Inceldom seems to be primarily a thing in the USA. But why is that exactly?
Is it because prostitution is criminalized in most American states? Are american women so much worse than women in other countries? Or is autism and other mental issues preventing young men from functioning so much more prevalent in the USA?
What is turning American men into incels?
Same is happening here.
My theory:
Modern life makes it possible to be antisocial and not learn any social skills. For example: you can dedicate your entire existance to playing video games in your room. This works out fine at first but when you get older you start running into problems.. Such as being a virgin and not knowing how to be social in real life
thoughts on this?
It's not just a community restricted to America but a circumstance all low-value men come up against
dude its a thing in austria to, i know so many men who havent gotten laid since years, they wont admit it of course, everybody in austria acts like he is a chad who gets laid by a new woman every week but its all just pretending, in fact using tinder in america is a lot easier then in austria, austrian women are picky as hell, inceldom in austria is probably around 50 percent at this point but of course you will deny that
Is it a phenomenon tho?
You always had men that didn't find a partner, what is new is that the internet allows them to connect better
women are mostly whores and becoming increasingly masculinized and ugly to the point that they register to me as cave trolls rather than human. The one in a million girl that actually looks and acts like a girl and isn't a whore probably already has her own Chad. Not like I dont want a girlfriend, but I wont settle for a landwhale and thats about all there is to choose from. It's so hard to see the point in even bothering.
We don't have no such problem. You could be legless or ugly as a nigger and still will find a wife. I won't call myself incel, as I just have to agree to get married and I will, but I'm socially awkward and distant and I never like a woman for more than a week, so I'm choosing to stay celibate/single.
If you convert to Islam, pretty sure someone in Austrian mosque will find you a muslimah. But only retards convert to Islam or follow a religion. There's pussy in religion, though.
i read somewhere that ethnic minorities are over represented in that community. even the guy pictured was part Thai and he attributed that to his lack of success
I am sure it is tough for you being a 30 year old virgin, but confidence is key dont get too creepy and get in the subject of sex straight away. Just dont come across as needy, find common ground and elaborate on that, be playful and look for the signs of attraction, these will become apparent if you are playful and flirtatious enough as women will respond in kind. If not, dont dwell on the situation and move on taking what you can out of the situation.
Pretty sure it's happening everywhere. It happened first in East Asia where the majority of men are incels and is creeping into the West thanks to female sexual liberation.
It is because American women are trash.
And American women are trash because American men are weak and not masculine.
>Inceldom seems to be primarily a thing in the USA.
No.
Definitely not.
One of the reason China is leading the world in "sex robot" technology is that they've had a policy of "dead babies are okay if female" that most of their men die virgins due to simple mathematics.
>What is turning American men into incels?
(((Hollywood)))
Can confirm. Frankly.
but they have a choice. they allowed to make choices even if they're bad ones. these guys aren't entitled to anything, even if they are the most wonderful people on the planet. it's sad to know that these guys are going to be alone for the rest of their lives but what are you going to do? You cant infringe on another persons freedom of choice that's immoral. It's pretty much over if your 25+, when other people have had partners whose been your mistress? solitude. so they might as well give up and fine some other purpose. if your a social outcast for most of your 2-3 decades of existence your pretty much defined by your solitude
Same. Just that nobody I know has a problem stating that they have no sex life. They have 5.000 EUR PCs and 2.000 EUR VR headsets... I guess that's just as good
Band needs aren't a new thing. Giving it a new name doesn't mean it's new.
>illegal prostitution
>special snowflake culture in school
>horrible education system
>neetbux
>nonexisting mental health care
>culture of letting adults live in parents' basement
It happens everywhere, there are plenty in Asia but Americans are used to getting what they want, especially if they are wealthy. They get very angry if they can't have it and turn violent and bitter.
