Final Fantasy 7 Remake Changes One of the Original's Most Iconic Scenes

It came out on PC like a year later than ps1, what the fuck are you on about?

>lady

>Game isn’t out yet
Let me review and make up shit about it, seriously fuck game journalists wasted 5 mins reading this garbage.

It also got recently re-released on Steam, so go on being a fucking pedantic retard as if that changed anything about the argument I guess. And by the way yes, I did play the original PC version after playing it on PS1, although it was several years later.

>Ff7 had bad graphics even at its time
I really wish zoomers would leave Yas Forums

>These days, the pacing of movies like Alien, Godfather, and even the original Star Wars is considered glacial

I hate that they're exactly right. Everyone wants Marvel jokes during quiet moments and something exploding every other scene. Remember that big where nothing happens at all besides a bunch of old men talking about how the senate had been dismantled and then Darth Vader force chokes a guy who was talking shit about the Jedi being fairy tales?

>oh no this person played a game after it originally released, what are we doing as a society? Think of the children!
Retard

Sounds like some bitter aerisfag

Square enix has never made a good game. Why are people surprised that their nostalgia cash grab is lame?

the pc release was 1998

And?

The article makes a good point

No, but square has.

>The game really did look like dogshit, even for its time

shut the fuck up zoomer

point of fucking what
the retard thinks Aerith meeting Cloud in the streets was an iconic moment when everybody knows the church meeting is
she's just mad because Aerith gets brushed aside amidst the chaos but that's what happened in the first game ad well, and you can even tell her to fuck off

>the first encounter with aerith
>"""""one of the most iconic scenes in the game"""""

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The article reads more like they are mad that Aerith is randomly chased off by ghosts rather than just leaving when the conversation was over like the original.

I fucking love Aerith

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How is it not?

>Months uppon months of relentless shilling
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

Her death is iconic meeting her doesn't really stand out, except maybe for fans

It really isn’t
You could remove that scene from the game and have Cloud meet Aerith in the church for the first time and literally nothing would change

The article raises a legitimate concern about the pacing of the remake, which will undoubtedly be different than the original since the remake is being released in parts and each part will have to tell its own story in a satisfying manner while also building up the greater over-arching plot. Odds are they fuck it up but even if they do a good job of it you're still bound to lose a lot of the original's strengths in the process.

What scene and why not for the better? Preferably not in 10 paragraph form

pretty stupid thing to be upset by honestly
again you could simply tell her to fuck off in the original

How the fuck is it iconic? Not just iconic, but ""one of the most iconic scenes in the game""? It's 6 seconds long, even less if you tell her to fuck off, and could be cut entirely with literally nothing of importance changing. When you think of "iconic scene" and "aerith" you think of the church scene, the cross dressing event, the gold saucer date, or her death scene. Literally no one in history has ever though of the first throwaway moment as "iconic" before this clickbait article.

The article is right but for the wrong reason. That bitch sounds like some angry fangirl, but she is right about SE overdoing literally everything

This phenomenon annoys me in general
>this great video game has been ported countless times and is currently available on all sorts of current gen platforms including PC, PS4 and Xbone but of course, like so many, i waited for the inferior performing switch port and purposefully picked it up there and now want to tell you all what a great game it is
That one shitter RGT89 had somehow failed to play DMC3 for 15 years across ALL those platforms but now it's on switch it's "a must own game" but he somehow just didn't care to try it UNTIL IT WAS ON SWITCH OF COURSE!

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the street meeting is not iconic at all, and in fact people often misremember their fret meeting to be the church

Because "muh switch" is the veganism of video games. It's also on everything fucking else, but these people need to let you fucking know they AND SO MANY OTHERS chose the switch™ Version, even though those versions usually come out way later and worse than their competitors readily available versions.

>liked the hint of Sephiroth theme during demo intro
>full intro the reveals has the Sephiroth tones THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE THING

Nobody working on this understands subtlety.

I think the fact they’re cutting up in parts is undoubtedly fucking retarded and if it somehow doesn’t end in disaster, it’ll be nothing short of a god damn miracle
But the only way I could see it working is if they have each part end with the some of the major shit that goes down
Like since this part is definitely just Midgar, the next would have to go on until Aerith dies then after that probably the northern crater and Weapons being unleashed and the final part would have to cover returning to Midgar and battle with Sephiroth

And how is this the console's fault? If anything, shouldn't you be happy more people get to experience what Yas Forums considers good video games? And not like old games have any standards, you playing FFVII on a PSX in 360p or whatever it was doesn't somehow make the 720p Switch port worse.

Dude, you seriously need to find better shit to get mad about
That honestly has to be one of the most pathetic things I’ve ever read

>already fighting Sephiroth/Jenova (the last fucking boss in the original) in Midgar

How is this going to excite anyone to finish this stupid remake when and if it ends?

>Sephiroth pushes Aeris away and tells Cloud he isn't able to save anyone
SE is really shit at handling anything VII related everything feel like they are constantly saying asking "DO U YOU REMEMBER??"

Japs don’t understand subtlety with their media

the funny part is those 2 will be the final bosses for the next 2-3 parts, so how is it going to be exciting?

(if) he actually played it, that's more than the average journalist do

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. How the fuck do you get any emotional satisfaction out of finally killing Sephiroth in the end when the player already fought and killed him a 100 times before. Even more so since we know he will come back in AC regardless. It's a mess

Well from leaks we know we fight a Jenova part, but it's not the final boss.
Let's argue the remake only has two more parts. The Second part will most likely end with a Weapon fight, and The Third with be the real Jenova/Seph fights.

>you playing FFVII on a PSX in 360p
But it's on PC, PS4 and Xbone exactly as the switch version but it's not 720p it's 1080p. Im not saying it's bad that it's on switch, all for it, more power to them, but im tired of seeing how amazing games that have been available EVERYWHERE are suddenly noteworthy because "oh the switch got it! Guys have you heard of this amazing switch game?" It's obnoxious.

His point is that these games existed for years if not decades and only now is it suddenly considered a "masterpiece" because the person just noticed it? It's the same situation the Wii U is in, all these good games to justify buying the system, but until they were ported to the Switch the games weren't worth buying a Wii U for. It makes no sense.

