John Marston! Remember el nombre!

No you will use your console/pc to host a peer2peer server for everyone in the world to access to save rockstar a few pennies despite raking in billions from microtransactions. Also if you dont want to grind all week for a Lamborghini, it will cost $20 in shark cards and Another $20 to fully mod it. Oh yeah all those spam calls you get from lester to buy a night club and bunker and business, those cost hundreds in shark cards if you dont want to grind for almost all month long.

>still no undead nightmare 2
Its coming with the PS5 and X Series version r-right bros?...

What's even their endgame with RDOnline?
Given the setting they can't give you late Saints Row-tier crap to prolong their lifespan like they ended up doing with GTAO.

They'll probably attempt steam punk shit.

writing number in the desert sand

el nombreeee

One of the best John Marston lines
>When a man with a sing song voice tells me to fuck off it always concerns me, boyo.
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Only flaw the game had was not letting you use your outfits and to a lesser extent loadout when replaying missions.
What's the point of unlocking all these nice outfits when at the end of the day all you can do with them is roam around?

The writing is so much worse than the original. I couldn’t get invested into any of the characters because they all talk in the same overly-dramatic way with an obnoxiously limited vocabulary. I’m sure some jackass would say “that’s because they’re uneducated” but like I said, the first game didn’t have this problem and the characters were much more believable.

Also, the gameplay is only mediocre with a handful of really annoying quirks. I hate how Arthur constantly keeps putting away all of his weapons while riding, I’m sick of trying to quickly dismount the horse in a gunfight and having no fucking weapons available. I even hate that his full weapon cache is attached to the horse at all. What’s the point? He can’t stack 50 guns on his back but his horse can? It’s a game, just let people access the inventory.

The missions are way too scripted too. If you try to do any kind of shortcut the game changes the rules so you fail. Chasing someone on horseback that you have to keep alive? You might try shooting his horse to end the chase early, except now he automatically dies when he falls off even though random NPCs always survive. There are a million different things like this in the game. It sucks.

Nope. Enjoy your Red Dead Online DLC content.

john was so badass in 1 lol. the contrast from 2 is crazy

everything i've heard about RDR2 is like this. the painfully railroaded missions of GTA V but with an extra layer of "ugh" on everything

GTA:O was also quite empty at first, I could imagine that they’d also implement heists like a train robbery or reimagine the Fort Mercer assault. Also I could imagine that they will add Mexico as a DLC

Shit taste. The writing and characters in 2 are vastly better. I'll never forget how obnoxious the gravedigger or the drunk irish guy were in the first game

IM LOOKIN FOR BILLL HWILLIAMSONN

Not him but I enjoyed Irish and Seth, they added the right kind of R* flair what’s more infuriating were the missions associated with them

it feels like in 1 they talk about more varied topics. in 2 while on the ride-alongs they always just talk about the mission at hand, its kind of boring

Bill I IMPLORE you

how does a man browse Yas Forums and yet still have such a wrong opinion, truly boggling

The writing is actually great and if you go back to the first one there's a ton of heavy handed commentary that feels out of place. The biggest difference is RDR2, similar to GTA V from IV, has fewer truly "good" characters (like, lawful good, chaotic good) and feels messier because of it.

The over scripted missions are the worst part. Sneaking through an area? Well don't use your silent weapons, you will fail unless you only kill when prompted by your gang mates. Want to break through enemy lines during an open combat mission? Nope, enemy lines are out of bounds. The actual shooting isn't even that bad even if it is a little simple, but the missions are very poorly designed especially the "bigger" they're supposed to be.

UGH YEW STINK

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the mission design has been haunting R* for ages now, GTA IV is so weird when the whole gameplay is a complete antithesis to Nico’s character arc

rockstar really needs to make it possible to complete missions without committing violence. it feels retarded to play as a "i dont want to be a bad guy" character who always ends up having to kill thousands

Not even that but the casino heist in GTA Online is a good direction of mission design, you have the choice between 3 ways how you want to enter the casino and each one of them has multiple ways to approach the choice, and you’ll be rewarded for exploring the casino and scouting every nook and cranny. Sadly GTA:O is aimed at grinding and the AI is dogshit so it doesn’t work as intended and most of the mission is grinding and exploit searching to get the million dollars

Niggernometry.

Real talk though, the writing and characters were actually better in RDR2. The first game has Bonnie MacFarlane, Landon Ricketts, and Nigel West Dickens for good unique characters and that's about it. The plot is also better in 2; you move from place to place escaping the law and trying to find the next big score before Dutch fucks everything up. Each camp/chapter has a distinct feel to it and lots of little moments that add up to feel like an actual journey. "Chase these dudes from your old gang down" is way more simplistic and boring by comparison. The characters get fleshed out way more by all the tiny interactions too.
The little immersion-breaking quirks in the 2nd one suck dick though, like said. I think I tried getting into New Austin about half a dozen times before I realized the game was infinitely spawning enemies and you were automatically detected because they just didn't want you to be able to explore that area.
inb4 some Yas Forumsirgin spouts some nostalgic bullshit about the 1st game having the best writing ever

I think the real issue with Seth is that you don't get much of a conclusion.
Like, sure, you see him crushed when he opens the chest and finds only a glass eye but I think you can find a newspaper as Jack that reads that Seth eventually picked his life back up or something. It could have been nice to have a random encounter with him showing that.

i found the plot in 2 more boring because there really isn't any overarching goal for arthur to achieve, so you're kind of just going from camp to camp, doing missions until something happens that forces you to move. the goal of pretty much every mission is "we have to make money" until arthur gets sick, then it shifts into his redemption

i think in 1, knowing that john wants to hunt them down from the start makes the story more dramatic.

