Villain is evil because of his tragic backstory

>villain isn't evil
>he's just hilariously incompetent
>the only reason he lasted so long in his position is because you keep coming along to fix his messes at the right time

>villain is evil because he's been corrupted by an unseen force

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>villain is evil because he wants true heroes to emerge in a world that's mostly morally grey

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What's a good reason for the villain to be evil in your opinion?

And? Why this is wrong?

>The actions of the villain are better than the actions of the protagonist, making it look like the villain is actually the hero and you're the bad guy.

Becouse fuck hot people.

More cats

Sociopathy.

>villain is subjectively evil and has goals which equal, if not rival, the main characters goals

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Society

Sinful nature.

Revenge and trying to protect someone are top tier motives.

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>villains are evil cause they killing humans for the lulz

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Most stories and game go this route because they scare off their paying customers if the character gets a thrill from being evil. (As in, the movie doesn't TELL you said character gets a thrill, they SHOW you the character getting a thrill. The Bad Seed and Clockwork Orange are two interesting/chilling takes on characters who enjoy being evil.)

>villain is evil because you are good

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The internet was a mistake

>What is Dr.Stone

I know a certain demographic of people irl who tend to be evil for the sake of it...

>What is kiwifarms

>yes? That's how it works. Nobody is evil for the sake of it
Are you underage?

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Why is the shittiest top tier. Why would I watch something where you can't root against the villian? This is stupid.

>villain is evil because of his fortunate backstory

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I think when talking about the main villain of a game, being evil for the sake of being evil doesn't cut it, especially if they are just sociopaths. Obviously there doesn't have to be some massive sobstory, but sociopaths/evil for the sake of evil usually work best as side villains.

>Villains who are just evil for the sake of being evil
>shit tier
objectively shit list
you're the reason why videogames and movies are shit now

>Who is Donald Trump?

>everything is a shade of gray!
You only think this because you don't actually know anything about the world

Wow. Not guilty.

>teammate betrays you cause hes a gullible autist

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>villain isn't even evil

We did it reddit! Le bacon whale!

I never thought I would see the day someone proclaims the world is black and white, not gray, after people have been correcting people like you for years.

This is a bullshit mindset pushed by deconstructionists and subversionists to make us ignore/forget the very clearly defined sides of good and evil in the world. It literally leads to societies collapsing and millions dying in wars.

Shit like Game Of Thrones, The Expanse, Legends of The Galactic Heroes (basically any piece of fiction that that tries to """""humanize""""" the villains) aren't popular- we're hardwired to understand the lines of good and evil, and if you're wired correctly, to fight kicking and screaming against the dark. But the subversionists (you know [[[[[[[[[who]]]]]]) want you to feel sympathy for the things that will rip you and your children to shreds, so these things are artificially pushed onto the public, their success faked until it becomes real. It is more powerful than a knife or bullet or bomb could ever be.

Don't ever stop pushing back against the dark.

There are plenty of sheep that believe that too, you aren't unique.

Ibara wasnt sad, he wanted power and he got it.

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It's called counter-culture, they think it makes them smarter just because they recogise a trope and that there are sociopaths or retards out there doing evil shit for no reason.

>what are psicophats
>what is selfishness
And much more, there is tons of reasons "evil" people exist rater than "weeee, someone was mean to me i`m going to be mean to everyone now".

>villain is known for being evil
>revision comes decades later, turns out he was just misunderstood

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People who kidnap children to sell them into sex slavery are evil, no exceptions. People who stuff kids into tires and set them on fire for propaganda are evil, no exceptions. People who throw acid in a woman's face because she wants an education are evil, no exceptions. People who gang rape little boys on busses are evil, no exceptions. People who justify wars in a third world country to perpetuate an economy that only serves to make billionaires rich are evil, no exceptions. Someone who murders someone over petty valuables is evil, no exception. People who chop families apart with machetes because someone else sold crack in the wrong spot are evil, no exceptions.

Even if these things are only a "product of their circumstances", they are still inherently evil acts. Ironically, the entire world invented almost identical moral structures independently, yet somehow we apparently have absolutely no idea what good and evil are supposed to look like.

This isn't fucking hard. The only reason you can't possibly imagine a standard is because you're either too weak willed or too stupid to let one be established.

God killed humanity a few times, and God is alwais good. So only God is good other are neutral or evil.

Let me introduce you to , I'm suuuuuuuure you'll get along.