As socially liberal as I am even I recognize that some authoritarianism is beneficial. The enforced monogamy of the pre-1950's resulting from marriage and slut shaming was not beneficial to the most attractive of men but all men. Humans are evolved from chimps, and similar to chimps humans are naturally polyamorous, and men will readily fuck more than one women while women don't really suffer from sharing men. Of course this made "incels" suffer and forced them to rape women for reproduction. Now getting away with rape (and impregnating someone against their will) is almost impossible so the antisocial gene is dying out for better or worse. Combine the disadvantage antisocial men have in modern society with the sexual liberation of women and you get a tinderbox ready to ignite.
monogamy is something you see in the civilised world. back in the day it was one dude with a bunch of girls. it's better they give up, lets say they get the girl their self worth is going to rest on the shoulders of that person leaves it's going to hit them like a tonne of bricks. also that person won't like them for who they are in your scenario. They are only in a relationship because of an artificially created environment that benefits the guys. If a guy accepts that there is a big chance that he might be alone for the rest of his life any relationship he is in will be a bonus, he's going to be emotionally independent because he knows statistically speaking it could end, and he's not the one whose statistically likely to break it up. in a way it's a good thing you know that you cannot rely on somebody else for emotional support, you are your own therapist.
I think it's the same for all Western Europe countries. I know two guys who got laid for the first time during a roadtrip in the US. American incels are louder but the hypergamy is even stronger in Europe. Talking to any woman you don't personally know is almost sex harassment, etc.
We just have too much pride to admit that at least 50% of us never have sex.
>hypergamy
You don't even know what that word means.
>50% of us never have sex
You mean 50% of high schoolers like you?
>people thought what was happening in Japan was a result of asian culture
what actually happened was that Japan reached a state of social alienation through the internet much faster than other countries. Now that the rest of the world is catching up, they are starting to see the same results. Women being funneled all the attention from men online.
that wonderful man from your country houellebecq explains this phenomenon perfectly. i love reading his books
Well, I'm anonymous in here, besides for glowniggeranons, so I can be honest without fear of further social ostracization by the hand full of people I got contact with.
lol Imagine being angry cuz you don't get laid after being a teenager
>You don't even know what that word means.
I don't care about what it used to mean you arrogant prick, I'm talking about what it means right now in the internet culture: women who refuse lookmatching and only accept to talk to the most attractive men they can share.
>You mean 50% of high schoolers like you?
Being in denial won't make anything better in your life. We know guys like you, virtual role models and 5'4" ugly manlets IRL.
Context?
Men had to be emotionally independent even during the times of enforced monogamy, women certainly weren't expected to and didn't want to be with a man with emotional problems. The situation has only gotten worse for men because while the expectations for men haven't changed, women can do whatever the fuck they want now but still aren't expected to work as hard or be as self-sufficient as men and basically are just better off than men in the modern world.
Poor fathers are turning men into incels. Get married, have children, be a good dad that teachers your son how to be a man and the problem with fix itself. For fucks sake anons.
Welcome to /pol, newfag. That's from a livestream footage from the gunman of Halle, a copycat of the Christchurch attack. He tried to get into a synagogue, but failed because of a wooden door.
We do not call out autistic cunts and the women here are terrible.
I have meet women from Spain, France and Japan and by far we have it the worst. For some reason our women think they "deserve" the "bestman" and by that I mean who ever they abstractly decide to hook up with. Trying to get laid in the U.S is like pulling a slot machine, you don't if you are going to win or not because there is no consistency on what these women want out of a man. We also allow autistic and all the other colors of fucked up into our schools, load them up on drugs and expect them to act normal. Combine all this with an unchecked porn culture and you have a recipe for disaster.
I'm currently reading his last book Sérotonine which is pushing the logic from Extension du domaine de la lutte even further.
You should really read that when it gets a translation.
Autism. 100%. Got a discord where we're just some 28-30 year old guys playing old games or whatever once in a while, the Americans of our group still dress like they're 18, and can't seem to grow up. I'm convinced they're all on the spectrum.
