NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST USE THE FORCE AS A TOOL FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT!

You ignorant fool, those fifty bucks will create an echo in the force and ripple through the galaxy forever.

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She yells at you when you do exactly that on nar shadda

based spookposter

the only real canon ending:
>randomly determine all moral dilemmas with a coin flip
>die to a wild animal on Malachor V before your final test

try psychoanalyzing that, you dry-cunted hag

No she doesn't.
It's the why not the what

Okay, cool, I'll take that lesson to heart and use it as a tool for the benefit of others.

Yes she does. Force persuade the thugs at the start to fuck off and she REEEEEEEEEEEEEEs

True fans can rip on a game they enjoy, m8.

>She would criticize anything you would do, that's bad writing.
Lets put aside the fact that you're completely wrong. Refusing to suck the player's dick does not make bad writing.

Yes I can

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Every single issue people had with TLJ being jarring tonally as a story in the SW universe is 1000x more blatant in KOTOR 2.

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Stirner's philosophy: "How can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real?"

yes, but KotoR2 doesn't suck as much shit as TLJ does

Yes
Similar ideas but done well and done terribly

You can start a kotor2 thread without a shitty wojak, op.

TLJ was a joke movie hastily edited last minute into something even worse

One is a stupid videogame. The other is KOTOR2.

copy/paste nigger

Can we please stop having kotor2 threads? The newfags make discussing this game unbearable. I would rather they just die forever at this point.

>Every single issue people had with TLJ being jarring tonally as a story in the SW universe is 1000x more blatant in KOTOR 2.
Oh yeah, I totally remember the fat ugly asian love interest in Kotor 2

Does anyone have the Kreia reaction image where she's drawn in a speccific Yas Forums style (she has a big nose). I don't know to describe it.

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>le mary sue is only person in galaxy to stop invincible threat who's conviniently only weak vs her and the immortal sith lord that hates everything and lives from hate itself falls in love with her on first sight allowing le mary sue to win. le boring re-used mainstream planets, le boring characters with no real storyline = visas le submissive bimbo gf, mira le quirky hothead ginger, le evil wookie, goto lol, t3 lol, hk47 le quirky kotor 1 references, brianna le tomboy, disciple le nerd, atton le quirky misterious past boy, kreia le gray good blackwhite bad
>dantooine lol go kill mercenary and animal, u no wanna kill mercenary? then go kill outpost xD, go press computer commands
>nar shadaa le go run around in circles talking to literal whos killing shitty bounty hunters
>telos YIKES
>koriban, do k1 but worse
>onderon, lol go kill animals for mandalorians and then choose between two literal who factions in some shitty city you couldn't care less for because of bad character development and uninteresting plot/Characters
>shit ending that proves kreia is a flawed character and the sith lords were absolute shit compared to the mary sue. provides no ending nor does it really make you question anything, all that is said either was very obvious or false.
>full of glitches and cut shit
The game misses everything George Lucas set up in his universe. It comes from a place of spite and not understanding the source material like TLJ.

Then, discuss stuff like character builds and secrets and shit. Otherwise we're just gonna keep on getting threads filled with newfags who didn't play the game more than once and totally misunderstand Kreia because they're butthurt they had to deal with a binary choice for one dialogue.

>like TLJ

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>It comes from a place of spite
Maybe
But it is the best written star wars

>YIKES as an argument

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I want to make melee monk as Jedi Guardian or force user with blaster pistols as Jedi Sentinel on my next playthrough.

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KOTOR 1 is a better Star Wars story then KOTOR 2 will ever be because it understands its setting

>KOTOR 1 is a better Star Wars story
Agreed
Which makes it a worse story overall

It's literally copypaste of atmosphere from original films but still pretty good one. For me K1 = K2. Each one have its own cons and pros.

