Wait, so the "classic mode" isn't a turn based mode, but pretty much an extra easy difficulty option...

It sucks because thanks to this barry fag, you can't even point out what makes the game bad since people will just assume you're him.

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Don't worry, pretty sure there will be a turnbased mode DLC at some point in the future. Just 29.99 dorrah you baka gaijin (prus tip).

>build a game from the ground up with a cool new combat system in mind
>add in a mode to humiliate all the retards who refuse to use it
You should have no desire to play Classic mode, just think of it as Ninja Dog mode

Honestly yeah, because usually those arguments are pretty shit nostalgia driven "soul/soulless" tier
Its almost always people remembering ff7 wrong

If I understand, Barry just thinks FF15 is a masterpiece and that's his main angle.

People saying turn based systems are more engaging aren't Barry, because of he believed that he wouldn't praise FF15.

At any rate, I expect these threads have marketers in them. Speaking OF FF15, there was plenty of marketing hype when it launched in spite of FF13 being what it was, and that hype died almost overnight once the game released. You'll see a lot of threads insisting FF7R is "modern" but the truth is people are being paid to promote it for better or worse.

What the fuck is the point of this shitty game? isn't it supposed to be an action game now? the "action" fucking sucks.
cloud only has the one repetitive combo for each mode. zero combo depth. leaks suggest no combo modifiers.
defense is botched. guard has FUCKING CHIP DAMAGE and is useless. the Roll sucks and has no i-frames.
Clouds new attack animations look unsatisfying and wonky. you can't even do no damage boss fights because the mechanics suck and the partner system is a liability.
what sort of action game is this?

they need to
>remove chip damage from gaurd or add a perfect guard that removes chip damage.
>Fix dodge rolling
>Make issuing commands to partners better so you can choose play a fight as one character and just command NPC partners when needed.
>add some fucking depth to attacks so it's not repetitive shit.

t. i autoattack to infinity and took me 10 minutes to beat scorpion

I never played either, but I'll be here shitposting about how they made Tifa's boobs smaller.

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autistic khfag strikes again

it's getting unanimous praise

>"12 year old trying to use words he hasn't been taught yet" the post
People wanting turn based enjoy turn based and don't get turn based games anymore unlike the shit tons of action games that come out each year. Its amazing that the people clamoring for action combat are the ones that don't understand the simple joy of just liking something and it has to be some retarded argument about muh morals or some other dumb shit... If you aren't playing games to enjoy them then please stop playing games.

wrong I'm a DMC & Ninja Gaiden fag. but that doesn't excuse this game being mechanically trash. seriously the design is bafflingly flimsy.

I've played both, but I plan to bitch about how there needs to be more Tifa /ss/ online.

Hard is supposed to be unlockable for the main game

Guard isn't supposed to be perfect and dodge isn't supposed to have invulnerability frames. This isn't Dark Souls. You're expected to take damage, even if it's reduced. If that somehow still hurts your feelings then you probably shouldn't play the game you autistic fuck.

t. played on the baby mode and assume other people are as retarded as me.

I look forward to our future battles, user. May the best shitposter collect the most (You)s.

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literally impossible to beat it faster unless you're on casual difficulty

>Clouds new attack animations look unsatisfying and wonky
I agree with everything you said except this. Clouds main combo is super satisfying to land

Why did they make the game action based when the controls feel so unresponsive and sluggish?

I don't expect From's level, but it doesn't feel so different than those pseudo-action MMOs.

>isn't it supposed to be an action game now?
It's not, retard.

You'll take your Squeenix in-house shitty actionish combat and you'll like it you boomer/zoomer delete non-applicable.

>You're expected to take damage
there's no such thing as a good action game where stupid shit like this can even be said.
even mediocre action games still have solid design in bosses so you can no damage them. it's literally the test of what makes a solid action game.
dark souls is clunky garbage for normies and the fact that you go to that when someone talks about the most basic combat mechanics tells me you don't know shit about this genre.

It was far better in the E3 demo. go and watch it. it flowed so nicely and didn't have that stupid spin finisher where clouds feet don't even line up with his model sliding along the ground.

What the fuck do you think this is, Dark Souls? They literally turned FF13 into an action system that still resembles 7. Do you think this is supposed to be Devil May Cry or Metal Gear Revengeance? It's a goddamn JRPG with real time combat.

Reminds me of Dragon Age Inquisition then, with it's fake action mode, where you basically just trade hits with enemy pretending it's an actual fight.

It literally is. that's why RPG fags are upset. it's just a bad action game.

how many threads are you gonna do this in

A worthy cause, user. Godspeed.

user, an action rpg is still an action game.

RPG fags are the ones who got what they wanted, it's the retarded actionfags that are mad because Versus XIII didn't turn out KH-like and they though VIIR would.

All I can say about this game is: I'm glad Dragon Quest and mainline SMT still exist.

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Thank fucking god for your replies, since i know i beat scorpion on like 5 minutes with proper knowledge of the game and now i know you were actually shitstains thst spammed square because muh action game

I like action RPGs, but this is so boring, you keep hitting enemies all over again and again for a long time. In this case I would prefere a turn based with more satisfying strategies and battle in general.

t.ranny

Just make it like the "atb" mode for Dissidia, it worked pretty well I think.