That's not the only change. They also changed the Avalanche bomb to be ineffective (it's actually Shinra that blows up their own reactor), removing all the moral ambiguity around their actions

>until they had 3d down
like in ffxiii? go fuck off kid, ff7 still looks good today and you´re only unable to enjoy it because of grafixxx, you´re as bad as the journo.

So you wanted the person to call the game a masterpiece despite never getting the chance to play it before?

This. Or people purposefully picking terrible versions of games. People KNEW bloodstained worked better everywhere else than on switch but still so many went out and bought that version only to then say "wtf?! Shit game runs like a piece of shit"

>removing all the moral ambiguity
They literally rejoice in being terrorists and Barret even talks shit to Cloud for not wanting to do it for the planet, just to get paid. Shinra blowing up their reactor to stop them doesn't stop everyone for the past thirty minutes going "Yeah, I can't wait to blow up this reactor and take out millions of people's homes because the planet doesn't deserve being used like this".

>ff7 still looks good today
Man FF7 is one of my favorite games ever, but chill out, visually it aged like milk

>but it's not 720p it's 1080p
Oh yeah all the better to see those 800x600 prerendered backgrounds with lmao

The point is you've had close to two decades to notice the game and you never did despite it being literally one of the most prolific games to ever come out. But then the Switch gets it and holy crap it's suddenly an unknown and underrepresented gem in the rough that is best played on the Switch for...some reason? It's like Super Mario Sunshine coming out on the Switch and going "Holy crap guys, Super Mario Sunshine got ported to the Switch, it's a masterpiece!"

>moral ambiguity
is this one of those headcanon things

but the ghosts are kawaii

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FF7 Remake and now "BG3", gaming today is objectively worse than 20 years ago. Nothing is subtle, FF7R is like an Uwe Boll movie.

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no because cait sith straight up reminds barret of the people he killed during the bombing way later on the game and bareet does his whole eggs to make an omelette speech

also how the fuck do they handle the open world if it is 3 parts? god damn beside the graphics this three parts will be pure garbage.

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>Final Fantasy 7 Remake won't be a strictly open-world affair, but will include locations where players can take on side quests and partake in optional activities.

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literally the same face, how lazy can you get

Jessie states in the original that the bomb shouldn't have been that strong and that she followed the instructions properly. She then jokes about making the next bomb stronger, then proceeds to fuck up the passes later on. Again, no blood is directly on Barret's hands. He didn't plant the bomb. Everyone does the dirty work for him. Cloud plants the bomb twice. The change the remake is taking still leaves the moral ambiguity there. The plate is still Avaoanche's fault for playing right into Shinra's hand, and Barret will definitely catch shit for it by the Wutai main sect of Avalanche that Shinra is trying to frame.

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>Again, no blood is directly on Barret's hands.
What?

barret is innocent like charles manson.

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The original game was on 3 disks with only one at a time in the console

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Barret is a dindu

Right is cuter though

also water is wet.

Here's Why.

I thought it was a troll, but then I got to this point
>The chaos is peppered with scattered flashbacks, as well as one very specific vision of Sephiroth—all of which are seemingly intended to establish one of the story's central mysteries. When you finally bump into Aerith, it's once again a very brief sequence; if you choose to buy a flower, she'll pin it on Cloud's chest
>But then, for no reason that I can really discern, she's chased off by dark ghosts resembling the Dementors from Harry Potter, as briefly seen in one of the earlier trailers.

At least have the intellectual honesty to admit you want the game for the fancy graphics and the button mashing, because the story is fucking doomed.

What, the pissing scene?

which pissing scene?

The intro and the first Aerith meeting, it's strongly implied Sephiroth has been following Cloud all over the place and controlling his destiny to make sure he leads him to Meteor, which is fucking horseshit.

inside-games.jp/article/2020/03/03/127751.html
>multiple Japanese sites have done comparisons of the original versus the remake
>literally none of them are crying that they changed it to remove culpability from Avalanche
If you're wondering why that is, it's because everyone who played it in moon knew that Shinra did it.

If it's not stated nor implied nor hinted, it's not canon.
In the original it's none of the above.
Gooks having their own headcanon is irrelevant.
The only actual crime Shinra did is drop the pizza.

Aerith is an annoying dildo wielding prostitute that gets what her thirsty ass deserved with a 10ft pole of a sword.

>Getting cockblocked by Snorlax is more iconic than a boring nohype bitch.

It's not headcanon you fuck. It's what happens because gooks don't have a fucked up translation.

fuck zoomers

>Gooks having their own headcanon is irrelevant.
Well it's in remake now so it wasn't headcanon at all :^)

Next time don't be an EOP and play second-hand translations from people you don't even know

>If it's not stated nor implied nor hinted

There's optional dialogue in the game where Jessie says the bomb wasn't that strong and something was wrong.

>Gooks having their own headcanon is irrelevant.
They're nips, not gooks, the Japanese version is the only one that matters, retard.

Switch versions also tend to cost more.

>I'll wait for a comfy Switch port!
I have a Switch and I genuinely hate these people. Be an idort or fuck off. There's no reason to by proud of playing the shittiest version, and you can still play comfy from bed with other consoles.

It's FFVII, not like it can look better, if anything HD screens make it look like shit. Switch being 720p and 1080p on TV is the same as any of the systems you mentioned. You know why people finally finish these after getting the Switch? Because it's just easier to play in short bursts on a handheld + longer sessions on TV. Turns out people don't care as much about resolution and graphics if they can get portability for it.

>His point is that these games existed for years if not decades and only now is it suddenly considered a "masterpiece" because the person just noticed it?
How could that person consider it a masterpiece earlier if they never played it? Some people have standards and try to call a game good after playing it, unlike 80% of Yas Forums that never finished or starts games they then go and fight for in other threads. If Switch helps at least a few more people to discover good games, it's not a bad thing.

you will find out in 2035

>But then the Switch gets it and holy crap it's suddenly an unknown and underrepresented gem in the rough that is best played on the Switch for...some reason?
Who says it's best played on the Switch? Maybe right now it is, considering Vita and PSP being dead, but you seem to be mad that some people discover old games thanks to the Switch. How is that a problem? Did you play Torment, Baldur's Gate II, Fallout Tactics etc etc? No? I can bet there's a ton of games considered masterpieces that you didn't play yet, and it won't be a problem if you play them thanks to some new system.

bet 5 bucks that they won't mind if she survives at the end

You're missing the point. The question is why this person didn't think to play a game that's at the top of the greatest lists for over two decades but as soon as it drops on the Switch now it's an amazing game that needs to be bought immediately? Here, let's paint this another way:
Wii U has The Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, Mario Kart 8, Smash Brothers, Splatoon, and Hyrule Warriors.
Every single one of these games is only worth owning and a big hit once they hit the Switch despite being the same game. Obviously Splatoon, Mario Kart, and Smash Brothers were big sellers on the Wii U, but nothing to the effect of the Switch.

