Blocking while attacking

This is standard wisdom in martial arts. But no game ever does it. In games, attacking = vulnerable. Is it possible to make a game where you can block and attack at the same time or would it be too overpowered (or complicated)?

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Lots of games let you turtle.

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yeah but turtling doesn't allow you to attack though, you still have to decide between attacking or turtling and you become vulnerable when launching an attack giving the opponent an opening to hit you

I'm talking about moves that are realistically similar to martial arts like in the OP image, where you block and attack simultaneously

It's possible and some games do it but most games are too lazy to have a good hit detection system which is needed. Fighting games are especially lazy with their hitboxes.

i don't remember if demons souls or ds 1 had it but i know for sure the later games let you use spears while holding block

In dragons dogma one of the fighters skills is a series of jabs with the shield up allowing you to attack and block at the same time

Every time you attack you are opening up somewhere. Sure you can protect yourself to the best of your ability with proper technique, but you aren't invulnerable.

all souls games let you do that

3D fighters generally have this feature incorporated as sabaki.
Its not a fair technic in 2D fighters because they're generally too fast. You can just throw them out whenever and usually win for no good reason.

yeah that makes sense, but is it overpowered? how do enemies even attempt to get to you when you're doing that?

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i figured but i didn't wanna say for certain since i hadn't played either of them in like 6 years

Thrusting swords work like that too.

You can do that in Def Jam Icon for the Xbox 360.

Zelda Links Awakening, if Im not mistaken. It could me another game and Im just mixing then on my head, but I remember that as long as the shield is facing the direction of the attack you will block it

Some attacks ignore blocking.

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Because realistic fighting games are a snorefest.

it immobolizes you, uses a lot of stamina (more than a regular attack), and doesn't do a lot of damage. basically if whiff you may be fucked

In ds it's very stamina heavy doing a single attack like that, in ds3 pvp you can run around the attack and back stab.

You recover stamina slower when blocking and if they hit your shield you take stamina damage. If you dont manage your stamina and they hit your shield while you attack you drain a lot of stamina really quickly. And also while stabbing and blocking at the same time you are stationary for a pretty long time, which means that if its dodged they can get in and do their own attacks on you as a punish for you missing your attack

A Link to the Past works that way but not while attacking. Links Awakening makes you block manually.

seems to me that it would be basically spamming to do the most damage quicker

how would you balance it?

Off the top of my head Dark Souls does it with shields + rapiers/spears
PSO2 also has a lot of parry-frames on different attack start-ups, and in one instance, even allow you to parry while continuing the attack animation, at any time.

I guess the "realistic" answer is that there is always some opening on the body you can hit, for example in OP's pic his head is well protected but there is a big opening for a body or liver shot under his left arm

I think it would get complicated with a lot of directional attacks and blocks - might require too many different inputs and have uncomfortable controls (it's hard to simulate every body movement with a mouse and keyboard or controller)

As pointed out, the zelda series allows it regularly.
And in more than just Link's Awakening. It's in Zelda 1, 2, aLttP, the Oracle Games. You can even do it in OoT and MM with the crouch stab,

Another example would be Monster Hunter, where the Lance move set is (was? haven't played World) based around being defensive while offensive.

For honor does this in a variety of ways

>Have a boxing kink
>Thinking of taking boxing classes to learn more how boxing work

Am I stupid Yas Forums?

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>A Link to the Past works that way but not while attacking.

You can block while attacking in aLttP, just not using your shield.
Holding your sword out in from of you will block melee attacks and is an active hit box at the same time. The downside is only that your facing is locked.

monster hunter

>But no game ever does it

Some games do. It's called riot shield.

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Tales of Maj'Eyal

Super Armor

Why is that stupid? You get out, learn perhaps the most useful martial art and probably get in shape too. There is no downside.

boxing and mma games do

it sounds like most games try to balance the ability to block + attack simultaneously by making it cost a lot of stamina

This. Although its not exactly blocking while attacking, it's pretty much just that.

There's also some attacks in tekken that have a parry window, so if you try to attack during that window before the move comes out you get counterhit.

games with riposte / chamber

Dark Souls, Dragon's Dogma, and Monster Hunter all allow it in some capacity.

That may and dawn? Hot, if so

Tons of games feature "super/hyper armor" that resists or cancels stagger and sometimes damage during attacks, or straight up counterattacks where you receive an attack, nullify it, and then deliver an attack that itself cannot be defended or countered.

>sheltered assault

Fun fact: you can use this even without a sword equipped. Truly a dickpunch extravaganza.

Grabs, special attacks that break or bypass guard, walking around and hitting from behind the guard.

lmao who needs a shield when you need 50 bullets to kill somebody

>walking around and hitting from behind the guard

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Because My motivation is more along the lines of "I want to see a real pair of boxing gloves up close" and "I want to know how a proper guard stance work" than "I want to get in shape"

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Most people can't kick.

Wrong picture to use, OP. The guy's covered from the left, but his dangling right fist is horrible form. Enjoy getting KO'd with a swinging left fist

Nah, it's a good way to meet people.

Enjoy early onset dementia. Even MMA guys suffer less from that shit, because know how to hit other areas of the body

If you duck the punch, you can still set up your own liver punch.

It's not the guy's left that's the problem. see
Your right fist should be at least eye level, closer to the skull

Boxed for 3 years, and competed. Absolutely worth it, join a good gym and get sparring. Make sure the gym you're at isn't full of guys who have something to prove and you'll have a great time.

Quality of gym you can honest to god tell by ethnicity. Lots of hispanic/black people it's probably a good but a little rough, you probably want a good mix of soft looking white people with hispanic/black people so you can work your way around.

Even the person in that picture is vulnerable at the moment of attack. The jab may be the safest punch, but it's still open to be countered if timed correctly.

And then you equip the caestus and swing your arms around while leaning your exposed head forward, just asking to have your jaw broken.

I did a boxing class from mid January to end of Feb. Was hella fun. Got more fit, started to see some real muscle definition and learned some basics of fistfighting.

i assume he's just throwing out a plain jab

Pretty much all counter moves are this

It looks like the picture was taken in the midst of a combination being thrown

UFC games, they allow you to get away with stuff like blocking while attacking and dodging while attacking because attacks are tied to a stamina meter and lower stamina makes you easier to knock out

Came here to post this

Tekken has moves that duck high attacks and dodge low attacks, stances that automatically parry fist attacks or low attacks, etc.

UFC3 has pretty awesome striking. I was impressed.

Riot shields don't stop bullets.

>have a futa on futa fetish
>a good chunk of it on pixiv is boxing and other fighting-related things
Nice. Also no, you're engaging in something you have an interest in, unless you're going full retard and plan on making boxing a career or something it should be fine.