I mean I get you, but also check out the book called Europe Central. It's about all the small people in WW2 who decided to do good or evil and the ways they have been narratavized since. The author isn't trying to deconstruct morality, he's bringing it back by making the question more difficult.

>villain is evil because he's Russian

>Villain is a schizo suicidal faggot who went on a rampage instead of just killing himself

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>villian is evil because the precursors to your civilization nearly destroyed and scattered his civilization thousands of years ago

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Anyne got the Yas Forums posting version?

>the question more difficult.
They are all deserved death and punishment for ww1 and ww2. No good people in this.

>Villain is evil because he fucking loves being evil and to hurt people

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>Villain is completely in the right
>Gets what he deserves, a happy ending alongside him becoming a figurative, godlike figure after all his endless suffering

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kant is a fucking retard and you have mushroombrain

>villain is evil because he's German, British, Japanese, Roman.
Wow

That's the thing though, those are easily recognisable evils, and don't make for good main villains for games that would last any longer than 10 hours.

>op is an incel because of his tragic backstory (autism caused by playing videogames instead of going outside)
I thought you mongoloids liked your epic realism in games

Romans, G**RMS and russians are all objectively evil

Okay you can be a brainlet nigger or you could say thanks for a recommendation to a real cool book.

One of the book's episodes is about the Vichy soldier who defected and warned allied troops, but was tried as a war criminal and had his name tarnished. How do we talk about that guy anymore, and what's the point of doing good when we are forgotten or tarnished?

>villain

>Shit like Game Of Thrones aren't popular...

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What a fucking autist.

In real life everyone are evil and go to hell, or into obvilion even the saints.

You could call him a villain since the book shifts perceptions all the fucking time in the last 1/2 half

Who's the hero and who's the villain are decided by the winner, because that's how history works.

>people are tired of fairytale stories where everything is black-and-white, and want more complex storytelling
>must be (((da jooz)))

God you people are pathetically predictable.
That being said, I do agree that the whole "morally gray" thing has been overdone lately.

>tragic backstory only revealed 2 years after the game came out in DLC

fucking FFXV

>Villain is portrayed as completely and irredeemably evil
>His motives and goals actually make a lot of sense

Everyone are evil such a rules of the game.

>for the sake f being evil
In other words no motivation
What is compelling about that kind of character?

That's not really true. You can't lump people like Jeanne d'Ark in with people like Peter Scully.

>Villain is evil for shits and giggles

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>villain simply enjoys knocking smug bastards who think they have it all figured down a peg
>doesn't bother with the lowly and weak because there's no fun in that

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But dude it's so redpilled and not like all those other games xD

>Okay you can be a brainlet nigger
Brainlet nigger? Look real life is a disaster a war everyone here are evil. You can't say that is not, you brainlet nigger.

This has and always will be bullshit. Motive doesn't matter near as much as aesthetic and presentation of the villain.

Are you? The only people who are evil for the sake of it are cartoon characters. Everyone has a reason.

Br*tish people aren’t human

Dude, stop. To live life, needs to kill. Such a stupid world.

>The only people who are evil for the sake of it are cartoon characters.
We live in a cartoon.

Dude what if he was just an asshole because he's just cool like that haha

Best type of villian.

Real life can be more wacky than any cartoon, there's a reason the saying..."you can't make this up" exists.

There's a difference between quickly killing a dumb animal for food and torturing and raping human children.

>protagonist commits an atrocity because of the villain

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Aren't all life the same?

Objectively wrong user...

Grey, amorphous amorality is actually a retreat into a simpler, less taxing moral paradigm. If everything is grey then moral dilemmas don't really exist, and you can do whatever you want and just say that it's all relative. Actual black and white morality is much harder because it presents limits, and you have to actually THINK about the morality of actions.

Gray vs Gray morality lets you do whatever you want and call it good. It's lazy, fake sophistication.

Yeah that will totally stay interesting and fun for the entire duration of the game.

>black and white morality
Exist only in minds of poor people, rich people have money instead of morality.

No. All human life in a sense, though that valuation can be altered by one's personal choices, but animals are a different story. They're closer to objects and have fewer rights accordingly.

100% evil vs good stories were a relic of an era of great wars and hostility, where you needed to believe the other side was pure evil, otherwise people start questioning why you are indiscriminately killing other humans. Gray morality is nothing else than the recognition that both sides are thinking beings trying to do what is best for themselves or their people, that evil is relative, that treating morality as an absolute is a tactic to dehumanize the adversary.