My favorite line in mexico was:
>You must be the "Pendejos" i keep hearing about!

Yeah, I got kinda tired of Arthur feeling bad and acting like he was making bad decisions (like killing people) when you often have no choice.
If I get chased down by some motherfucker and I don't want to waste them, I just lasso them to pull them off their horse, so I can get away. A nonlethal option would be great.

>one of the grave robbers shouts "i've got your pappys watch right here!"

Whats el nombre?

It's just kind of the story of the gang being forced out by civilization and of Arthur finding his place/purpose in the world as they chase after Dutch's obviously bullshit dream. It's definitely more freeform than RDR1, but that's why I liked it. It definitely has some low points, however, like the gang overpowering the crime lord of Saint Denis, Guarma, and Arthur's condition being kind of ass-pulled for the final chapter. It should have been brought up sooner.

Mexico made the game feel like such an adventure

The name

Why did RDR2 have to be so shit compared to RDR?

RDR 2 is better than 1, faggot.

I assume R* felt really clever with how Arthur starts coughing (though only in story missions and the like) early on after he gets infected.
You know, plenty of people had tuberculosis and lived relatively long, relatively comfortable lives afterwards.

Hello, R*

honestly you are just retarded. RDR 2 does have a goal. It's literally to survive. Dutch and his gang is unwilling to change and they are trying to outrun civilization. The funny thing is that both games ultimately have the same themes, but the 2nd one gets the point across in a much more interesting, compelling way.
In almost every side mission in the game, you dont have to kill anyone. You only have to kill all but 1 gunslingers because they literally have too much pride and provoke you, or just kill themselves if you shoot the gun out their hands. And why? Because side content = stuff that Arthur does on his own. The main missions are all doing Dutch's bidding. Arthur absolutely hates doing most of that stuff, which he starts complaining more and more as the game goes on. He does not enjoy killing whatsoever, but his loyalty to Dutch forces his hands.

Things that were superior in RDR1
>Classic GTA Vibe being 1/2 serious 1/2 light hearted
>Shooting enemies in certain locations actually mattered (Limping, etc)
>Actually having more than 4 duels and the dueling minigame being fun
>Horse riding is very simple and easy to master
>No horse maintenance
>No weapon maintenance
>No animation for every little thing
>Poker was 10x faster since you didnt have to watch the stupid ass winning hand crooked neck animation
>Liars Dice
>Online was better
>One of the Greatest Ex-paks of all time
Things RDR 2 did better
>Looked better
>More locations
>Hunting
>Gunplay (Aside from bullet locations not mattering)
Thats it. RDR2 is a slog and RDR1 is a joy through and through and I'd like to see the proof otherwise

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>Not this exchange

>Marston: I'm here for two men, and that's it.
>Abraham: You have been spending too much time with Captain De Santa.
>Marston: Very funny. Not like that. I'll explain later.

Rockstar has no idea what it's doing with RDO

I'd also argue RDR1's soundtrack was better, but that seems to be more controversial.

I'm , so you know.

"Don't get shot" isn't a goal, user.
And yeah, most side missions don't require murder.
But you have to kill loads of people in the main missions. And it's not always because of Dutch. Let's talk about busting Micah out of jail in Strawberry. Sure, Arthur is only there in the first place because of Dutch, but the player is forced to follow Micah around town on his rampage. If you don't kill the people shooting at him, he'll die and you'll fail the mission. If Arthur hates Micah and killing as much as he claims he does, he should've just fucked off after the jailbreak.

the only concern I have with RDR2 is how much men are faggots especially Arthur and John. WHITE MEN BAD, BLACK MEN GOOD ! WOMEN ARE STRONG AND CAN FIGHT LIKE MEN !

fuck it, everything related felt so forced and unatural. Look at the state of the online and their story missions. Look at these characters wtf my god ...

I'm still pissed that you can't cheat at poker in 2.

Goddamn RDR1 was simply the better game. Pure unadulterated kino. Also anybody remember pic related? Shit was cash, is RDR2 online any good?

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I put 160 hours into RDO, and after maxing out Moonshiner (which took like a week of on and off play) I haven't been on since like early January. There is just really no incentive for veteran players to fucking come back and play the game. All but one of my buddies dropped it after like a month and a half of playing it, and they've no incentive to come back either. From what I understand they still haven't fixed a good majority of bugs that have been present since before the Moonshiners update, they just keep pushing out these weekly updates with XP bonuses for roles or discounts on role equipment or whatever the fuck. It's all so tiresome.

RDR2 online is a buggy fucking mess. I played it a lot when I was home last year because I had a surgery, and it felt like wasted time really. Nothing like RDR1 online back then

Not to mention, the more shit they add to online, the more bugs pop up in the single-player campaign. It's fucking ridiculous.

RDR2 online is an embarrassment

Yep, I'm a huge RDR1 & RDR2 singleplayer fag, but RDR2's online is just god damn awful.

You know fine rightly it isn't

I know fine rightly fuck all. I don't have playstation plus so I never bothered.