Why did these people not buy a Wii U for them if they were so good? Why only play them when the Switch came out? Using the other guy's example, why is it that DMC3 is suddenly only on people's radars after it came out on the Switch? Why is it that FFVII is only on that guy's radar when it came on the Switch and not any other system it was on over the years including the PS4 release?

oh dear lord

both are chinless ugly goblins

>reeeeee it's not a shot-for-shot remake!!!!
Boy I'll never grow tired of this

I get where she's coming from, but she honestly is not wording any of it correctly and is overreacting. Their meeting on the street is not iconic at all. This women reeks of secondary.

>I hate mordern journalists

same

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My 8yo son beat the scorpion without using a single phoenix down.

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>This women reeks of secondary.
This guy are sick?

I started a new game means he had played it before, dumbass

People who treat FF stories like they're Shakespeare should be fucking shot.

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the "botched" translation was a better story.

everything about ff7 except for the ntsc release of ff7 is absolute shit.

see

In short: Because new people come to gaming and discover old titles. Wii U had fuck all in terms of interest, so no one discovered any of these games before the Switch. FFVII was a game released so many years ago, it's not even funny. Very few people play classic jRPGs on a PC, decent amount of people on consoles, and the most - on portables. Switch is the same as PSP was ages ago -- remember when hacking made it work and suddenly we had threads about Vagrant Story? It's just that - people discover games by chance. Probably many heard of a FFVII remake, wanted to try the original, and here it is - released and "updated" on PC and consoles. Obviously for such an old title a portable is the best way to go, I did the same with my PSP Go and finished most of my PSX backlog on it, even when I had a PS2 with a chip and a way to burn PSX games for myself - it was just better to play it whenever.

DMC3 is on people's radars maybe because many of the people who talk about it usually go for Nintendo systems and (I think) this is the first time DMC came to a portable and a Nintendo console, so an obvious new group emerged?

>even for its time
Go back sucking your mom tits you fucking zoomer.

Such mechanical mastery is clearly a sign of inceldom.

>the old school graphics would get too much and I would have to bounce

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gonna be a hell of an edging streak

>the "botched" translation was a better story.
Is this how retards are laying the groundwork for when they start complaining about all the "changes" to the story?

>SE literally going with their original interpretation
>REEEEEEEE THATS NOT WHAT HAPPENED

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If you think western games journalism is bad with being paid shills, japanese games journalism is 100 times worse.

I wouldn't say it looks bad, but the way they made towns and locations overly segmented definitely hurt the game. It's such a slog constantly running from one side of the screen to the other 6-7 times with constant screen changes.

Dragon quest xi was ok

Everyone says FF7 had to be cut up, because it'd be too big to do in a modern way. But I don't really get why it couldn't just be the same game but modern graphics, I don't need to be able to go into every house in Midgar...

FF7 does NOT look good. Early 3D games all aged terribly.

Switch shitters don't deserve anything.

The characters don't look good, but the hand drawn backgrounds sure do.

>That quote
Disgusting. The first Star Wars has some of the best pacing of any action film. Hollywood has forgotten that it’s the quiet moments that get audiences to get attached to characters

Different is not necessarily bad, god fucking damn. Just play the originals if the remake fucks the story too hard for your liking, they'll still be there for you to play on your Nintendo Switch.

I just finished the demo.
This game REALLY should have been turn-based.

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You don't play old games for the looks. I still play pic related every few years.

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“I dont have any proof judge but you gotta believe me!”
based retard

>cross thread shitposting
Don't do that.

>Like many people, I started a new game of Final Fantasy 7 when it dropped on Nintendo Switch around this time last year. I did so out of love and nostalgia for the original, but I wasn't sure how long I would stick with it. Previous attempts to replay Final Fantasy 7 through the years had mostly been met with failure, as the old-school graphics would get to be too much and I would bounce.
>This time was different though. Given the emotional distance afforded by time, the visuals felt charming and nostalgic rather than outdated; the art was expressive, the cast charming. I was especially impressed by the often haunting atmosphere, which was backed by Nobuo Uematsu's mournful soundtrack. It no longer felt archaic. It felt grand in scope, and surprisingly emotional.
No it's because you're playing on a smaller screen and your graphics fixated brain can't see how old it looks anymore.

>But then, for no reason that I can really discern, she's chased off by dark ghosts resembling the Dementors from Harry Potter, as briefly seen in one of the earlier trailers.
That sounds pretty bad tbqh.

thread reached the bump limit and someone posted a link leading here

It looked like dogshit.
t. 30 year old boomer
In comparison, here's a 2 year older game on the same console.

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>older

How does it sound bad?
In the original she just walks off.
They're doing more with her ability to communicate with the planet in this game. She was like DOOD I SEE/HEAR DEAD people in the original, but we never saw any examples of this. This person just hated this because it's different.

You're a fucking imbecile.

I play on a 32 inch crt and it still looks good.

If you don't think FF7 backgrounds look as good as that you're a no-taste pleb.

kill yourself, zoomer

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There is literally no reason to replay it on the Switch over the literal half dozen other options, including the PC. But I guess we should be thankful that they're not playing it on their phones.

God I love that art style. Makes me so nostalgic.

>But I guess we should be thankful that they're not playing it on their phones.
Nomura will make a gacha game of it that rewrites the story so that Sephiroth wasn't really bad and the true villain appears in the remake secret ending.

It's tacky to have her run away from spooky goasts

He's right though, you are an imbecile.

months upon months of relentless shitposting and surprise to no one, it's amazing.

Imagine not putting all your hopes on a based Nomura directed game.