>eating a steak is the same as murder
Fucking vegans.

Humans have morality definition because they need to coexist among each other. Savages are on the same level as animals are. So only differences are level of morality and empathy, without them everyone are animal.

being selfish isn't evil you retard. Someone isn't going to try and take over the world based on selfishness alone. There will always be a much stronger ulterior motive for such a thing.

you idiot, how could it NOT be all gray? You do know that only children think in black and white, right?

>indiscriminately killing other humans.
youtube.com/watch?v=HdNn5TZu6R8
Maybe because they are invade in country and try to genocide you?

>Winners are Evil.
K.

just because something you don't understand happens doesn't mean there isn't a reason for it you fucking idiot.

desu that's a fair reason. He's got nothing to lose. Vengeance can be a good motiff is written properly. look at Char the red comet

If everyone are grey, you will question yourself and others and get broke.

That's not true. Moral frameworks are logical structures of ideas whose implications evaluate the acceptability of various choices. Empathy has nothing to do with it. Humans are different than animal because they are self aware and capable of rational thought. A rock doesn't think, and humans think the most. An animal sits between the two with only a fraction of the inherent rights of humans as a result.

But what about the soldier of the invading country?

>palpatine was a clone after all only explained in the novelization

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>
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Is this realistic?

>Villain does what he does because he has no choice
>Villain was good at first but loses his way slowly
>Villain is the result of the main character

>what are psychopaths?

>But what about the soldier of the invading country?
youtube.com/watch?v=h4jeI0fY0JQ
He is piece of shit should die like stray dog.

They are doing the right thing but dirtying their hands in the process. However the villain has the balls to break a few eggs for the sake of peace/progress/the world

>villain is evil because of his story

Why the fuck is this a bad thing?

Let's say you were that guy, what would you do?

The president of the United States currently

Because apparently that's a cringey trope now, according to the masterminds of literature, philosophy and psychology here on Yas Forums

>Villain was right about something but the way he reacted to said thing was wrong

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Villains who are doing the right thing, opposite of the Hero's foolish, naive point of view.
Villains forced to do actions that are controversial but they had no choice, slowly being seen as evil for his actions, but not evil, just
villains who are right all along
Revenge is great but i rather have that on the main character than the antagonist.
Villain doing radical or politically incorrect things for good reasons

>Villain wants to destroy the world because he's seen what happens at the end of time when the universe dies and genuinely believes it's his duty to prevent his people from enduring such a horrific and inevitable end.
>Succeeding also means that he has to endure that end alone.

people got tired of the same old black and white stories, so they wanted to deconstruct it
people got tired of the same old subversive morally gray stories, so they want to deconstruct those too

>villain is perceived as main bad guy
>defeat villain
>he was right all along, and now true ancient evil appears

I would kill criminal who enlist me in criminal army. And switch sides. Justice is the only true answer.

>Protagonist and Villains switch roles very often

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To bring about a hero and subsequent heroic age that the world needs.

there are differing levels of gray you know. It isn't just "Gray," its light gray, dark gray, lighter gray, regular gray, even lighter gray, etc...

People who say gray has no differences are complete retards and are probably underage.

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>villain and hero are both in cahoots with eachother; never truly going as far as to permanently get rid of the other so they can both continue acting out their respective roles as villain and hero

the other dude is right, you are retarded, not only that but an ESL as well.

What about the family that are citizens of your nation? Nothing exists in a vacuum, your entire life has been built up in the nation you are fighting for. Let's also not forget that you would never have a clear understanding of the situation as a mere soldier.

youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU
>Are we the Baddies?

Why does the reverse flash has a hole in his chest now?

The only way you can think a psychopath is inherently evil then you are without a doubt underage and probably just learned about the word through shitty horror movies.

>villain is overrated and loved by redditors

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Dude people are up for themselves, patriotism is a scam, to manipulate people.

>robot villain is evil because of its programming

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>villain loses everything they cared about
>dedicates their lives to bring those things back whether through time travel or something similar
>the path the villain walks is morally wrong but he doesn't think it's a big deal due to the fact that his misdeeds will be erased after he achieves his goal
>protagonist still opposes him because "you can't do bad thing"

you are a jingoistic simpleton, you wouldnt do jack shit. In fact, you would probably be the one who is enlisting people for some dumb fucking crusade.

>Vilain was just trying to survive at first, maybe even good
>Turns into a sadistic schizo weirdo from all the people he has to kill, probably was already a sadist from the start but didnt realize it yet

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>villan is evil

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>the villain was right all along
How cliche.

