>Game requieres you to learn over 3000 characters because it has never been translated
Game requieres you to learn over 3000 characters because it has never been translated
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>uses watashi and ends his posts with desu
You will never be a woman.
くそ スレッド (笑)
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
>thinks watashi is feminine
>thinks desu is feminine
not gonna make it
>Game has to be relocalized since the original translation was so bad
>The relocalization takes the better part of a decade to finish
>くそ スレッド (笑)
name 48012234 games that do this.
>thinks watashi is feminine
t. probably devoices the 'u' in a professional setting
Ar Tonelico 2 was relocalized.
>With Ar Tonelico 2, things got worse. Painfully worse. Even if you could forgive the numerous typographical errors, missing words, and shaky sentences littering the dialogue, the mistranslation of important game terms, and the inconsistently-adapted names, the localization introduced or exposed game-crashing bugs in the game. Furthermore, in order to move more copies of the game based on sex appeal, NISA marketed the game via a crude and clunky ad campaign.
>They boasted to media sources that the dialogue was even racier than in the original – when, in fact, AT2 was intended to be a more serious and thoughtful game, with less emphasis on cheap hooks and a greater focus on the plot, than AT1. Finally, in order to fit English voice acting onto the disc, they cut approximately half of the Japanese voice-acted scenes, leaving many important plot points lacking appropriate impact. The result was a game vulgar, ugly, and offensive in parts, but with enough of its soul left intact to appeal while still being a shadow of the original.
>But the fandom knew AT2 was a game worth saving, and upon seeing what NISA had done to the game, assembled a crack team of coders, hackers, translators, and fixer-uppers with celerity. Together, they form feet and legs, form arms and torso, and they may or may not have a clue who’s the head, but they all have something in common: burning spirit, a love for Ar Tonelico 2, and a desire to see it restored to its former glory.
Relocalization project started in February 2009 and finished January 2017.
Both of you have terrible reading comprehension. ESL?
cope
that's an unofficial fan project, so i wouldn't count it. we can for the sake of it, name 48012233 more games that do this
no, you're just fucking retarded and can't close your gape for two seconds and need to bring up "B-B-B-BUT WHAT ABOUT TRANNIES" in the first fucking post of a thread that has nothing to do with them.
If I remember correctly, men only use watashi in more formal situations. I rarely see men use it otherwise.
>498296857
thanks for the (You), faggot
"more formal situations" is 99% of situations. you would only refer to yourself with ore when you're hanging with friends. i've seen jsls speak that casually around native speakers and the native speaker literally gets up and walks away shaking their head.
>you finally learn all 3000 characters and 10000 words in the Japanese language
>writer invents new words
You speak with strangers more than friends?
There aren't even that many games in existence!
>Learn a language to play videogames
>The Ministry of Education releases 196 new kanji while removing 5 old ones. Then gives 28 of the old kanji new readings.
The part that screws me over is not the number of kanji, but the different readings most will contain. Fucking hell, I really hate the concept of on'yomi and kun'yomi. Why can't they just be different words altogether? At least then it wouldn't be as confusing. And you may as well double the kanji count by that factor alone.
I suggest reading my first post again to save yourselves from further embarrassment.
I've just given up on learning individual readings and just learn the pronunciation on a word by word basis.
So? Just learn it. I did it, moved to Japan and live happily.
Well, maybe not so much right now, who knows what will happen with the coronavirus.
This isn't confusing once you learn it.
Because it's essentially the same thing like Greek/Latin roots in western languages. Something like Television is just tele(far) + vision(to see).
The fact that you have a word "to see" and then the noun is "vision" where it doesn't sound similar is pretty much the thing that kun'yomi vs on'yomi have as well, since kun'yomi are native but on'yomi are not. Another similarity is that the Greek/Latin roots have different pronunciations in their original language when you compare them to English.
>thinking you actually need to know 3000+
>not knowing that shit's usually written with the 1200~1500ish most common ones
>thinking they're random squiggles; not knowing that they all make sense and have reason/order to them
>not knowing the average dumbass Japanese coomer only knows like 500~900 or so by the time they finish highschool anyway.
>not knowing that you'll generally know 300~500 kanji just by living there for a few years and not studying
fucking lmao
Yes, more formal situations meaning literally anything outside of your personal friend group. Anime would have you believe boku and ore are used much, much more than they actually are.