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the worst change is the voice actors

>the Wutai main sect of Avalanche

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>IX older than VII

You are the dumbest fuck on the board right now. Congratulations, because that's a fucking feat to behold.

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Jessie isn't talking about her bomb's explosion, user. Avalanche and cloud never see her bomb explode. What they see is the secondary explosion, that of the mako reactor. It is that explosion which surprises Jessie.

>played the game 20 years after everyone else did
>on the fucking switch
>bitching about the PS4 remake

Colour me surprised

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He's replaying it you fucking retard. He played it 20 years ago same as everyone.You don't say that you started a new game of X if you've never played it before.

>He

stop samefagging retard

>Shinra blew up reactor first

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Yeah, I think the game is gonna have some good moments, but shit like this id gonna ruin the experience.

I'd say the older locations look nice, like the Wutai, Icicle Inn or Cosmo Canyon, but the modern locations tend to look bad. The colors and proportions are off.

>muh typo!!!!!!!!!!!!
great argument, fucking imbecile

Nope, Reeve confirms that Avalanche are the ones that did it later in the game

>OH NO, CHANGE. CHANGE IS BAD.
This article and half of Yas Forums.

>He played it 20 years ago same as everyone.

Source: your switchtard ass

Yes. I'll shit you not, guy i know is mad because Barret design is different. He went on for about 5 minutes about how his shades ruin tge character.

Try some reading comprehension you stupid fuck.
>I started a new game...
>I did so out of love and nostalgia for the original
>previous attempts to replay Final Fantasy 7
>attempts to replay Final Fantasy 7
>to replay Final Fantasy 7
>replay Final Fantasy 7

Hey boomers, explain why you have such a boner on this game

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It's an enjoyable game and you have fun playing it.

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Stop shipping your gay article no where does that cunt say she played it 20 years ago. She could have tried playing the first hours and gotten filtered just a few years ago for all we know

It's okay to admit you are wrong about something, user. You might as well get used to it because of how monumentally stupid you are.

Retard

>He
>making shit up

fucking omegayikes

that was the original interpretation if you've played it in nip, it just never went farther than their bomb not working how it should have because 7 was a rushed mess. they're literally interpreting what they meant to in the remake

found the pleb

>original interpretation
Wrong. In the original, Reeve confirms that it was Avalanche that did it

dq team still makes cool shit fortunately
this. the most significance it has ever had is fuel for whoreposters

>get left in the dark thinks Avalanche did it

whoa really

>guy left in the dark thinks Avalanche did it

whoa really

post the japanese proof

They turned the eternal masterpiece that is VII into a soulless hack and slash piece of shit. Fucking atrocious.

just accept that square are taking a different route holy fuck it doesn't even matter because it doesn't change the original at all I'm fucking sick of reading about this fucking stupid shit

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You're being obtuse on purpose. Even a tripfag like you knows that this is purely console fanwank. Its not that people are discovering old games, people are finding shit that got ported to the switch and because its on the switch its a masterpiece. The game itself is fucking irrelevant, its only value to the fanboy is that it got a recent port to the fucking switch. Its part of a long line of consolefaggotry that heaps praise on shit games just because they were exclusive to certain platforms and for the switch, its merely the fact that it managed to be officially released on the platform.

>VII
>masterpiece

game was such a mess you had to buy it a second time to get Weapons to show up and armor didn't even work plus the game is missing basic spells like Aero

My biggest concern is that, honestly, there is no point plot wise for spending 60 hours at Midgard. The only actually important events taking place there are meeting Aerith, Jenova escaping and hinting that somehow Sephiroth had returned. That´s literally all there is to Midgard story wise.
I mean, maybe they could use the extra time to explore the men in black capes or the relationships of Cloud with the Avalanche members so we would care about Jesse and the rest but that´s it.
However according to the trailers it seems there are other terrorist groups and we will se Cloud´s mind breaking up far sooner than the Nibelheim flashback to the point we will see Sephiroth fucking around in the reactors BEFORE Jenova is released and we find his sword. Add to that that there are other rogue SOLDIER members (which Shinra would never allow. Making a member of SOLDIER takes a lot of money, they wouldn´t just let them walk on them. They would send regulars and the Turks to deal with them) and that they said they would explore Cloud´s jack of all trades mercenary life (which means shit tier WRPG fetch questing) and you really have enough elements there to make this game a drag.

>get left in the dark
Reeve is one of the top level executives alongside with Scarlet, Palmer, and Heidegger that have meetings with the president himself. If anyone knows what’s really going on behind the scenes in Shinra, it’s them.

not to mention zack was created last second to make cloud remotely interesting

>Midgard

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I've never heard such a stupid argument. Congratulations. You're really dumb!

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>what a mess, it didn't have Aero
VII is the best game I have ever played. Flawless combination of story, gameplay, visuals, music and cast of characters. If you don't like it you're tasteless and probably stupid.
>muh polygon characters

literally meant to be in the game but they didn't have time to add it so only a few enemies have Aero 3 for no reason
you're probably some retarded zoomer trying to fit in. I played it on pc in 98 when I was 14, and it's easily my in my top 5 of all time, but people who think it's flawless are absolutely retarded

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Yas Forums doesn't like videogames, don't you know?

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Oh my....

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oh fuck off you fucking imbecile

>not thinking something is a masterpiece means you think it's complete shit

I think you've been here too long.

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It's true. Y'all don't like anything

never thought this would make for a reaction image but it works

see
posting here too long on a daily basis rots your brain

>Midgard
Midgar is the best part of the game. It's so unique, decadent and dystopic and Uematsu's music fits like a glove to achieve a brutal, eerie atmosphere.
>game is such a drag
Get back immediately to play CoD please. You are not suited for this experience. It's like teaching a dog to appreciate Vermeer. Enjoy the action of digging out the rotting meat you buried before winter. That's what you're made for.

>typo

yeah okay you fucking wannabe zoomer

underrated post

I love FF7 but I wouldn’t call it flawless in any sense of the word, it’s by far the most easy FF and FF isn’t known for being a hard series in anyway whatsoever except for the Cloud of Darkness I fucking hate her she is such a fucking bitch. It’s easiness far beyond excels even post-ultima FF6 in many areas - it’s very easy to simply not die at all for well into the first hours (the entirety of Midgar is very hard to die in) even if it’s your first time.

