Is Madeline trans?

Is Madeline trans?

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Her dark side isn't a man, so no.

>the game wasn't about abortion after all
>it was about mass genocide
Damn...

yes

yeah, it's a pretty redpilled game
he has mental illness that causes him to see a dark side of himself and him always running away from his dysphoria instead of confronting them head on and getting psychiatric help

I need another trans gf so bad

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>oneangryincel

Not until after launch. They saw the potential for marketing it to resetera and Twitter. Sad, really.

which game? so i can blacklist it immediately.

is this a fake parody account because this reads like satire

>states one truth about the flags
>people gets angry at him
He's right though, the flags are here. Doesn't matter if you have to zoom or not, the flags are still here and that's just a fact.

>but I have to
honestly pretty sad

What happen, did the last one kill xirself?

Based angry gamer triggering trannoids

Celeste. I got it free on Epic Games Store™ last year, but thankfully found out about this crap before installing it. But now it forever tarnishes my EGS™ account.

Maybe.

>One of my favorite video games of the last couple of years, as well as probably the most critically acclaimed indie game released in 2018, was a tough platformer called Celeste. The game tells the story of Madeline, a young woman with anxiety and depression, climbing a difficult and dangerous mountain. The game was very challenging to complete, with precise jumps required to progress, but it also encouraged repeated attempts, not giving up, and going easier on yourself when needed. Celeste did a great job of using its gameplay to draw parallels to Madeline's emotional journey trying to overcome her anxiety and prove to herself what she was capable of, and tackled its mental health themes rather beautifully.

>While Celeste quickly became one of my all-time favorite video games when it released, what I want to talk in more depth about is a recent free update to the game, which has caused a split in the game's audience, and that I personally wish the creative team would directly address.

>Celeste: Chapter 9: Farewell is an end game set of story-based levels, designed for players who have not only beaten the main game, but also the game's difficult bonus challenge levels. You play as Madeline, chasing after a bird who she is convinced is the spirit of a deceased friend whose death she hasn't yet accepted.

>After completing the story, players are treated to a short epilogue scene, where Madeleine is at home, and we get to see a little of where she lives. Most notably, on her computer desk, by her keyboard, she has both a rainbow flag, as well as a transgender pride flag, signaling to many players that Madeline is both gay and transgender.

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no I dumped her because she was schizo and probably would have progressed to murdering me

>Now, as a transgender woman myself, I was absolutely delighted to see this. Madeline is the protagonist of one of my favorite ever games, a game that has been huge popularity for its difficult gameplay in pockets of gaming fandom that might not traditionally play a game with a trans protagonist. She's competent, she can do amazing things, and she has the emotional strength to be introspective and work through her mental health conditions. She's a great character, and in a world with so few playable trans protagonists I was so ready to embrace her with open arms.

>However, I quickly realized, the way Madeline's trans reveal was handled was going to cause debate and discussion. Put simply, there's a lot of people out there who don't like transgender people existing, and they will find any excuse to deny the existence of a trans character.

>Moderators on the Celeste Wiki quickly took a firm stance against Madeline being a trans character. Their stance was that she might just have those flags to be an ally to gay and trans people. She never says she's trans with words, and the creator has remained radio silent on her trans status when asked about it, so many refuse to accept it as canon.

>After that, people like me who thought she was trans looked for other evidence, pointing out a picture of her younger self where she appears less traditionally feminine, as well as a medication bottle which could be for hormone replacement therapy pills, but could just as easily be for anxiety medication.

>gay and transgender

So straight?

>In the weeks since, general consensus has become that Madeline is probably meant to be a trans character, as you don't just put a trans flag next to a character's computer without that being a conscious choice. But, any time I or other trans people try to excitedly talk about what that fact means for us, we get swarmed with people telling us we are wrong, and to stop trying to force characters into being trans. It really makes it hard to get excited about such a great character having something in common with us.

>Multiple people, myself included, have reached out to the development team of the game asking for a firm answer about Madeline's potential trans status. Prior to publication of this piece, I contacted the game's creator Matt Thorson but received no response. That lack of response and the development team's apparent decision to maintain silence is a disappointment.