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>Main character becomes the very thing the villain wanted him to become

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>you are a jingoistic simpleton, you wouldnt do jack shit.
If you have conscience, that can kill you. You will not do such a things.

>Villain tells him this
>"I dont care faggot"

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>Villian is the hero from the past who came back to wrong himself so he'd be a hero.

>the villain has a very complicated and well thought out plan to save the world
>involves the use of a very complicated procedure to solve a seemingly unresolvable problem
>has a very high chance of success and would guarantee stability and prosperity for generations

>the hero just hits things really hard when they upset him or get in his way
>his entire argument against the villain's solution is "sacrifice is bad"
>the fact that billions would be sacrificed because of his justice is lost on him, as is the fact that most of the sacrifices have already been made and he's only able to save one person by the end of it all
>this attitude is shown as right because a miracles happens due to the power of friendship, luck, and literal deities wanting his dick
>also the problem isn't even solved permanently and some other asshole in the sequel will do literally the same shit but maybe with a deus ex machina this time to solve it forever*

*it doesn't work because some random asshole accidentally breaks the seal that apparently can be destroyed simply by tripping face-first into it

>villain has the same goals as you

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Kino

Enlightenment, Fight Club has that, not that it makes him right but it justifies why he would think that was right. And in part he was right as it let the protagonist grow out of the place he previously was and become someone new, truer to his self and capable of rejecting and controlling the bad thoughts in his mind.

>the fact that billions would be sacrificed because of his justice is lost on him, as is the fact that most of the sacrifices have already been made and he's only able to save one person by the end of it all
>that one person is the hero's waifu

>villain is right, somehow misunderstood despite the fact any brainlet could figure it out by himself
>hero is just stupid and naive because of course he fucking is.

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wish I could

>Villain tells you to choose between your true love or power and riches
>Can romance any character in the game except for the villain
>They're all shit in comparison

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>villian is well intentioned but constantly botches his actions leading people to think he does it out of malice

Let's say a GTA protagonist.

Female villains, are for to rape. lol

C-CROSS COUNTER??

I'm fucking vomiting.

Fuck you, man.

>civil war erupts in your country, empireseeks to pacify separatists by breaking morale and fighting spirit instead of brutal genocide or having them live in permanent humiliation
>separatist movement only exists in the first place because of rich elites wanting to protect their own means of financial interests (that would have been outlawed under the Empire and made redundant over time) by whipping up the local populace in a jingoist frenzy and national pride and shit
>war seems to go in the Empire's favor with their overwhelming numbers, all seems lost
>out of a desire to protect your home country, you align yourself with the separatists
>you BTFO the Empire's numbers through skill and strategy since the Empire's generals are buffoons, separatist morale is renewed and everyone wants to keep fighting
>end up shooting yourself in the foot after trying to be aggressive with a shortage of manpower, and have no choice but to surrender
>the great irony being that by fighting for the noble cause of your fatherland, you have inadvertently caused more deaths amongst your brethren and more damage to its pride by prolonging an conflict with your prowess that was impossible to win begin with, which without your noble input would have ended much faster and with much less bloodshed

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>villain gets away with everything and fucks off

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>>all of the people the villain killed deserved to die
>>villain did literally nothing wrong

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>defending rapists

There has to be multiple fucking lifetimes worth of media where the villain is Generic Evil Man. Go.

That’d actually be sick, like the universe needs someone to balance you out and they’re an unwitting participant.

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>villain is unbelievably insane, but was also unknowingly manipulated by his own father since childhood

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Big oops right there, chief.

>villain gets away with everything and fucks off

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Who touched Kefka?

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Didn't even need to open the spoiler to know who you posted. Fuck you.

>Can romance and impregnate the villain
>Her ending is the best one

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THARJAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>Villains are evil because it's fun

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Dragon's dogma

Some people are just rotten on their own, most evil people irl are motivated by money

>villain is a clone of an ally

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>villain ruins your life cause you beat his game

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Aren't money is only thing that matters for some people and they do everything for them, even will kill their own family and friends.

>Villain is a super villain because previous hero spared his/her/its life

>hero should've been the villain because he's an insufferable twat

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>What's a good reason for the villain to be evil in your opinion?
When good intentions of others fuck over the same minority over and over again. Every time the to-be villain retaliates everyone says calm down, dude don't be such a bitch geez we're making one helluva omelette over here. Gotta crack some eggs for the good of everyone.

