Antisemitic Conspiracies Debunked

This thread will be very contented but I sincerely believe it is of crucial importance that if we incels are to seek further truth of the nature of the world and universe, antisemitism is something of which we must consign to ideological HISTORY. I do not stand for censorship, I despise laws against hatespeech and antisemitism as much as anybody. My thread is to merely display the fact that antisemitism is irrational, based on falsehoods, and ultimately stems from lookism. This thread is not meant to attack anyone who is an antisemite, as there there is many reasons for reasonable people to be skeptical of and even hold contempt for the Jews. I believe that while that may be the case, a closer analysis of Jews reveals they are not as malevolent, powerful, or historically significant as they are made out to be,

First I would like to dispute the idea that the Jews are the controllers of the world. This could not be further from the truth. It is undisputed Jews hold high positions of power, but this is actually a fairly recent phenomenon. Often antisemites claim that the West has always been under Jewish control, some dating their grip back even to the enlightenment, this is nonsense. In fact Jews have been discriminated against and prosecuted by the Western powers until arguably the 1970s. Before World War 2, Jews in Palestine were under strict British occupation. In most arbitration's, the British took the side of the Arabic courts.

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Jews were denied employment, had their land stripped from them, faced persecution by the Arabic police, and often faced SS-style raids from British soldiers. During world war 2 antisemitism became less popular as it was associated with enemy Nazi propaganda; much to the same way that being socialist was seen as treasonous in 1950s America only because the enemy communists held socialistic tendencies as a value. This relative decline in antisemitism, combined with mass lobbying on part of the International Zionist League (largely funded by the Rothschilds) which in tern led to the British de-facto recognition that Jews held a place in Israel. Despite these efforts, the British still did not officially recognize Jews in Israel as legitimate sovereign citizens and continued to oppress them with racist, imperialist, and fascist laws until 1946. 1946 is when the British finally driven out of Palestine by Zionist terrorists who bombed the King David hotel, which was being used as the British forces HQ at the time. I 100% condemn this attack and it makes me sick to my stomach how David Ben-Gurion, the master-mind behind the attack, later became the first Prime Minister of Israel. While I may not be painting the settler Zionists in a positive favor, I am merely showing how they were not the controllers of the West that Nazi propaganda made them out to be. It was not until 1948 that the British finally recognized Israel as an independent nation, largely in part because the U.N recognized it. Keep in mind the only reason the U.N recognized Israel was because the U.N was controlled by American, French, and Soviet interests, and those three states only wanted to piss off the Arabs of the region for siding with the Nazis in the second world war.

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Antisemites often cite evidence for a Jewish conspiracy by the fact that the United States today sends so much aid to Israel. It is true that the United States sends a ton of aid to Israel and expects nothing in return, the U.S does this to MANY countries when they want to push geopolitical agendas. Israel is essentially a Spartan state in the middle East, it's the United State's state-disguised military base. Throughout the past 200 years the Middle East has been a battleground because it's such a geopolitical power-point. Even before the discovery of oil, Middle Eastern control was sought after by Turkey, France, Britain, Egypt, Russia, China, and of course the Islamists who inhabited it. The U.S government does want the rich oil in the region and loves controlling the drugs flowing from Afghanistan to fund their Black Ops, but the primary reason the U.S is in the middle east is because we're still in a cold-war with the Slavic and Sino civilizations and middle eastern control is critical. Israel is NOT controlling the U.S, Israel is their pawn who keeps the islamists distracted from targeting the West and justifies unlimited presence in the area. Zionist lobbyists have lots of power in the United States but the power of lobbyists is REMARKABLY exaggerated. Lobbyists are typically powerless unless there is already a political push for a certain policy; for example private-prison lobbyists may successfully be able to lobby for more incarceration IF their is a public or political push for reducing crime and locking up criminals. If the U.S had no skin in the game supporting Israel, the Zionist lobbyists would be ignored and no politician would listen to them. The argument that the U.S supporting Israel evidences a Jewish conspiracy is laughable.