>playing VII on PC
The degeneracy is real

Oh, those fucking MIDIS...

youtu.be/zq95gzAgya4
youtu.be/m3bgsfU5TwU

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my dad left me a beefy PC before he died in 97 and I had no money for a PS

>author is a women
Why should I care about inferior subhuman whore?

>There is literally no reason to replay it on the Switch
You mean other than feeling like replaying the game on a platform you're currently using?

My opinions run the complete opposite to Yas Forums, so I want a series that’s as long as detailed as possible but I feel like I am in a dilema with this since I want a remake of 3 like this ASAP
m.youtube.com/watch?v=ek8jEw4N6gI

>accept they have mindlessly butchered the pinnacle of videogames
>accept someone painted a moustache on the Mona Lisa

>secondary
>clickbait
>female

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>character intro doesn't count, consume in silence, her funkopop is all that matters

You're trying too hard to start another autistic circlejerk.

Too much coom, incel. Many women are shit but many women are great human beings.

The remake can't butcher the original because they're two completely separate games, you simpleton.

>typing a 1 minute thing is trying too hard

>Previous attempts to replay Final Fantasy 7 through the years had mostly been met with failure, as the old-school graphics would get to be too much and I would bounce.
I bet she can't read books written before 2010. The Night Land would cause her an aneurysm.

gib tifa

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But they had a chance to do it right and they created a hack&slash turd to appeal to coomer kiddies.

>all the girls are already 9/10
lol

I could take a photo of my dusty ps1. I doubt you were even alive when I played ff7 on it.

wow you got a secondhand ps1 that sure proves nothing

Tihs si a tpyo. Using "older" instead of "newer" or "released two years after" is retardation.

>using the complete opposite fucking word
>typo

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Game's great, everyone bitching about it is just annoying, that's that. Have fun on 04/10 you fucks.

>t. butthurt DQfag

Go back to being a sperm cell and pray your dad doesnt nut you out early on his scat porn addiction.

>they're still going

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Barret directly states that he killed people.

do you really care about this persons opinion?

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>he's still coping

journo is a trannie

People don't realize how Square fucked this up. Sure, Shinra being the ones to blow up the reactor doesn't technically remove the fact Avalanche had every intent on sacrificing lives for their goals, but it DOES remove the idea they have blood on their hands. Ie, at worst, they realize they ALMOST made a terrible mistake if this ever comes to light that Shinra did it and not them, but fortunately, it was taken away before they did, so it's back to Shinra being the real bad guys.

In a sense, they should even thank Shinra now for saving them the more detrimental guilt they would have face later if they had killed innocents.

>they have blood on their hands.
So they didn't kill any guards on the way in?

I 100% grantee that will not be addressed at all and glossed over.
Even so, the impact was that they murdered innocent civilians. No one's gonna feel bad about wage slave Shinra grunts.

>they murdered innocent civilians
This was never stated or shown in the original.

Intro showed them knocking out grunts, not killing them. Think Yakuza: Kiryu fucking murders people in gameplay combat, but the canon wants you to think Kiryu never killed anyone. (Common joke in fandom is the "non-lethal shooting, stabbing, neck-breaking, etc" moves he does.)

>autoplay combat is too complex
Didn't some people won that fight by duct-taping the attack button and going for a walk or something ?

Cait Sith
Doncha worry none, Marlene's in a safe place. She's with Aeris' mama.
Barret!!
What was that scratching just now!?
As long as Marlene is safe, who cares what else happens, right?
I been itchin' to say this to ya fer a while now!
When ya blew the Midgar No. 1 up, how many folks d'ya think died?

Barret
...that was for the life of the planet. Ya gotta expect a few casualties.

Cait Sith
A few? Whaddya mean 'a few'? What may be a few to y'all is everythin' to them who died......
Protect the planet. Hah! Y'all sure sound good!
Ain't no one that'd go against ya. So ya think ya can do whatever y'all want?

Barret
I don't wanna hear that from no one in Shinra...

Cait Sith
......nuthin' I can do 'bout that...

Cloud
- Don't care
- No, what?

Don't care

Gossip
Oh, well excuse ME!

No, what?

Gossip
Ya see, I keep on top of these things, an' if ya ask me......
If you knock out Midgar's power, then all of its computers and signals are going to be knocked out too.
Financially there must've been about a billion gil worth of damage.
An' that ain't all!! A lotta innocent people got killed too!
If the explosion had been in the middle of the night, that woulda been one thing. At least the people coulda gone in their sleep.
This Mako explosion has really sent Midgar into a fit.

Try again.

>they're still going

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>original interpretation
Any source ?
I've always heard that the non-weeb version was full of mistranslations and shit, but no one ever link a site with the key "correct" translations.

source is the fact SE are rolling with it

It doesn't exist. It's just shills on damage control.

>game comes out 2 years later
>has better graphics
yeah no shit sherlock

Game isn't even out and Yas Forums has already turned into a bigger cesspool than usual.

DQ is an exception, because it's only getting published by Square. Developer is Yuji Horii's own studio Armor Project.

I can't remember the last time a shill campaign was this oppressively relentless.

Square paid them handsomely. Gotta earn that "gil".

Why does it feel like the switch is some kind of a personal politics tool now?

I don't understand. Aren't gaming journalists supposed to be passionate experts of videogames? FF7 is one of the greatest classics of videogame history. What literature reviewer would candidly admit never reading, say, little women?

I don't understand.

>original game has dialogue option to literally tell her to gtfo
>she does and you don't see her again until the church scene, no flower, nothing
wow so iconic

japs have ZERO subtly with all of their media though. the acting and storytelling is always over the top

according to max you can nerf the air buster however you want but you can still challenge it at full power. weird how they turned such a forgettable boss into a really cool concept

Typical of Aereeefags. They think she's more important than she actually is. That's why they keep spamming official Square accounts hoping Square-senpai will make their doomed whore waifu live if they kiss enough ass.

It's not Japanese if the character doesn't have a 5 minutes long monologue speaking out loud about what is going on and what he's going to do about it

>The game really did look like dogshit, even for its time.

Weird. I could've swore it was considered a graphical marvel for years. I get the feeling you're not in your 20s yet.

