How do we get politics out of gaming?

How do we get politics out of gaming?

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How do we get politics out of Yas Forums?

You don't

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You'd have to get politics out of the internet and that's not happening sadly.

Marxism is economics though?

Each bullet point is just a continuation of a sentence

who uses bullet points like that?

If it wasn't for hiroshimoot and the normalfag mods we could self moderate but that shit isn't happening so here we fucking are

>we could self moderate
You trust the retards making threads like this to self-moderate? There are more of them than there are people who actually want to talk about vidya they like.

Its not politics that's the problem but that people nowadays do not know how to write good or engaging politics without it being preachy, underwritten, or they're just plain not the capable people to handle that subject.

Sure, but the incompetence of some writers shouldn't bar the rest of the industry from trying.

Kill this age bracket.

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idk, but every year i have less games to look forward to because of politics

>how do we get politics out of gaming?
you don't, you can't, and you shouldn't want to.
games have been political for the vast majority of their existence, and if you think video games are a genuinely mature artform, you're going to have to deal, occasionally, with themes, political perspectives, etc. you disagree with, and you're going to have to deal with social and political commentary on games that may sometimes question the moral or aesthetic worth of your toys.

if your concern is "how do we get pseudo-neoliberal progressive identity politics out of games?" (which i assume it is, because you retards think the only things that count as politics are issues like gay or black or female representation or some shit), the answer also is "you don't"

it sucks, it's shitty, lazy criticism and politics, but as long as there's a general neoliberal political-economic consensus that fundamentally precludes the robust discussion of class issues -- that is, as long as the primary political battle ground are these fucking moronic culture war battles about media representation -- retarded libs (and reactionaries, too) will read everything through the lens of "does this thing represent X group i affiliate with?"

Get it out of video games when it's not relevant to the story, retard. Otherwise discussing video games will imply discussing politics cause leftist scum devs want to shove their opinions down your throat so you can't even escape their retardism even when playing a video game.

>gamedev is a self proclaimed marxist
I will now pirate your game.

>exploring
>games getting rewritten so it doesn't offend trannies in the west
>can't explore criticism of these "ideologies" at all
who are you trying to fool?

>image literally showing that it's deep rooted into video games now
>how do we get it out of a video game board
Dunno, maybe if the devs would stop shoving it into games people here wouldn't talk about it? This thread doesn't seem to be talking about general politics, but rather how they affect video games after all.

95 here
I'm for it

You're too unhinged to see the bigger picture.

>an entire genre is routinely funded in part by the US military
not politics
>some guy who develops fucking grand historical strategy games suggests that historical materialism might add something to historical strategy games
too much politics

>censorship is bigger picture
ignorance is strength

Marxism is not just economics, it purports to be a scientific analysis of history with Historical Materialism and all that

You can't, there's a level of politics in everything.

However, it's not always at a level where it's distracting you with real-world symbolism that you can't focus on being immersed in the game. You could read Super Mario Bros as being an allegory for racism and a criticism of establishments of monarchy but you'd be reading so hard into it that you'd end up seeing things that aren't there or the creator never intended.

fpbp
ban all Yas Forums posters for one

>Game Tranny Conference
There's your problem

Ban all Yas Forumstards and ResetEra faggots, but then you'd still have the problem of devs making videogames inherently political so you can't bother banning politics in that area unless you outright don't want to allow anyone to talk about story anymore. The first part would still help though and its already technically a rule, it just doesn't help that jannies are apathetic and false flagging / bait autism has reached the point where its impossible to tell whose being genuine.

For what its worth the current policy is better than what most sites have which is just "be inconsistent and ban everyone" ie: ResetEra and Reddit

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you fucking retards have no idea what you're talking about, you just see the word marxism and think "blue haired college teens ruining my video games."
if you actually watch the video, the guy's talking specifically about a grand historical strategy game he developed centered around the victorian period, a game that focuses on, in his words "industrialization, nationalism, and imperialism."
he notes further that marx's "mechanistic approach to history" translates well into game mechanics (perhaps in part because things like industrialization, nationalism, and imperialism feature heavily in marxist thought). immediately following this, he explicitly says he isn't endorsing marx, only that a marxist approach to history (dialectical materialism) might be able to add something to grand historical strategy games, and he's fucking right.

