so this meme was made approximately a decade ago. how accurate did its predictions turn out?
the future of jrpgs
>Pushing the boundaries of the medium yet again, top notch upcoming games will provide entertainment their western counterparts couldn't even hope to live up to.
>the future of wrpgs
Yay, more action games. One with waifus and inconsequential illusion of choice with no actual effects, and the other with nothing but some good old fetch quests. Nice!
>*coughs ephermally
imagine actually posting bait this retarded
It’s incredible how much nuclear ass pain this picture radiates.
>Pushing the boundaries of the medium yet again, top notch upcoming games will provide entertainment their western counterparts couldn't even hope to live up to.
Dragon Quest rehash, a remake of a PS1 game, visual novel dating sims?
Yeah, that meme sure aged well.
lets not forget for right side: 'lazy mechanics without any QC, where every challenge is outgrindable so normies can also have a fun time'.
>Kefka
>God
Biased and gay
Why are weebs so delusional
just admit your slightly autistic and enjoy stories made for children
>JRPG premises
Not a single one of that is a "premise".
Learn the meaning of words
I just wanted to shit on people who like Skyrim's combat just because it isn't turn base.
>wanting to play as a pre-existing character and not making your own backstory/unique loadout
>preferring turn-based over real-time/pausable real-time
stop posting cringe, faggot
System Shock 2, Deus Ex, Dark Souls and Baldur's Gate are shining examples of RPGs. Mass Effect, FO, and TES are just ok
this, so much this!
>load up modern jrpg
>20 minute cutscene about a twink
>uninstall
>wants to correct someone on a term
>doesn't know the meaning of the term within context
Why are you even here, brainlet?
WRPGS ARE AWESOME
flawless post
Wrpgs are the best thing that exist
Must be some mistake, DOS2 is listed twice in that image.
Dragon Quest is the ideal litmus test for who has no taste in JRPGs. Some people like JRPGs for the plot, some people like JRPGs for the complex gameplay, and some people like JRPGs because seeing numbers go up while a bland hero's journey plays out in the background makes them happy. The third group can safely be ignored when it comes to topics about JRPGs.
If someone likes plot, you can have a rousing discussion about which JRPGs have had the most thrilling plots or well-written characters or so on. If someone likes complex gameplay, you can have a nice discussion about which JRPG challenged you the most or which was the most mentally invigorating to play.
If someone just likes numbers going up, then there's no discussion to be had. They don't put thought into the games they're playing. Main character? Might as well be silent. Plot? Don't be too complex, they'll lose track of what's going on. Complex gameplay? They'll grind to skip it, or complain if they can't. Just plop a silent Hero on screen so they can spam default attacks and giggle as their level goes up. They'll even rave about how they're the "pinnacle of JRPGs", because for some reason stripping out everything that makes JRPGs good - the capacity for more elaborate plots and the complexity of the gameplay - is a peak to them and not a nadir.
So yeah. If someone says DQ is their favoruite JRPG series or anything like that, you know to ignore them. I have literally never met anyone who loves DQ and has good taste. At least when Final Fantasy fucks up (FF8) you end up with a fascinating game that's worth talking about. DQ manages to be consistently boring, lifeless, repetitive, and so on. Literally games for children that, logically enough, manchildren latch onto.
all this image conveys to me is that rpgs in general the world over are in dire straits. someone needs to give the genre a kick up the arse.
JRPGs all but died, a decent one comes out every like two to three years, but they have basically faded out of the culture of video games aside from a very small fanbase and nostalgiafags
Most Wrpgs are just generic Tolkien ripoffs filled to the brim with clichés and underdeveloped characters.
Sometimes they copy Star Trek or Mad Max, but those are pretty much all their references.
Wrpgs are probably the most soulless and generic kind of games you can find. And they couldn't write an interesting character or an engaging scene even if their lives depended on it.
>The Future
>Versus pic
Based and Etro-pilled
>Most Wrpgs are just generic Tolkien ripoffs
>superhero league of hoboken
Do you use special gloves when you put that much effort into cherry-picking?
I miss this Yas Forums
tl;dr
youre gay
i think adding SMT as a post apocalyptic fantasy setting would add more to this point than it detracts. weebniggers literally can't refute this though.
>Do you use special gloves when you put that much effort into cherry-picking?
Cherrypicking of what? It came out in the same year as rpgs like ff6 and earthbound, which dominate any rpg discussion
OLD BOARD GOOD
NEW BOARD BAD
All rpgs are inherently gay. If your first thought when beginning development of a game is "lets have everyone talk constantly and often, I love to write endless text boxes of dialogue. I guess it'll be a tps or something, whatever.", you're inherently lowering the quality of your game and anything you make can only be good in spite of your direction.
All wrpgs on your list are just ripoffs of Mad max, Tolkien or Star trek. Except for the urban fantasy ones, but Japan also makes these ones. Even YOUR Japanese list shows more variety: school settings, space opera, super robots, western, designs can be either realistic of cartoonish, time travel fiction, medieval fantasy, pirates...