KH2(final mix specifically)
KH3 DLC
TWEWY

FMV's were amazing back then. Fuck, FF8 made them even better. The graphics were very good at release.

A bad example of bad examples, this is. You are comparing two 2D backgrounds in two different games in the same franchise with two years difference between them. Lurk more, you pubeless swine.

>5 minutes long monologue
Bonus points if it's right in the middle of a fight, and/or if there is some timed bomb/apocalypse/fret train clearly stated to be incoming in a few seconds.

People still going into this game without expecting them to change stuff are dumb

It's hinted in the original English version, too. Jessie says she followed a guide to make the bomb but it ended up way stronger than it was supposed to be.

It must suck to be you. Why do you take it so personaly? Stop smoking so much weed, it's making you paranoid and neurotic.

Every time.

Jessie
Oops...
Hey, look at the news... What a blast.
Think it was all because of my bomb? But all I really did was just make it like the computer told me.
Oh no! I must've made a miscalculation somewhere.
Hey, that was my bomb's debut. Makes me kinda proud.

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Yeah, and he was also the only dissenting opinion on everything they discussed. Acting like that in a real corporate environment will get you shut out too, even if not officially demoted. This is especially true in Japan, where they even have a saying "the nail that sticks out gets hammered in," which means they treat you like shit until you fall in line. No one is usually officially punished, though -- people considered company failures will retain their titles or ranks but get their offices moved to the basement or some other similar treatment. It's very appropriate to assume that someone like Reeve is being shut out despite still officially being a high ranked Shinra executive.

Mods, nigger

WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS
video game journalism is a fucking joke

Yet he knew about their plan to drop the plate.

It's 3 years actually, but what's even your point? VII, VIII and IX were all designed back to back, but VII and VIII look like shit (a lot of the time), while IX managed to age gracefully due to superior aesthetics, not technology.

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Gaming "Journalist" is a self appointed title and their standards are piss poor with no integrity. They routinely shift from "I'm a real legit journalist!!!!" to "lol we're just bloggers bro" depending on whatever is convenient at the time, like when they're in legal trouble.

>>game is such a drag

There is an abysmal difference between expanding over the original plot, characters and setting in a significant way and filling a world with meaningless secondary quests and characters that add nothing and fuck over stablished events, characters or can ruin the narrative pacing.
Considering what SE has done with the IP over the years it is safe to assume the second scenario is the one more likely to happen. The dark forces chasing after Aerith, the new terrorist group and new EX-SOLDIER members are some of the things that hint to an unfocused game.

> INB4 Old good, new bad

Bullshit. Pacing is very important for story driven narratives to work. In order to work, the new stuff needs to fit with the stablished legacy that has defined the characters, the world and the narrative. SE has shown time and again that they don´t get why some things worked in the original FF VII.
Making Cloud open up and care about Midgar people or the planet early (which is what´s going to happen if Cloud ends up fetching flowers, rescuing kittens and whatnot) is as retarded as giving Sephiroth friends. Cloud didn´t care about the planet or Avalanche members or whatever, his obsesion with Sephiroth was driven by his desire of vengeance. He then progressively starts to care as a result of his journey and ends up finding himself.
Samewise Sephiroth didn´t have friends, he was always alone, isolated, unable to understand stuff like home or family. His desire to belong somewhere is what allows Jenova to deceive him in the first place and use those feelings to fuel his misanthropy.
The way i see it what SE is doing with FF VII R can have 2 possible outcomes. Either it rewrites character progression changing who Cloud is by making him closer to all those nameless grunts or have a 60 hours game where the character doesn´t grow at all. If you think there is a third option i would welcome some insight.

Yup, and look how much he threw a bitch fit over it. That's going to raise some eyebrows that he can't be trusted. He even ends up giving you false info in the original game, implying that he isn't getting credible intel anymore.

>This iconic scene is ruined!
>The scene really carries no importance

Besides you don’t need to make stuff up to tell everybody that this is gonna be different. We all knew and bitched about the direction they were taking since we saw Aerith and what she was doing 5 seconds into the intro.

This whole flawed directing shouldn’t devalue the classic FF7 is unless you are a retard.

>this is a 20 year old game

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In the original game it was implied Sephiroth was manipulating Cloud to get close to Jenova who then acts as his body for the majority of the game. There are several scenes early on with a disembodied voice manipulating Cloud which is later revealed to be Sephiroth in his head.

I want FFVIII to get the AI upscale treatment too

Yeah we got that you prefer FFIX over FFVII, it is a fair opinion, however thinking that FFVII had bad graphics is absolutely moronic

This but unironically.

FF7 had pretty amazing pacing from beginning to start. It was focused. Then you had that garbage fire called compilation which was god awful filler that added absolute nothing to the story.

Same stuff is happening again.

Would have saved everyone in the world all the arguing if they just made the game 1 to 1 WITH these graphics. And no that wouldnt be a remaster because remastered games still have shit unmodernized graphics

>this looks bad

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this

This is looking like it may be the worst game of the decade. How do you fuck up the greatest game of all time? All they had to do was update the graphics. Literally that's it.

Since when is this scene iconic?? What is this shipperfag writeup, what a waste of a potentially good point.

Confirmed to have not even been born when FFVII originally launched. It's graphics blew everyone away at the time.
What filter is this

Here's the author!

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crt-royale-xm29plus

OH NONONONO WE GOT TOO COCKY AERIS BROS

I can't wait to play this game on my Nintendo Switch! It looks so good! It is coming to the Switch right?

this guy is a faggot but i didnt care for the combat either
maybe changing the button layout wouldve worked for me, though
it wasn't terrible

>le football fan
>le pokemon fan
such shit taste, absolutely not surprising though

People have been arguing this since the article came out. They're both pretty fucking important scenes and they've both been recreated/referenced in other SE works.
The entire premise of the article isn't even wrong. The original scene was great, it's very obvious canonically that Cloud doesn't tell Aerith to fuck off, and the watchers of fate detract from the scene. Just because the person who wrote it constantly says stupid shit, that doesn't mean the actual premise is incorrect.

I love how much this game is filtering people. It's hilarious to see.

Here's your ending bro.

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translate!

>Aeris: "I hate the sky..."

>I hate the sky

Aerith said that in CC

Thank you bros

What the fuck does that even mean?