>Not knowing the average dumbass Japanese coomer only knows like 500~900 or so by the time they finish highschool anyway.
Ah yes, the "Japanese people don't even know kanji!" bullshit that makes for great clickbait Youtube videos.
Next you'll be saying Japanese natives can't even finish the JLPT1.
DJT EOPs stuck at N2 need to cope somehow.
True enough, still doesn't stop the fact that women don't change their pronoun. I'm sure it'd seem weird to refer to yourself as watashi as a man with your friends, and I'd hope you'd talk to people who actually will have your back at least on a regular bases.
>Assuming all that shit whitout knowing that I know 2000k+ kanji
>Thinking that anything less than 3500 can be considered good enough to know the language
>Not knowing that in order to actually know japanese you need the 2200 jouyou + 800 jinmeiyou + at least 500 hyougai
>The Ministry of Education releases 196 new kanji while removing 5 old ones. Then gives 28 of the old kanji new readings.
Does this actually happen?
There are actually 2 pronouns you're missing that help complete the picture. The first is watakushi, which is the utmost formal way of referring to yourself for both sexes, and atashi, which is a feminine casual pronoun that carries a very young and cute connotation.
I live for the challenge to learn 3K characters for untranslated goods.
It happened while I was learning Japanese in 2010. Was absolutely horrifying since back then learning Japanese was basically just Heisig and Genki with occasional obscure books thrown in. Resources, particularly on the new kanji, in English were rarer.
Anki wasn't popular (I'm not sure it even really existed). Tae Kim's guides also didn't exist. Everyone has it so much easier now but that's just me doing boomer talk.
First post /djt/ post. Go back to your crab basket.
>moonlets think that kanji are the hard part of learning moon
Literally never going to make it.
If a guy posts with watashi, he's a faggot or a tryhard.
>not knowing that shit's usually written with the 1200~1500ish most common ones
>he actually believes this
Enjoy getting filtered by gachashit.
>Not knowing that in order to actually know japanese you need the 2200 jouyou + 800 jinmeiyou + at least 500 hyougai
To actually have enough vocabulary to fluently read nukige you need to at least be able to read all the kanji listed as requirements for the kanken level 1. That's around 6355, which is also the bare minimum used in newspapers and media.
Pretty much knew those ones too. Learned silly ones like wagahai also, and have seen jibun used as a first person pronoun in some cases (in fiction)
>"more formal situations" is 99% of situations. you would only refer to yourself with ore when you're hanging with friends. i've seen jsls speak that casually around native speakers and the native speaker literally gets up and walks away shaking their head.
You're a retard and you don't live in Japan. Guys use boku in "formal" situations and ore in any situation where they're not talking to a superior, or a bank clerk or something. You're probably some SEAmonkey who comes here twice a year for comiket and pretends you know the language.
Kanji is hard. What do you think is harder? Pitch accent?
this is a good underwater ray romano post
>What do you think is harder?
Literally every other aspect of the language. Rote memorization is not hard.
It's not that hard.
>Don't use "omae", it's a very rude way of addressing someone.
>literally EVERY piece of Japanese media these days uses omae
?????????????
Literally learning the difference between は and が and how to properly use either is way harder than learning kanji.
Pitch accent is a meme. You'll always sound like a gaijin.
The average Japanese women know about 300 kanjis
Japan got rude
>You'll always sound like a gaijin.
It's not about sounding like a gaijin, it's about pronouncing the words correctly so people can understand you, right?
>Pitch accent is a meme. You'll always sound like a gaijin.
Nah, it's possible to get gud enough that your friends will yell at you for fucking up pitch because they expect you to be able to pronounce words properly. Then they ask you to teach them English intonation and you want to kill yourself when they say that bass (the fish) and bus sound the same.
The first words in my Anki deck are from 2009 and I learned about anki from Yas Forums threads. By that time it was widely known. There were also alternative flash card apps that existed for decades, I remember having some fanboyish discussions about whether Anki is better than the good old classic Mnemosyne, which popularized the spaced repetition algorithm.
Omae is just an informal term just as much as Anta and Kimi. In the longrun, it does not matter.
>he doesn't refer to himself exclusively with oresama
>fumbling around speaking to the japanese exchange students saying things like 大好き then nothing else while I think of what to say next
I am still embarrassed
>being a dumb weeb
Disgusting.