>Including an LGBT character in your narrative whose LGBT status is casually dropped in is great; it makes that aspect of who they are not a huge deal. But as a creator, if you don't confirm what you were implying, be it inside or outside that piece of media, you will basically just give ammo for a bunch of your players to pretend the representation doesn't exist, and make it harder for those who that representation matters most to.

>Now, to be clear, I'm not opposed to queer creators including ambiguous queer characters in their narratives. I think there is certainly room for characters who are never explicitly stated as trans, where it's up to the player to make their own judgement calls based on given evidence in the narrative, and ambiguous queer narratives can be handled well. However, in my personal opinion, any creator that's aiming to pull off ambiguous representation in fiction ideally needs to layer hints and clues about their character's identity throughout the narrative, so that reading the character as queer adds something new to readings of the plot. Celeste never at any point during its narrative so much as hints at Madeline being a trans character, and dropping a flag at the end of the game with no other context gives nothing for players to look back to and view as evidence with hindsight. That may well be a factor in why this particular game's silence feels like such a disservice to that reading character.

>I can't say any creator's motives for certain, but often other developers do things like this as a way to walk the line between throwing a bone to those who want representation, without angering bigots who might play their game. It's the same reason characters like Tracer in Overwatch are confirmed gay in comic books rather than flashy cinematics. The more plausibly deniable the canon of the reveal, the easier it is to add an LGBT character to your narrative without angering those who would oppose it.

>With that said, no matter the reason, the creator's silence still has the same end result, a character whose trans status is loosely hinted at the last moment, and is easily deniable.

So THIS is what the alt right pissbabies were throwing a hissy fit about? That small cluster of pixels?
Pathetic.

>Making a character's trans status ambiguous means your trans fans can't fully get excited about representation, and empowers those who would rather not face the fact they might have played as a trans person in a game they like. It puts all the power in the hands of those seeking to deny our existence, and is not proper representation. Without evidence throughout the bulk of the main game, it's hard to see this as a good example of a character intended to be read as Trans.

>I want to see the creative team say one way or the other, so I can either get excited that Madeleine is canonically trans, or stop getting excited about that fact if it wasn't the intended reading. I'm convinced it's the case, not only because of the in-game signs, but also the fact the game's development team includes both a non-binary person and a trans person. Still, author silence always falls in favor of the status quo.

TL;DR: trannies mad

The game is 100% about depression and self discovery, i have no idea who said that shit about abortion

>we want to shove our political ideology everywhere we possibly can to the point of not having it shoved into your work makes you an enemy of us
>also it's not political and noticing this at all is being over-dramatic! there's nothing political about saying trans-rights! trans-rights are human rights I'm allowed to spam it as much as I want because it's not political because I say so! It's only political to disagree!

This shit is literally killing our society, every medium of entertainment is becoming crap because of these people. I don't care about their ideology beyond the fact it's an ideology that attracts stupid fucking faggots meaning stupid fucking faggots are attracted to everything good and making it shit.

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>that flag

I literally can't take my eyes off it. I am going to write an article about it on my blog.

trans-'interesting protag'

No, a transbian

I hear he's black and severely autistic. Is that true?

if you're this insecure about what games are on your account, then owning celeste is only the second red flag that you're a faggot

Whoa... I guess we really do live in a society.....

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Crazy right?

Seriously watch out for red flags if you try again. I've only met ones that are crazy in some way.

Does it matter? No impact on the gameplay whatsoever

nope, OAG is real and every SJW strawman of gamers can be traced right back to him.

>Notice a stage 1 cancer tumor
Umm yeah we should probably do something about i-
>"Oh my gawd dude why do you care so much it's literally like only 1 cm in diameter you won't even see it without a magnifying glass stop being so OBSESSED"

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>be born with erectile dysfunction
>only half of my dick ever gets erect. not half chub evenly, like literally the bottom half hard, top flaccid.
>see a urologist when I start having sex
>tell me my only option is a penile implant
>nope.wad
>8 years later go back, tried everything, say fuck it and ask for an implant
>surgery comes around
>literally day of the operation, the doctor shows me some of what he's gonna do
>start sweating as it becomes apparent that I know more about anatomy (anatomy grad here) than the surgeon
>trust him anyways
>come out of surgery
>ENTIRE DICK NOW FLACCID FOREVER
I was considering myself a trans girl a while ago, but that confirmed it. apparently my penis wasnt fully developed and my urethra has pubic hair growing on the inside of it. so, yeah. genitals.