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>the OP uses the same bait image
>a slightly different bait text
>the thread is exactly the same as yesterday

you fucking idiots

>lovecraft niggerman threads disappear
>these threads start appearing
hmmmmm

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She's mad that you gave away her pretzel funds

Literally the same arguments TLJ defenders make when attacking the OT or PT

It’s just a joke bro chill

I've never done barehand builds, but I've done blaster jedi before. Consular/Marauder is wild. You get Consular's special feats for the higher DC for force powers, and unlike Weapon Master, Marauder's special feats applies extra damage to all weapons instead of just melee weapons. Get you some upgraded mando rippers/disintegrators and just about everything dies in one rapid shot. I had lots of fun.

>KOTOR 1 is a better Star Wars story then KOTOR 2 will ever be because it understands its setting

When will this meme end? Kotor 1 completely shits on its source material. The game is supposed to take place in the Old Republic Era, 4000 years before the movies, which was extensively fleshed out in the expanded universe. It was a more primitive universe with its own take on Star Wars tropes.

So what did Bioware do when they made a game set in the Old Republic? They completely got rid of anything unique or distinctive and just copied everything from the movies. Not just every single plot point, but even the level of technology and society.

Obsidian tried to bring back setting-appropriate stuff like the Beastriders of Iziz in the sequel, but by then it was already too late to reverse the damage Bioware had done to the setting.

should i post threadshot? I don't want to spoonfeed newfags but really want to post that image.

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TLJ is done poorly
Kotor 2 is done better than most of Lucas Star Wars and all the sequels

Based retard

Because KOTOR 2 has many similar themes as TLJ, but it’s actually done well. Learn to think critically please

>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST DO THING

>KOTOR 1 is a better Star Wars story then KOTOR 2 will ever be because it understands its setting
Kotor 1 doesn't 'understand' anything. It's a 1:1 copy-pasta of the movies, with not a single original thought of its own.

Kotor 2 is the better story by virtue of actually being a story and not just glorified fan service.

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I actually shit at making builds in DnD based games.I just lo make unique builds .Spoonfeed me on DC.

>its well done
It's really not

Its rushed as hell
Writing wise it is leagues above most star wars

Are you niggas retarded? KOTOR 1 made the mandalorians an interesting if decidedly still evil faction.

>KOTOR 1 is a better Star Wars story then KOTOR 2 will ever be because it understands its setting

>limp bizkit reference
>lazily copying the d&d tropes from bioware's previous games
>"understand its setting"

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>Are you niggas retarded? KOTOR 1 made the mandalorians an interesting if decidedly still evil faction.
You're talking about Kotor 2, where you actually get to interact with them and help Mandalore rebuild the Mandalorians.

I don't recall a single anything interesting aabout Mandalorians form Kotor 1.

KOTOR 2 took everything Mandalorian from KOTOR 1

This.
They were just another type of enemy you could encounter on Dantooine, Kashyyyk and that tropic planet. That's it. In K2 they took part in main plot of the game. And even have their own quest on Onderon.

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Please explain to me how the star forge's backstory, the Rakutans or Revan are anything like the material from the OT or PT.

>KOTOR 2 took everything Mandalorian from KOTOR 1
No, it didn't. Kotor 1 basically has zero world building. It's 4000 years before the movies... yet things look exactly the same. There is a war going on...yet none of the planets show any sign of that. Revan fell to the darkside...yet the game never explains why.

Kotor 2 is single-handedly responsible for 99.99% of the lore in the Kotor games.