Nah im taken a back at how much shit I have to memorize. 10/10 times if I worked in japan id be asking "sono nan kanji desuka," every waking second.
GOD TIER
小生
拙者
某
自分
我が輩
GOOD TIER
俺
我
あたし
OKAY TIER
私
儂
あたい
余
己
FAG TIER
僕
朕
麻呂
LITERALLY PEASANT TIER
うち
TRYING TOO HARD TO BE CUTE TIER
wagahai is really old, and jibun is a bit different from the others in that it isn't always a pronoun and can be used in other ways
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>Guys use boku in "formal" situations and ore in any situation where they're not talking to a superior, or a bank clerk or something.
>俺(おれ)完全にプライベートな一人称です。親しい仲間や兄弟、親族等に対してのみ使う一人称ですね。
Boku in formal situations would only be acceptable as long as you're not talking to your superiors.
>拙者
The whole 拙者でござる otaku speak is one of the most 痛い things that exists in this country, and I immediately avoid people if they speak like that.
People will understand you regardless so long you have proper intonation.
Either way the only way to effectively learn pitch accent is to actually be around Japanese people for long enough for it to stick naturally. You can't effectively study it, and even if you do it's a pretty serious waste of time you could invest, instead, in broadening your vocabulary even further.
Noone fucking speaks like that in real life, EOP.
>shousei
what are you fucking God? Lmao
What's this dumb ugly bitch from? Also you need to learn nothing, just use google translate and you're all good.
>kanji are pretty straightforward
>made up of radicals that represent different ideas to combine to make a new word
>makes sense
>as soon as you get to any complicated topic, you get shit like 藜 and 撃
>just fucking memorize it LOOOOL
that's when I got filtered, and I'm not ashamed to admit it
>Some wise otaku uses onyomi
>Switch to traditional chinese
>I am now learning chinese
200 iq plays
>he didn't collect disingenuous 日本語上手's
ngmi
>TRYING TOO HARD TO BE CUTE TIER
>
hey, screw you!
>No I don't live in Japan and use the language regularly, but trust me I'm an internet expert
Guys use ore when talking in informal situations. Whoever wrote that stuff you're linking is a dumb boomer. Go fishing and talk to some other guys there. They'll use ore. Go to comiket or comitia or a concert or something and talk to people there. They'll use ore unless they're staff. Go to the gym and ask someone for a spot, and unless they're a young DYEL they will use ore.
I've been to college in Japan. You haven't, dekinai-kun.
I got filtered when I realized salarymen only know some college level kanji.
>he hasn't upgraded to 日本は長いですか
Poor guy.
You're laughing but fake chinese caught on as an internet fad a few years back, using simplified Japanese to mimic chinese writing.
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Nippleshit101;
To impress people, practice phonetics.
To attempt insanity, pefrect your writing knowledge.
post funny kanji
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i just need to learn more kanji and i guess words.
fuck
>I've been to college in Japan. You haven't, dekinai-kun.
Where do you think I am now? And not a shitty exchange student like you, you N2 shitstain.
>Where do you think I am now?
At some shit ranked school as an undergrad student?
>And not a shitty exchange student like you
Wrong again. In fact, I already have a masters degree and am working on a PhD.
>you N2 shitstain.
And wrong again. JLPT shitposting is the go-to for the third world subhumans from /jp/. Try to do better than that.
Your PhD in translation impressed noone though, tard.
Still funny the concepts of the language is still there, its just the grammar and syntax.
I always forget that one exists until I see it.
>Your PhD in translation
STEM. Keep crying, dumbass.
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>マイナビウーマンが社会人男性396人を対象に、「プライベートで使う一人称」についておこなったアンケートによると、一番多かったのは「オレ」(59%)、次いで「僕」(22%)、「私」(6%)、「自分」(6%)という順でした。
Not even 2/3rds use ore in PRIVATE situations
卍
Cool. Now post the age range of respondents.
>he doesn't take 生意気 10 year olds to the beach and mess them up
What are you doing, man?
>"manji" is a swastika
wait what the fuck?
How do you expect to find a job without a nice N1 though? I know you're talking shit about it cause you can't pass it. But you really should try. Otherwise you'll end up in some shitty foreign company surrounded by other fat Americans like youself. Isn't that what you're escaping to begin with?