matter. To acquire such feature, you need to know how to do it. Some progressing craftwork need to be done in order to have such tools/armor.
>Automated farm
The almost same concept applied in STALKER Anomaly. You can recruit a squad to acompany you, patrol surrounding you, send to certain location to take and hold, raid enemy base with them, etc.
Once player know how the territory system works to generate bucketload of money (in a STALKER world where everything is as pricey as Dubai), they can fucking ignore all the hassle.
>THIS is how you avoid a crafting/gathering system being busywork. Once a player has proven mastery of it, they can fucking ignore it.
Fair point. This should apply in next Anomaly update, if the devs are listening here
>one person dislikes STALKER, therefor, everybody on Yas Forums dislikes STALKER
Clearly the major concensus in that thread hate STALKER because "le busywork, muh too complex" bullshit
>complaining about a lack of realism, though.
How?
Dominic Lewis
>How?
One of the posts in that pic is complaining about how they can see you through thicket and how they drop two bullets and unusable parts.
Evan Hernandez
That would be AI being autistic
Same apply in Tarkov when poorly equipped scav can detect you in perfect darkness
Nicholas Clark
user, from what I can tell, the game the anons in the screencap are bitching about NEVER lets up on the grind. As a matter of fact, the grind only gets worse as you progress into the later segments of the game, a direct contrast to Minecraft.
In other words, that as soon as you gain the ability to ignore one portion of it, you're expected to start manually gathering or assembling resources in some other, slightly more complex manner. Am I wrong?
Minecraft starts letting up on it from moment one. You go from manually chopping trees in a forest you find to having a tree farm instantly, and wood remains a useful resource throughout the game.
Jaxson Lee
Apparently Yas Forums recognizes and hates tedium while many game developers and mod developers simply can't figure out why because they were dropped on their soft little heads.
Angel Green
>never let's up grind
Strange that I didn't experience what they're bitching about. You start as a poorfag scavenger that wear nothing but a simple rags, only armed with simple pistol or sawn off shotgun. After do few quest and earn much money, you can allocate it to either buy better armor or better guns (or maybe upgrade your early gun to perfection). Do quests, find artifacts that may worth fifty thousands bucks, buy better gears, hire squad to help your ass out. The grind gets better once you're equipped with high tier armor and weapons, then encounter high ranking NPC with exoskeleton and assault rifles once you're progressing. Rinse and repeat until you're numero uno Stalker in leaderboard.
If this won't let you to grind, I don't know what is. They maybe said that because the learning curve is a bit steep (which I feel almost the same way as they did when I first time playing it).
Camden White
Elijah Sullivan
>enemies shoot rapid fire, see right through the thick vegetation, but drop only two bullets and unusable weapon parts
That's so annoying
Jack Sanders
AI is clusterfuck, sure. Tarkov did this and no one give a shit
>i can't write a solid argument, so here a shitty ms paint image instead
Nathaniel Allen
He's right, scavenging for resources is worse than fetch quests.
Gabriel Miller
>Tarkov did this and no one give a shit
I did though
Andrew Price
Where's your complaint?
Where's everyone complaints?
Easton Evans
>immersion
Can't hate what doesn't exist in mentally healthy people.
Jace Hill
ok casulfag
Go play Ben 10 flash games or something
Carter Bailey
....? Mentally healthy people never LARP? They never read books? Watch movies?
Connor Lee
You are correct. I hate all three of those things. If I wanted realism I can go outside. Same thing with "immersion", I'm not trying to he fooled into thinking something is real, that's just mental illness. And too much complexity drags a game down. Better to do a few mechanics well than have a a couple dozen half baked ideas. Resident Evil 4 vs 6 is a good example.
Carson Carter
Then this is the game you deserve
Joshua Howard
owned
Lincoln James
Complexity is fine if it's not just there to be there and give people boners by figuring it out even though simpler mechanics would be good enough. Realism is fucking awful and has next to no place in vidya whatsoever. Immersion is whatever. I've liked being immersed in some games but in others I don't care that much.
I'm surprised you made a thread because you got triggered this hard over a few posts though.
Brayden Roberts
>realism is fucking awful
Dude, are you lost couple of match in Arma 3 or something
>I'm surprised you made a thread because you got triggered this hard over a few posts though.
So does some people in vidya that mad about something. We will MAD about something, one day
Cameron Hughes
Alexander Ross
I've literally never played arma because the idea of playing a realistic fucking war shooter makes me want to vomit.
Wyatt Ward
Heads on the wall, then. You're not belong here
Easton Young
Holy moly there's literally no conversation in this thread, just shitty reddit wojak memes back and forth arrowposting trying to one-up eachother with zero actual content .
Levi Parker
even the filename is assmad. this guy is seething over an anonymous person disagreeing with him
Jacob Gomez
Your game is garbage.
Easton Foster
the irony
Chase Parker
THEN WHY DID YOU COME TO THIS THREAD
To get mad?
To seethe to others?
bruh
Landon Cruz
Oh this is my first post, I came in here to see the counterarguments and there was none. Both sides are fucking retarded. I'd say it's funny, but it's honestly more sad than anything else.
Chase Anderson
What a strange way to call yourself
Samuel Barnes
Anomaly and Misery fucking sucks
Go back to Discord you pathetic faggot
Kayden Brooks
>Hazbin Hotel
Yikes
Josiah Ramirez
literally, unironically, dial 8
John Carter
Go play kids flash game, you twittard
Yas Forums is for hardcore gamer
Wyatt Ward
I like how you managed to make your response both childish and impotent.
Nathan Ross
Nigga, everyone here are act like that. Pls don't tell me this is your first time in Yas Forums
Levi Richardson
It's a good show, my mtf gf showed it to me
Sorry sweetie
Anthony Walker
Jacob Torres
t.gaylord
Any show that show homosexualism must be banned
Elijah Gray
>mfw you're seething
Ethan Edwards
That's it, heads on the wall
Volkspolizei! Tatakae!
Austin Perry
>67 posts
>28 ips
Brody Cook
Oh kay
Benjamin Perez
I never liked shooting games in the first place, so I don't care that someone badmouthed your precious slav-shit.
Jayden Ramirez