>All wrpgs on your list are just ripoffs of Mad max, Tolkien or Star trek.
Just because you keep repeating this doesn't make it so. You have yet to provide a single example or argument to prove this.
>All wrpgs on your list are just ripoffs of Mad max, Tolkien or Star trek.
>wrpg set in 15th century germany is a mad max/tolkien/star trek ripoff
>Star Wars
>unique setting
>DnD
>unique
Yet 99% of the creatures, spells, classes, world building, etc. from jrpgs are taken from D&D and Star wars. Funny how that works.
>implying that any jrpg has better writing than kotor 2 (star wars) or planescape torment (d&d)
I wish I had the amount of free time and dedication Beepzorz puts into justifying his dislike for JRPGs. I don't think I could ever muster that kind of autism.
>I’ll just say 99% and I’ll win the argument! xd
Also let me guess, you must think DnD and Star Wars are somehow unique and that every trope was derived from them (including tropes from Tolkien and The Hidden Fortress)
>video games
>good writing
Why do WRPGfags keep saying this? Aesthetics are more important, and WRPGs have none
You don't need much time to make weebs melting.
Yes you moron, they are an unique setting. I fucking hate clueless pseudo-intelectual such as you who think you are being so clever by seeing any fantasy setting with elfs and dragons in it and then pointing out they are a rip off of Tolkion.
Sure enough, but to do it every single day for years on end?
>videogames have bad writing because I said so, also let me move the goal to a vague and broad field and say WRPG are bad at it just because
Fuck you, learn how to argue like an adult.
Not very accurrate... JRPGs went almost extinct on the past 20 years. Final Fantasy is dead, Chrono games are dead, Valkyrie profile games also dead, Star Ocean super dead and has been dead since SO III, KH 3 also shit. Most JRPGs now are Atelier tier or just copy the Tales of series. Literally the only good JRPGs in 2 decades have been Ni no Kuni and DQ XI (ok, maybe Octopath too).
It seems to me technological advances and the increasing costs of making AAA games killed the genre. Meanwhile WRPG, that where cluncky as fuck back in the day where able to capitalize on this. Divinity Original Sin 2 is not only beautiful but they made it to the point where you can interact with both terrain and environment to affect combat. Granted half of the games are still Skyrim clones or action games and all that focused on who you can have sex with rather than on plot and whatnot but at the very least some of the games still provide traditional archtype classes akin to the genre.
Overall i think both types are experiencing difficulties trying to change and stay relevant to the times but only a few of both sides actually manage that.
Just be glad that, unlike anime, at least Japanese games *have* western competition to bounce inspiration back and forth from, they're both still cool and unique, instead of just homogenised anime shite
>unremarkable musical scores
>picture of Gothic 3
This picture does a really bad at making WRPGs look bad. All it does is post decent examples from each side but with text that attempts to make WRPG seem worse without giving any real reason why and generalizing on purpose to make something seem worse.
The "production values" side is awful clearly nitpicking hard
>Why do WRPGfags keep saying this? Aesthetics are more important, and WRPGs have none
>Starring Jason Momoa as The Nameless One.
>copypasta table top rules into a video game with the same aesthetic as an existing game of another franchise is pushing the boundaries of what RPGs can do
Don't forget the biggest JRPG release of the year is a remake of a 20 years old game responsable for stagnating the JRPG market, released in episodic format, that ditched any resemblence of looking like an RPG by adopting a hack n' slah combat and is being made by a combat who admited they would only produce said game if they were ever in financial trouble.
Can someone recommend WRPGs with interesting gameplay that I could run on my toaster?
This might just be your second most dishonest pic, right after the one where you try to pretend a Doom map is from Thief.
not a single wrpg in that image is a copypasta of tabletop rules, except bg3, and even that is a very liberal adaptation that's making a bunch of changes
It's fucking hilarious how this thread ended up triggering JRPG fags more than WRPG fans. Wonder if that was secretly OPs intention or if he really thought he'd get no push back and just trigger a bunch of JRPG haters
It always is. It's just the usual Beep thread, where he pulls in anyone and everyone he can, so he can start posting the usual canned responses. It's the same shit every few days.
>dishonest
>when inventory tetris and paperdolls are entirely a western invention
even modern jrpgs with 100million dollar budgets like ffxv still don't even visualize items. items are just glowing blue orbs you find in the game world. and in jrpgs, if you drop items, they disappear into thin air, whereas even 30-year old wrpgs have items remain behind in the game world
Underrail.
That wasn't my point and you're completely aware of that, that's why you're extrapolating it further. You know exactly what is wrong with that comparison.
more like Denzel Curry
Might and Magic 3 go 8 (though 8 is the worst of the bunch, it's still fun)
6 and 7 were my personal favorites, but they're all pretty nice.
then what was your point?
That you're comparing the interfaces of PC and console games, for instance?
how does that pc vs console justify bland interface aesthetics?
So? Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire (GBA) have hundred of items, all of them with unique icons and descriptions