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After the Exclamation Proclamation freed the black slaves in America, the U.S government originally wanted to send blacks back to Africa as an American arm in Africa to compete with the European imperialists. The U.S quickly invaded what is today "Liberia", founded the nation "Liberia", and sent numerous American blacks over to become the ruling-class of this newly formed State. Many educated blacks like Frederick Douglas supported this idea in public Congress because they doubted they'd ever be seen as equal in the United States (you could even consider these educated blacks """"lobbyists""""". The U.S gave lots of free money to Liberia, hoping to build it into a powerful African puppet state and be the start of U.S African imperialism. To claim Israel controls America would be equally as silly as saying that blacks from Liberia controlled America, and you would have the same evidence arguing either point. America has supported Israel since the late 1940s, and it wasn't until the 1970s that most Universities even started hiring Jews. The U.S has also supported numerous Islamic regimes, enemies of Israel in fact, for far longer and much more generously. Saudi Arabia was originally crafted by the British occupiers, but the United States turned them into an economic super-power with the Nixon-Kissenger Petrodollar deal of the late 1970s. Now just as one would not argue Liberia ever controlled the United States, I hope no one would be foolish enough to say this is proof that Saudi Arabia controls the U.S.

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Excellent question, but the Rothschilds are not indicative of anything. While growing up, Nathan Rothschild and his family faced extreme persecution by the German authorities. Nathan Rothschild was a successful banker for four reasons.

1) Nathan Rothschild and his many brothers worked together across Europe to maintain their family name, prestige, and reputation, and did a damn good job at it

2) Rothschild and his his many brothers invented a brilliant checks-system that allowed international travelers and investors to record, move, and account for funds across European borders, with the trust being in the Rothschild name. This was so revolutionary and so efficient that no amount of antisemitism could hinder the success of the Rothschild name. This is much to the same phenomenon as modern-era Conservatives who hate big-tech with a passion, yet can not stop using Google.

3) The, Rothschilds happened to just establish their name as the Napoleonic wars were breaking out. This led to a capital shortage where investors all across pulled their money out of stocks and non-established wealth firms and only put it in the most trusted banks, Nathan Rothschild was the head of one, so he got a ton of business. The wars also pulled up the real interest rate to unprecedented levels allowing the banking class to heavily profit.

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4) When Napoleon was finally defeated at the battle of Waterloo, the Rothschild's had secret informers run back and tell the British press that Napoleon had WON the war and was on route to conquering England. Upon hearing this, English stocks plummeted. Everyone pulled their money out of the stock market causing the stock market to tank. The value of the British pound also became worthless because the of fears the french were going to replace the currency with their own. Nathan Rothschild, being the only one to know it was a hoax, quickly bought up as many stocks and and properties as he could. This was not hard to do as Rothschild had access to mass reserves of all different types of currencies and people were selling everything they had for pennies. When news got back that the British actually WON the war, British stocks and properties shot up in value even higher than they were before! Rothschild now owned nearly all of England's wealth, and thus 1812 and beyond was known as the "age of Rothschild".

Rothschild was extremely rich, and he was a Jew, but this by no means indicates a Jewish conspiracy. Rothschild was an EXCEPTION who got EXTREMELY LUCKY. It's also worth noting that even with all this wealth and power, and even before pulling that crazy scam, he was still hated by British society. His banks were regularly vandalized, he was assaulted on the streets and required guards, propaganda papers all across Europe portrayed him as a SEETHING UGLY JEW. Rothschild's power can be compared to Trump's first year in office, he was officially the President but everybody in the establishment hated him and actively worked to sabotage his wishes. Rothschild's reign is by no means indication of any larger Jewish conspiracy and when one looks at all the relevant details, ti becomes clear that the Rothschild story shows Jewish struggle and discrimination more than anything.

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Why does only Israel get to mandate a DNA test for citizenship?

The point of stating everything I did above was to attack the proponents of the "Jewish Question" by the roots. The most fundamental and convincing arguments for a Jewish world conspiracy is the dominance of Jewish banking interest which ultimately stems from the Rothschild family. Once we recognize that this was a mere fluke, and the Rothschild's lost their power significantly after their short-lived reign, we can dismiss this conspiracy as a misinterpretation of history. The world is a complex place controlled by many different interests, power struggles behind the public curtain are happening all the time and Jews do play a role, but it's a gross oversimplification to to claim it's all a Jewish conspiracy or even Jewish nepotism. This begs the question though,

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Why are Jews so intelligent?