Crisis Core decided to fuck Aerith's character by making her fear the sky.

Nevermind it never being mentioned or referenced in the original, but even in Before Crisis, she was ready to GTFO of Midgar on her own.

Reminder anyone overly hyping or praising the remake is someone who grew up on KH and the compilation shit that probably never played through the original.

I thought she said she was afraid of it in CC?
She's lived under the plate most of her life.

There are upscale mods for VIII too.

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now she fucking hates it >:(

reminder that ur a faggot

Nope. It needed this change. It's absolutely based.

She explains why in this text that was shown at the exhibit.

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The whole time I read the article I kept thinking to myself "the author sounds like a fag", and turns out it was a woman, which is a fag in a woman's body so I'm not wrong.

I literally have no interest in buying this game despite having played OG to completeion about 8 or so times but I still recognize how nice it looks (i just dont fucking care to replay) but holy shit you are the (YOU) king today with that contrarianism. what a fucking faggot

She tells Zack that having lived under the plate her whole life, when she sees that the sky is so open and vast it makes her feel like it could swallow her up, so she's kind of frightened by it. Zack recalls her worlds when he's dying and seemingly floating to heaven/the lifestream
youtu.be/8cVjyc46eRQ?t=813

Fuck that's nice

He's a faggot but he makes some good points.

Was a pain in the arse when I was running low on health so had to run to not get hit then eventually get into the menu to heal, only to see I hadnt built up enough atb to do the command so I had to do a risky attack just to build it again, and dying in the process.

Alright. I just played a demo for the first time. It's pretty, but something about it feels very unnatural to play. Clunky and awkward, with too many simultaneous resource management rules to keep in mind. Why the hell do I need to fill a meter to use my items? And Stagger seems like a shoehorned in mechanic that you're forced to use because anything larger than a basic soldier is an HP sponge. I dunno. I'm getting apprehensive at this point.

In the "original interpretation", Cloud, Barret, and Aerith were the only party members, and Aerith and Sephiroth were siblings. The visual cue for this was the similarity of their hair. You wouldn't recognize anything about the game aside from the character designs if they went with the original draft.

That said, they are definitely fucking up the tone by trying to foreshadow too much too quick. A black feather in Mako Reactor 1? Aerith getting premonitions interrupting the intro scene while a distorted One Winged Angel plays in the background? Get the fuck out of here.

Look at all that detail. Nu-FF looks nowhere near as good.

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oh fuck that
maybe this chick is onto something

Crisis core its more Canon than the shitty original 7

work on your bait laddy
can't just be this obvious

Unironically kys.

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are you retarded or did you completely forget that was a major plot point in the original

>muh moral ambiguity

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>Scan feature now makes you feel for your enemies

Nice, this game might be a 8.5/10

what is wrong with that?

This has already been debunked.

>Cutscenes shows the crew knocking out the grunts, not killing them
>Gameplay ≠ cutscenes

>g-gameplay doesn't count

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>I have no argument

>the exhibit
What exhibit? 30th anniversary at the Mori?

>Actually pushing the ludonarrative dissonance angle

How much does Kotaku pay you? Poorly or terribly?

Cloud is a merc who thinks he's a super badass. He absolutely slaughtered those kids.

How much does Square pay you? Poorly or terribly?

look at this faggot and laugh

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This. This default combat style is literally called Operator Mode. He's /k/-tier.

REMOVE SHINRA

At least you can admit it.

Think that was the one. It was some big deal where only a handful of people who bought tickets could come and see the exhibit and people got texts from Aerith monologuing about herself or something like that.

The takeaway is that Barret's arm shoots rubbers and the Buster Sword doesn't have an edge.

I'd laugh at you, but your face is too ugly.

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>NOOOOOOOOOOOO THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE STREET WHEN YOU MEET AERITH
>NOOOOO THE SOLDIER HAS TO HOLD THE SWORD IN HIS RIGHT HAND NOT THE LEFT
>NOOOOOOO THE DOG IS SUPPOSED TO BE TO THE LEFT OF THE GATE NOT IN BETWEEN THE GUARDS
This board is an embarrassment

charls has a jawline you'll never achieve

Take it you've never played a single game where you shoot, stab and break someone's neck, but they're somehow still alive in the cutscenes.

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Use promotes wear, tear, and rust. And that's the real waste.

>kotaku
>spend years praising episodic telltale/life is strange/indie shit
>"everything in the remake is great and it's incredible! ....but it's only part one so it's automatically bad"
god I hate them

well, square enix do make very good looking games.

everything else is a betrayal of what makes ff7 good.

isn't there an official manga where jessie biggs and wedge can't pass on because of their regret over killing people so they just float on the lifestream or some shit

what makes FF7 good

>Kotaku
>Play 1/10th of game at a press preview
>Complain you only played 1/10th of a game

>Shot him
>Used materia on him
>Used my deadiest limit breaks
>A fucking truck takes him out
Anyone who thinks gameplay has an actual effect on what the game's story wants is fucking retarded and probably shouldn't be playing games. But that's even assuming they do.

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How come no one's talking about the summon material dlc. I get that they'll likely be just for show and quite weak, but damn it's doesn't bode well if fucking spells are going to be dlc. It's not just a skin for your sword or armour.

Also after all the talk about it being easy I had the missus play the demo before me. She's garbage at games and managed to finish on her first play through, although used one phoenix down and all her pots on scorpion. I can't believe people are dying to that boss.

he doesn't die to the truck you retard
way to prove you never played the game

The demo is literally a tutorial area.

materia system, limit break system, bioshock level of good storytelling, interesting cast of player characters WITH optional ones. open world that opens with vehicular upgrades.

squeenix want to modernize ff7 but its losing what maked it great in the first place (also, monetizing the shitty luminous engine)

>bioshock

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>bioshock level of good storytelling

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tl tr

no it fucking wasn't.
it was a faggot filled cringefest
youtu.be/oASC-LFAdyk?t=3066

Wow, what a faggot

>bioshock

haha fucking zoomers

>favorite games are Nintendo games
>all other games are seen as supplementary
>can now have all the games I want to play on one console
How... awful?

Before Crisis is a deep prequel that gives a lot of information on how AVALANCHE was formed, up to and including their own attempts to poach information on how SOLDIER were produced to make their own.

finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/AVALANCHE

Pic related is Elfe, their attempt at making a knock-off of Sephiroth, and was the leader of AVALANCHE for a while.