>Work your ass off
>Never see any of the money
>Starve
Marxism seems like a pointless change for video game developers. They already live what it offers.

There is like one video game thread on Yas Forums every 10 days or so. You sure it's not your own group of people that constantly talk about it? Why are you so eager to shift the blame instead of blaming outsiders on it? You could easily seperate all people that post on Yas Forums and you would still have threads like this, because it is Yas Forums that needs to be fixed.

Hence it is evident that the state is a creation of nature, and that man is by nature a political animal. And he who by nature and not by mere accident is without a state, is either above humanity, or below it; he is the ‘Tribeless, lawless, hearthless one,’ whom Homera denounces—the outcast who is a lover of war; he may be compared to a bird which flies alone.

>describe something going on in a capitalist system
>"that's what marxism is"
what did he mean by this?

>Before socialism there must be capitalism.
>Deterministic approach to history
lmao at only reading the manifesto

>work your ass off and never see any of the money
That's the current system user

>the people actually doing the work don't see the profits of their labour
damn man, you're so close

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this goes out the window when the game still gets censored

t. Marxist

Do these idiots even know how to make a PowerPoint?
It should be
>Ingredients
g Apples
1:2 Jam Sugar
>>A tiny amount of water to prevent burning
/2 Teaspoon Cinnamon
>Cooking Instructions
>>...
and not
>Peel them apples!
>>Cause you don’t want any of them Pesticides!
>>Also make sure to have all the other stuff ready and available
>>You will thank me later!

If they use PowerPoint as a presentational tool, sure, go ahead, but don’t format it like a slide with Headers, sub points and so on when all its supposed to do is repeat everything you say in a Gen Z way.

Fuck this garbage gets me mad, shows the guy holding the presentation has no idea on how to hold one, so why should I value his opinion? Like if he is flawed in that aspect, maybe the stuff he tries to be an expert in is also flawed!

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what the fuck are you even talking about? the game is already made.

Rockstar said it all. You cant even make satire anymore because far too many people take what is clearly intended to be a joke or even a critique made in jest about something political way too seriously, to the point where merely mentioning something political is grounds for getting branded a political game and not a game that had a political joke or reference.

The irony in oldfags wanting this would is that they would probably get bored of Yas Forums pretty quickly and go shit up some other site since this place would no longer have any decent traffic.

This

I cant have a legitimately good relationship with a male character in Mass Effect without him wanting to fuck me in the ass. And a lot of the games that give you the option to go renegade wont let you do it without the game harping about its own ethics. At the end theres no moral grey areas, just the game designers and whats evil in their opinion.

It isn't oldfags who care
Those who did left long ago

No, no we would not. We will be perfectly content without a bunch of obnoxious wojak and pepe memes. With less people, more actually funny inside jokes can be spread and enjoyed.

Sure. That's why Rage 2 had two caricatures of Trump.

Lets be completely honest, politics isnt a problem unless its obnoxious leftist politics. Its the only ideology thats inherently anti Yas Forums and insinuates you are all virgin incels if you dont bend the knee and wishes to censor your video games.

So.... the split from SA?

Would require getting politics out of the internet.
Which is impossible as its now the best medium for rich people to push their political bullshit down our throats.

yes.
but explain why a marxist historical approach shouldn't be in a historical strategy game. the dev isn't proselytizing (i.e. you can play a communist nation, sure, but you can also play as a lib or a fascist or a libertarian because it's a fucking grand strategy game set in the victorian era), he's just saying that a materialist analysis lends itself to these sorts of games (i.e. "X imperial power acquires Y nation's resources and develops along Z path" or "A nation develops B textile and rapidly industrializes as a result"). this sort of vulgar economism obviously lends itself to this kind of game.
also the dev himself doesn't appear to be a marxist (he has an incredibly rudimentary understanding of historical materialism), he just seems to be a hobby historian who, like anyone else with some interest in history, has come across marx's ideas.

It will fix itself after youtube starts banning more alt right channels and trump loses the next election. I'd say a year or two tops and we're finally free from this bullshit.

That's not how you use bullet points.