You are forgetting this is a JRPG.

>user, an action rpg is still an action game.
And there are dozens of other "action RPGs" that are nothing like KH or Souls but underagefags don't know that.

>RPG fags are the ones who got what they wanted
On what planet is this game anything close to what they wanted.

Because you faggots will absolutely worship old ass turn-based games with 0 depth while ignoring the good indie games that add a lot of shit to turn-based systems just because they're not made by your beloved company.

I genuinely don't understand why anybody would ever want menu combat back
even the most brainless action combat is better than menu combat.

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>Do you think this is supposed to be Devil May Cry or Metal Gear Revengeance?
obviously not because those games have solid design.
>It's a goddamn JRPG with real time combat.
so an action game. an ARPG. those games always turn out garbage. you know why because they fuck up the vital action mechanics and make them incompatible with the RPG ones. the only game to do it right is KH2. solid
combat mechanics, Boss design and damage clamping. you can play that as a pure action game or an RPG cheese fest. it gives the player choices and everything is solid.
If your going to do action mechanics do them right otherwise you may as well just make a shitty turnbased RPG.

It's basically crisis core HD if you didn't like that you probably won't like this.

Is that supposed to mean something in this conversation?

The action features are just a gimmick, it's still stat and strategy based, not skill based.

You won't beat it naked with a rusty sword.

I really wish SE would stop with these mid boss fight cutscene transitions. It's even worse when there is an HP gate that you can't go lower than, so you can essentially waste DPS once you hit it if you aren't aware of when it is.

Do you really want FF7 turned into KH2?

Calling a very easy mode 'classic' is pretty much a confirmation that old FF games were too easy. But hey, don't listen to me. Play one - any - preFF9 game.
>3 enemies and you are solo
>ATB is filling up, pick Attack, kill 1 enemy
>same thing, now you kill 2nd enemy
>finally, 3rd enemy hits you and deals between 5 and 10 damage to a character that has 330 HP

Nope, but having the control quality of a Dark Souls, Sekiro or even Nioh, would be nice.

>The action features are just a gimmick
then don't do them at all. if your going to half ass it.

Yes but better.

Classic Mode aims to imitate the original by being mind-numbingly easy. Honestly, I can't play the original anymore. I have to play New Threat.

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Whats wrong with you? If you want to stare at your characters posing for 20+ seconds while waiting for their turn to attack there's plenty of other options for you.

All the brainlets who can't seem to understand how to stagger is hilarious. This isn't DMC or Bayonetta, dumbasses. It's an action rpg.

I don't want that. I wanted FF7 story but with actual good gameplay.
instead we get this half baked, unholy mongrel shit that does neither Action nor RPG mechanics remotely well. so noones happy.

How exactly does it work on here? I understood it in FFXIII, and I figured it worked much the same way here, but it doesn't.

Apparently "action" inclines that guard must be perfect, dodges must have i-frames, and you need a wealth of combos because why have action to these nutsos

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The gameplay is objectively good, your tastes are just garbage.

DMC bosses have a stagger system that is basically the same. you just can't see the stagger bar.
You've clearly never played.

No boss game where damage is unavoidable is good. non-skill based games are worthless.

>If you like a video game or are excited for a video game then you are a SHILL!!!
>If you don't incessantly post about a game after release then you are a SHILL!!!
Fuck off retard.

It's the same at the core. Keep hitting it to build up the stagger bar, once it pops lay on the fat damage. Now there is an added pressure mechanic making the enemy stop in its tracks and stagger builds up more quickly.

>and I figured it worked much the same way here, but it doesn't.
But it does. Cloud's focus thrust brings up stagger faster, as does Barret casting Thunder. In XIII it was just making sure you got a commando hit in so the stagger bar slowed down then spamming ravager til the bar filled up.

>boss game
this isn't a boss game, you gibbering retard. do you complain that damage is unavoidable in the original game?
>but it's not action
So fucking what, you're just looping the same garbage sentiments over and over without any critical thinking, it's just gotta be what YOU want.

You realize you're hitting a VERY BROAD stroke of game genres right? Again, your tastes are shit.

IT'S AN RPG, RETARD. You're supposed to be taking damage, they just give you options to minimize it. Not to mention the fact that the demo gives you like 20 fucking potions if you suck that much.

If you could move the characters in the original game while wainting the ATB to fill up, it would play exactly like FFVII Remake.

>when the controls feel so unresponsive and sluggish?
Are you retarded?

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Yes there absolutely must be a way for skilled players to avoid damage.
that's the most basic rule of action game design.
and spamming the same repetitive attack is always a clear way to identify a subpar quality action game.

Just call out that both 7R and XV are both shit.

Thank god there's no obnoxious class change bullshit here. You just equip characters for different focuses and strategies, and then swap between the characters as you need.

>press button
>wait 1 second
>finally attacks
Are you?

Well, it's like Tera Online, it's real time, but in the end you'll be just trading hits until it's finished.

>do you complain that damage is unavoidable in the original game?
the original gameplay is outdated garbage. I don't play turn based shit anymore.

>you're supposed to Tank damage and heal all the time.
yeah great gameplay.
so satisfying.