>Opens with the Sith shooting down a Republic ship, with their target getting away in an escape pod
>Hero is told they have to find a Jedi
>Heroes meet scoundrel+wookie duo in cantina
>Hero has to win a swoop race to free someone from captivity
>Female lead is captured, but breaks free and kills her capturer
>Hero is told they're force-sensitive and this is why they're so good at swoop racing
>Heroes meet a guy in a Cantina who offers access to a ship off-planet, which is named after a bird, supposedly the fastest in the sector and described by the owner as not looking like much
>Hero taken to Jedi Council for training, although some Jedi reluctant to do so due to "person's age"
>Yoda clone
>Astromech droid and protocol droid that bicker with each other
>Sith hire bounty hunter to kill heroes
>Hero built their own protocol droid
>Old Jedi living as a hermit joins the hero
>Awkward personality droid translates Sand People speech for heroes
>Underwater section with a giant fish wreaking havoc
>Kolto, a healing fluid that's a precursor to bacta
>Ship caught in tractor beam. Crew plan "alternatives to fighting" before being taken in, but end up fighting anyway
>Heroes run around to disable the necessary systems so that the ship can escape
>Villain is disfigured Sith Lord with cybernetic parts
>Villain makes surprise appearance. Han Solo type tries to shoot him and fails
>"I am your Father" type reveal. Jedi friend knew
>Jedi friend stays behind to fight main bad guy so that others may escape
>Main threat is a weaponized space station capable of destroying planets
>Republic/Sith square off in front of space station that's being protected by a shield generator disruptor field on a nearby world
>Heroes disable disruptor field, defeating the Sith who were waiting for them
>Hero/villain fight in observation deck overlooking said Republic/Sith battle
>Ends with award ceremony

Revan identity revealing is based on ep 5 revealing of Darth Vader identity. Star Forge is literally another super weapon plot device.

>star forge
Literally just
>we need a superweapon like the death star

While I agree that an rpg should pose difficult choices for the player, we don't see anything similar in kotor2.
witcher and vtmb did it but kotor didn't.
It's simply whining for the sake of it, there so no ingame consequence for it.
Purely cosmetic in true bioware fashion.
>in before obshitian
They are cheap bioware copies.

Also this.

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The sixth sense is now a Star Wars movie I guess

>the OT or PT.
Kotor 1 was already nearly done when Attack of the clones came out, so it couldn't rip that off, or Revenge of the Sith. It did rip off Phantom Menace heavily, as seen in >Revan
what about Revan is original? He's just a generic Sith Lord. Kotor 1 never explains why Revan fell to the darkside. The plot in Kotor 1 is literally "Revan and Malak wake up one day and decide they want to betray the Jedi, conquer the galaxy and murder billions of people for fun". The game never even hints at any underlying motivation for them to do this. That only happens in Kotor 2.

>the star forge's backstory, the Rakutans
I'll grant you it's original (the only original aspect of Kotor 1), but it's also fucking retarded. Literally the dumbest shit anyone ever came up with in the EU, and that's saying a lot considering all the dumb shit in the EU. The idea that these goofy lizardmen are this ancient precursor race that are the most powerful race that ever existed, the oldest wielders of the Force and basically created the star wars universe as we know it makes it impossible to take the setting seriously.

The whole ancient protospecies thing feels very antithetical to Star Wars. Having one group responsible for creating all intelligent life in the galaxy just serves to shrink the setting down, reducing its scope and scale, which is the opposite of what a good Star Wars story should do. (Honestly it's more Star Trek, if anything.)
Much of what makes Star Wars work is that the world-building hints about so much more than what can be reasonably detailed. For example the cantina scene in the original film, filled with all sorts of unique and weird aliens. That helps sell the idea that there's this huge universe that extends outside the frame we are watching.
KOTOR2 gets this right, its plot suggesting there's an ancient, mysterious empire located outside of known space.

Difficulty Class is basically the value a roll has to meet to overcome an effect from whatever effect is being applied to a target. So the higher the DC of a force power, the harder it is for the target to resist it. Each Force power has its own DC, and your Wisdom and Charisma bonus also raise the DC. Consular is unique in that the special feats make their powers even harder to resist. Grenades and weapons with special effects also have DCs sometimes, too. Like the Charric rifle has a knockdown effect.

>It's simply whining for the sake of it, there so no ingame consequence for it.
So? Isn't writing for world/character-building enough?

No, because it's a game and not a book.

Fair enough