The answer has been right in front of us for years. The answer is IQ. Ashkennazi Jews (and COINCIDENTALLY the only Jews who are successful and ever are used as evidence of a grand Jewish conspiracy) have an average IQ score of 115 while non-Jewish whites have an average IQ of 100. While the difference between 100 and 115 is only just noticeable on a surface level, the indication is has for individuals in the upper echelons is substantial. This is because of the Pareto principal. If you have an IQ of 100, and assuming normal distribution (which is usually the case when outliers like genetic deformities are removed), there is a 0.1% out of 100 chance you'll have an IQ of 145 (since 145 is three standard deviations above the mean of 100). Since there are around 200,000,000 white Americans, that means there are 200,000 whites with an IQ of at least 145 (because 200,000,000 times 0.001 = 200,000). Since Jews have an IQ of 115, they only need to be two standard deviations above their mean IQ to get an IQ of 145, that means they need to be above 97.7% of the general population. That's 2.3% of their population. Since there are 6,000,000 Jews in the United States, that means there should be 138,000 Jews with an IQ of 145 or more.

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138,000 Jews have an IQ above or equal to 145

200,000 Non-Jewish whites have an IQ above or equal to 145

138,000 + 200,000 = 338000

138,000/338,000 = 0.408 or 40.8%

By looking ONLY at IQ, we should EXPECT, not be astonished, when we see that 40% of the billionaire population is Jewish

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So why are Jews hated so much?

The answer is LOOKISM

Jews evolved to be intelligent over thousands of years because of intense systemic oppression. Antisemites love saying "Jews have been expelled from every European country (and some Middle Eastern ones) at least once!" to show the Jews have always been a menace and to give legitimacy to antisemitism. Like many antisemitic arguments, this is only good on a surface level, but digging deeper it becomes clear why Jews were kicked out of every country in Europe. A combination between tribalism and lookism. Allow me to explain with four points.

1) Humans are naturally tribalistic and will grant basic decency to other humans who are part of their tribe.

2) Humans, like all animals but on a more advanced level, appreciate beauty and aestheticism, and scorn what is ugly. Humans will naturally dislike what is ugly UNLESS that which is ugly is part of their tribe. This is why the elderly are universally treated with relative respect

3) Humans make generalizations because despite what some ideologues have to say, you have to generalize to survive. The world is too complex and information packed to access every single person as an individual and every object as if its unique, we group, we categorize, and we generalize.

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Chosen sample size? L

>In fact Jews have been discriminated against and prosecuted by the Western powers until arguably the 1970s.
Jews have been "discriminated" agaisnt for their entire history. It's almost like they are a fucking parasite that is hated every whresre the go
>Jews reveals they are not as malevolent, powerful, or historically significant as they are made out to be,
Jews are pure evil. You're right they don't have any real power
>Historically significant
Getting exiled from everywhere youve been is pretty historically significant
So is killing the Son of God
>Jews were denied employment, had their land stripped from them, faced persecution by the Arabic police, and often faced SS-style raids from British soldiers.
Because they destroy every nation they go to. It wasn't discrimination or persecution, it was justice.
>During world war 2 antisemitism became less popular as it was associated with enemy Nazi propaganda;


It got less popular because Jews convinced the world they were victims and not responsible for what Hitler did and people were terrified of being associated with nazis due to your lies about what happened.
>British de-facto recognition that Jews held a place in Israel. Despite these efforts, the British still did not officially recognize Jews in Israel as legitimate sovereign citizens
Because they aren't and no one should ever recognize them

>continued to oppress them with racist, imperialist, and fascist laws until 1946

>how they were not the controllers of the West that Nazi propaganda made them out to be
Nazi propganda faked by kikes to sell their lies. The Nazis didn't say they controlled the west, they wanted them gone for ruining Germany with their degeneracy, same thing as 108 other nations throughout history

>Keep in mind the only reason the U.N recognized Israel was because the U.N was controlled by American, French, and Soviet interests,
It was out of pity

literally posts blocks of texts thinking someone will read it
or even better believe it
you've just wasted your time buddy

>we incels
stopped reading there

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I read it partly and it's all so fucking worthless
it doesn't specifically debunk ANY of the jewish conspiracies
your 2 posts are
>american aid
>Rotschild
so becuase of rotcshild every jewish banker is oppressed because it's attacked by the core which can be understand by fed that was led by rotschild after he passed it to his people who now operate on hisdemands
he automatized a lot of things

who the fuck are you

It's called setting an argument, you have to establish a setting before you can explain how certain facts debunk an argument

You're low IQ

This was from an incel forum so it said that.