>villain was just trying to liberate a slave race from their brainwashing devices
>whole game treats him like a religious fanatic

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All villains who ever believed their actions were morally justified:
>My system kills 10 people but saves a thousand!
Basically big number of good trumps any less number of bad. Let's kill everyone going to the hospital and take their organs to save 10 other lives.

Based.

>"Villain" knows there is no such thing as evil, only the strong who dare to take what they want

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Utilitarianism is cancer.

>then they cry bitch tears when they lose because you're using your strength in a way that opposes their ideology

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>Villain uses their defeat as impetus to grow stronger, refusing to abandon their might makes right ideology no matter how many setbacks they encounter

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The President for at least the next five years.

>Villain looses again in the same way

Then they lose again and this time die for good.

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>not biden
Go back to rddit berniebro.

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>implying implications
Better dead than red.

BASED

CRINGE

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>voting for touchy joe

>Villain is just an incel

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People don’t become evil for no reason user, it’s because they have suffered a lot in life and they snap and go full fuck everyone mode.

What's that bernebros? Can't hear you over the sound of cheers as Biden won super tuesday.

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It's a cyclical thing.
>Someone does mildly novel thing or thing that hasn't been seen recently
>Everyone apes them
>Thing stops being novel
>People get tired of thing

The Seven deadly sins and the seven cardinal virtues always seem like good motivators for villains

>villain gets beaten by the side character

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I'm just going to vote trump again. I'm fucking tired of traditional politicians. The war in iraq needs to end, warrantless wiretapping should never have been a thing, globalism leaves the american people out in the cold, and corporate america needs to have it's ass held to the fire until they give back to the system that built them up. If I'm lucky trump will burn it all down.

>Villain does horrible things
>Had like one motive that you could empathize with, but is still a psychopath
>After villain dies the heroes mourn him "dindu nuffin he was a good guy"

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>I'm just going to vote trump again

Buttmad Berniebro detected.
>Bernie didn't win so i'll vote Trump. Take that ;_;

Real adults are ridin with Biden.

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>cats are evil...because

So sick of this trope!

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>villain has compelling motive
>villain does horrible things
>villain sees hero
>hero has identical compelling motive
>villain decides to an hero to help the actual hero

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>real adults vote for corporate interests and stagnating decline in the prosperity of his fellows
Kill yourself.

literally no reason

>be irredeemable pieces of shit
>be entirely forgiven by the end

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Are you so retarded that you think the election is between only Sleepy Joe and Burnout?

Cats are only evil because they're obeying their nature, which is to be huge spastic assholes.
Still cute.

>villain is blatantly evil
>gets shit kicked in
>"o sry I was just doing it for the greater good, I'm actually a good guy"

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It kind of is, Drumf isn't getting re-elected.

A longing for love and acceptance.

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If the villains motives are better than the hero's, wouldn't that make him the hero?

>what are """school shooters"""

Freeza is good guy actually.

Healthcare isn't free though. I don't get this meme. Is the joke that black people are so poor they always get walfare?

>villain is evil because he's a capitalist and just really likes money
>villain is evil because he's a wild card sociopath who does basically whatever the plot needs him to do
>villain is evil because he has a bad version of a good vision and doesn't march in tune with liberal democracy/monarchy that exists functionally as an anarcho syndicalist agrarian society that just sort of enjoys the presence of castles
>villain isn't even evil, this is just his job
>villain is evil because they were doing their job
>primary antagonist is evil because he's pretentious, good-looking asshole and/or serial rapist because he's especially privileged
>villain is evil because he loves his brother and his mother
>>that villain is evil because of a curse cast on him after his defeat
>>>that villain is evil because he foolishly split his ego and superego from his id
>>>>that villain is no longer evil but is still responsible for the deaths of at least a 9/11's worth of people in a non-descript metropolitan city but nobody punishes him over it
>villain is evil because he hates borders
>villain is evil because he hates war
>villain is evil because he created a species to play and toy with, committing all sorts of crimes against them
>villain is evil because she's a single reincarnated goddess who wanted to fuck with a podunk town
It's all so tiresome.

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>villain is evil because he likes fighting strong opponents

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how can one man be so based?

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Their ends justify the means but they're also a terrible, malicious human beings too.

Yes

it do be like that tho

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>villain does it all in order to keep a promise they made

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Funny how he has Mithos as avatar, when half-elf get treated like shit even in the story's present day in both Sylvarant and Tethealla.