Remember when he was eternally BTFO'd by a gay cartoon rat?

ATTENTION:
FUCK: Trannies, Jannies, and Niggers.

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There's plenty to play without this stuff in it, just play that and let these people make what they want.

I was gonna say something to that effect, but I feel you summed it up well enough.

i'm a schizo please don't make fun of us

No I don't.
this is the most important spoonfeeding I need.

Okay.
Let me make a great game and put "fuck faggots" in some small corner and I'm sure it'll go over just fine. Bitching about it is bitching about literally nothing, it isn't political.

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are you trans

Yes she's trans.
Videogames, whether you like it or not, are a core transgender hobby, with some of the most iconic videogame characters being trans.
Videogames aren't for you if you're a transphobe.

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politicel plz go

No

>literally has futa in her name
lol

>Spent years defending games against SJW censorship and how anime won't turn people into pedos
>Childrens show "Arthur" had Mr.Ratburn get gay marry
>He wrote article bitching about it grooming kids for gay pedos
>Gay marry episode gets censored in Alabama
>He writes article laughing at gays getting what's coming to them
>Audiences point out how hypocritical that makes him sound
>He mass blocks those "centrists"
>Episode airs in Alabama anyway after they reverse their decision
>He loses a good chunk of his readers over it, readers he "didn't want anyway".

>she

Yas Forums has always been a pro trans board user. There's nothing political about being trans.

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it is when you make it political
maybe stop being a politicel

>lgbt flag
>asexual pride flag
Um

do you support the rights of people who don't want to be human?
i don't want to be an animal or something, but being a cool powerful demon would be neat

>reddit
dilate

Sayo is not real and is a red herring from ryukishi07, prove me wrong

>I dumped her because she was schizo
if schizo is a dealbreaker you're not going to find a trans gf you won't dump

You autistic faggots are just the latest furry expansion pack.

kill yourself tranny fag I care about people that kill themselves don't you want these people to fix they're mental problems you fucking tranny nigger kill yourself dilate Yas Forums videogame board

That sucks, man. Welcome to the femanon life.

oh my god the Ratburn thing.
I COMPLETELY forgot about that shit.

She literally, literally is only still alive in only one fragment of reality as lion and nothing more. All the beatrices we see are dead or dead incestbabies. The witch from the rokkenjima incident is definitely a guest of the island.

Except Yas Forums has always been pro trans? as an oldfag i remember when we used to SUPPORT trans rights before all the chuds invaded in 2016. Videogames have always been pro trans.
Yas Forums has always been pro trans
Trans rights. If you're a transphobe, this board, this website isn't for you. The internet isnt for you and you're unwelcome

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what the fuck are 'trans rights'
you're a person, you get all the rights a person has, sure, but nothing more

Literally the hero Yas Forums needs fuck trans nigger who is with me we need 500 threads a day 1 million replies TRANNY TRANNY DILATE TRANNY TORTANIC this is such a good board let's keep it this way help me my best and only friends

your art is horrible no wonder you shill here instead of making money on patreon

Chuds are seething in full force today!
Trans rights

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dilate

So which rights are trans lacking again?

fucking based Yas Forums user fuck videogames I love Dark Souls but fuck these tranny niggers

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I bet I could levitate without making a fucked up face like that. He didn't get the rope soon enough.

i literally love trannies but your art is horrible

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Smells like incel seethe in here

>rights
They're left you fucking nigger don't ever associate those tranny fags with the right ever again left not right you fucking faggot dilate

dilate

Hat kid is LITERALLY trans.
Celeste is LITERALLY trans
the best games of the 2010s have trans protagonists.

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baby nigger cum

nigga it's a single image just look away from the screen hahahahha

This but unironically.

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>sjws love censorship
>they get censored and butthurt about it
>make fun of them for getting a taste of their own medicine
>somehow that's hypocrisy
Tranny please. You can make fun of sjws while still being against censorship.

thank you.

>GO MAKE YOUR OWN VIDEO GAMES FUCKING SJWS

>NO NOT LIKE THAT!!! STOOOOOP!! MOMMY MAKE THEM STOP!!1 THEY'RE BEING THE CHANGE THEY WANT TO SEE!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!111

This is how i feel reminding everyone that we used to be pro trans

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