I'd say its because we are the epicenter of multicultural brainwashing, and our women have become among the worst in the west as a result. Nobody likes our women. I've even had black guys who fuck our women say they are "sick of them." They have become completely insane, completely helpless, annoying brats. From what I hear, the UK is similar.
Solution? Bully our women.
>Poor fathers are turning men into incels. >Get married
Is it an elaborate troll ?
And the subtitles are fake, the real ones are "Can't you do this somewhere else"?
Found the incel
To be fair, 28 years old attractive guys don't wear a suit every day either. It's true that video games don't help though. Escapism has pushed too many guys to accept their shitty lives.
kys let him talk
I’m extremely masculine. I have hair on my pee pee
Yes, forgot to mention that.
Macroevolution has never been proved, brainlet
America is far more consumerist, has greater access to lethal firearms, and is ruthlessly unforgiving of personal faults or failures.
So this creates an underclass of angsty, often young white men who lash out at society.
>I have hair on my pee pee
Pic or GTFO.
Disgusting, go away coomer
I've had sex with many attractive girls. Over 99% of men will have sex in their lifetime. You seem to have chosen to belong to the less than 1% that die virgins. It's your choice so don't be so angry about it.
Economics mostly. Many young men in America have no future and no hope of starting a family.
Also, this isn't an exclusive American problem either. The difference is if my own country had lax firearm controls you'd probably see similar outbursts.
Unless you have some severe handicap, no one is involuntarily celibate, you can always find a way to pay to get laid even if it's illegal. The term isn't about sex, it's about not having a girlfriend that you can read the Sunday paper with while drinking coffee and then go have a picnic in the park. For whatever reasons a lot of guys (even good looking guys) can't pull this off. BTW, it's not all it's cracked up to be.
It is, marriage rates used to be much higher for one, and women had a completely different mentality a few decades ago (more submissive to men, being a thot was frowned upon) which made starting a relationship much easier. Life was also much more social than it is today.
draconian laws against men where any whore on the street or in the workplace can accuse you of harassment and your wife can take you to the family court to destroy you financially and take away your children. this results in a lot of single mothers and strong independant wimmin who raise emasculated boys without fathers
You reached this conclusion without any real evidence or good reasoning.
>I've had sex with many attractive girls.
Yes and you come here to check if everybody else is still a virgin between two threesomes. Same old story. Go eat some chocolate, Stanislas.
but i remember some person on YouTube saying when a man is dumped by his partner, the despair and despondency he feels is similar to a child who has been abandoned by his mother. Before these people enter adulthood, they were always treated by adults with a special kind of consideration because they were children, they received unconditional love from their parents. To go from that to being seen as invisible is a very bitter pill to swallow
The availability of prostitutes means that those people are volcel.
I don't know user, maybe the chemicals and cheap hydrocarbons we ingest on a daily basis and unimaginable amounts of porn dont make the effort worthwhile. Not being able to afford a decent house 350k makes life very hard.
Getting laid is ridiculously easy and leads me to believe that the majority of those who can't get laid either lack all social skills or have zero intellectual capability.
1.) Dress decently
2.) Shower
3.) Talk to a woman, she will neg you the entire time
4.) Tease her and outwit her, make her feel stupid
5.) She will have sex with you
It is because the socail media. Women now can easily make themselves advertisements in the dating market and attract the biggest Chad that they can ever find through the whole internet. In the past they were somehow limited to their local social circle and thus they give less Chad men some opportunities.
As a result nowadays around 20% men fuck like 80% of women. The lesser bicthes cannot expect any resouces (except dick and semon) from the Chads tho. Therefore they go the full 'Alpha fux, beta bux' mode.
The dating market is fucked up anyway. You can only get used up gold digging whores who already sucked down a mountain of dicks or fat landwhale that the Chads don't even bother to fuck.