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>that one guy who gets upset if you take out the dog first

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Look at the embarrassing retard and laugh

The previous guy was right. You’re a fucking moron. Lying piece of shit Zoomer.

lmfao
>Says FF has gameplay
haha, jesus this shit is funny as fuck.

>>Many are new recruits with little training
This seems like it's to signal that these enemies are weak, not that they should be pitied.

I wouldn't call that one iconic. The church scene with her was the proper meeting and an actual iconic moment.

yeah sylvando is a pretty embarrassing character

I can pity them in the abstract sense, but a wall of guys holding machineguns at me is a wall of guys holding machineguns at me. What becomes the pity is that they were underprepared and underequipped for the job, essentially forfeiting their lives for nothing.

Literally any excuse to talk about yourself

What?

>Blow up reactor
>Avalanche doesn't kill!
Hundreds died that day.

Soul

Yeah and streamers were still dying to that boss.

Ok guys.

Choose an actual iconic scene from FF7 and tell us how do you think that scene is going to get "remade" in this game.

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You are correct. It's been years actually. Weebs have been shilling this game since the announcement.

I just want to see the slap fight scene and how they'll justify Tifa not knocking that milfy tart straight up onto the floor.

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There will be additional and heavy-handed melodrama in the scene where you meet Zack's parents in Gongaga where it was originally a strong indication that you were unaware of something being wrong. Tifa and Aerith both leave in distress, and Cloud is confused. It's going to be some weepy thing with sad music now, even though you're not supposed to know who Zack is yet.

Remember to buy your candy, you consumerist whores.

>tifa watertower dynamic theme + music
You're god damn right I'm gonna buy two Crunch bars.

Wedge survives the plate incident.

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only to sacrifice himself at the Shinra HQ

why are anti-gamers so fucking retarded?

>FF7 came out in 1997
>Decent pre-rendered scenes
>10-polygon characters litter it with zero texturing beyond eyes being pasted on
>No models at all in the game has texture mapping, even the combat ones
Meanwhile that same year on consoles, Goldeneye 64 was a thing, and Quake 2 on PC.

lol she dies

That's IX, and that pissing scene is kino.

In the next year and a half they made FF8 and made up for it in that department.

I would if they stocked the damn things.

FF8 is what FF7 should have been visually. FF8 even had the same problem where everything was basically animated at 3-5fps in combat because SE didn't learn what animation interpolation was. Took until FF9 for them to address that.

I'm interested to see him and Cloud get along as they're both equally awkward.

Looks like a tranny

It was also nerfed in difficulty compared to the E3 and PAX builds, yet streamers STILL struggled

>was also nerfed in difficulty compared to the E3 and PAX builds

[citation needed]

Badger voicing him in the game makes me like his character even more.

It looks like shit and is a big reason why I excuse people saying they made it a point not to play it.It is simply not worth it unless you're just a JRPG fan in general.

okay zoomer

Basically. But, they had to actually create the engine for VIII, and the execs were dragging their feet. The reason Squall has fur on his jacket was to force their hand, so they could say "whoops we're already too far past concepting to go back now, guess you guys have to fund that new engine we've been talking about."

A similar story is how Lulu got a dress made of belts, which was a polygon nightmare at the time.

I'm 23, and you disgust me.

>new thing happen
>me not understand
>me be say it bad lol

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Is it becaise Jenova was "the calamity from the sky"?

Since real source as SE hasn't confirmed it but press who got to play it at both events say the balance of the bombing mission now is easier than those versions of the demo
>youtu.be/hndDcxExTvs?t=1139

>running into drunk whore working the streets and telling her to fuck off
>one of the most iconic scenes

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Meant to type there's no real source yet since SE hasn't officially addressed any difficulty changes between versions

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

youtu.be/s2Cy2m5RAvM

We had this earlier and almost no one calls that drive buy purchase of the flower iconic.

terra is the patrician waifu

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Terra > Aerith
Celes > Tifa

god I love reviewbrah

She'll be buttoned and zipped up.

>Terra > Aerith
Yep
>Celes > Tifa
Celes is cool but I think I'll choose the busty girl who's actually wholesome despite her appearance over the GMO girl who was literally a dungeon slave at one point and probably raped

Love how the game pretends that didn't happen. Kefka wanted to rape both of them.

>muh purity
>implying Tifa hasn't been taking the dick for years like the barslut she is
>forgetting about her rendezvous in Costa del Sol
Admittedly I'm going buy her leotard look rather than the shitty Amano look, but otherwise Celes is a better character than Tifa.

>Reminder that the comment about the assassination attempt on President Shinra in the demo is a direct reference to the events of Before Crisis.

I want it to turn out Scarlet practices judo and her and Tifa get into a sexy, innuendo wrestling math, ie the girl fights in Yakuza 0.

Accurate

>Tfw was going to beat FF6 but GBA got stolen

Should I try it again? Last time I played, I made it up to the point where Locke resurrected his dead lover (Who died 2 seconds later).

>Aerith
Opinion discarded.

>I was right, I was right!
>Senpai noticed me!
>Youtuber more successful than me got to go to a FF7R press event and I'm totally happy for him!

God, I can't watch such sycophantic tripe. YouTube was a mistake.

Disagree. Though FF9 outdid it visually by leaps. But the setting was more bland.

>Should I try it again?
Definitely. I only now just got around to playing it, and I can why people shill it so much.

I think it plays more into the angle that Shinra wants AVALANCHE to be feared, so killing them will be good PR, which does fit the president's character. Also, Barret wanted that result, so...

Zoomer faggots also forget that square had to create a shitload of tech to make FF7. 2 years later and a massive boost to their budget and they could dump more into art and refinement. Back then 2 years in technology was fucking huge.

The moral ambiguity comes from whether their actions were justified.
And they didn't destroy anyone's home, just shinra buildings. They did drop power to large portions of the city though.

The crossdressing quest better provide me with some good spank material.

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I'll admit that the amount of damage you take on normal is higher than I expected, but I only went into red twice because it's easy to lose track of your HP. I half wonder if this idiot just thought he could coast through with basic attacks, potions and Bravers.