You and me seem to be in agreement about most things. Allow me to explain

>Jews have been "discriminated" agaisnt for their entire history. It's almost like they are a fucking parasite that is hated every whresre the go

That's explained later in the IQ and LOOKISM part

>Nazi propganda faked by kikes to sell their lies. The Nazis didn't say they controlled the west, they wanted them gone for ruining Germany with their degeneracy, same thing as 108 other nations throughout history
Then we are in agreement for the most part, I am specifically debunking those who claim Jews are a powerful people.

it's called using shit that's been posted several times and every time it was meant to be debunking the jewish question every time failed
>napoleonic wars
who even? idk
>255615999
that a must
ant there's rest muh oppresion and middle eastern happenings not so good to have this much text on that kind of broad topic but you are a debunker

This entire paragraph is flat out lies

>. The U.S government does want the rich oil in the region and loves controlling the drugs flowing from Afghanistan to fund their Black Ops, but the primary reason the U.S is in the middle east is because we're still in a cold-war with the Slavic and Sino civilizations and middle eastern control is critical.
The USA was never interested in the middle East until during the world wars.


>Israel is NOT controlling the U.S, Israel is their pawn who keeps the islamists distracted from targeting the West and justifies unlimited presence in the area
Nice try, lying rat. The west never had problem with Islamic terorr until after they got involved helping Israel

Oh and those islamic terorrists? Yeah, most of them are Jews. Pic related

>. If the U.S had no skin in the game supporting Israel, the Zionist lobbyists would be ignored and no politician would listen to them.
That's when the false flags start to happen.


The USA does send aid to other countries, the difference is Israel has directly killed Americans on more than one occasion
>To claim Israel controls America would be equally as silly as saying that blacks from Liberia controlled America, and you would have the same evidence arguing either point.
Blacks don't have an entire set of rules they have to play by
Blacks don't have a law that is used to silence any criticism
>. The U.S has also supported numerous Islamic regimes, enemies of Israel in fact, for far longer and much more generously.

They haven't, they trained Al Qaeda to fight the Soviets, Israel is irellevant in that case

The Rothchild family got rich by funding wars and usury.
The war raised interest? No, the kike bankers raised interest to cash in.

>. His banks were regularly vandalized, he was assaulted on the streets and required guards, propaganda papers all across Europe portrayed him as a SEETHING UGLY JEW
Funny, the same thing happened everywhere Jews went

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Same here

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>Rothschild's power can be compared to Trump's first year in office, he was officially the President
Trump was elected, Rothschild got in through deceit
>! Rothschild now owned nearly all of England's wealth
By taking advantage of people in their time of need? And you wonder why people hated him
>Rothschild's reign is by no means indication of any larger Jewish conspiracy
Then explain why Jews have been incharge of major banking since Rome?

>Rothschild story shows Jewish struggle and discrimination more than anything.
All it shows is that kikes will do anything to avoid responsibility

>Nathan Rothschild, being the only one to know it was a hoax, quickly bought up as many stocks and and properties as he could.
He knew it was a hoax because he founded the war from the start
>The most fundamental and convincing arguments for a Jewish world conspiracy is the dominance of Jewish banking interest which ultimately stems from the Rothschild family.

No it doesn't you dumb fuck, it's the reason why Jesus kicked them out of the temple
>Why are Jews so intelligent?
They aren't, the test that is cited when Jews talk about IQ is from a ten question test based on vocabulary

If Jews were smart, you'd have learned your lesson after 109 nations kicked you out

>By looking ONLY at IQ
Yeah, you only look at IQ because you have nothing else to show youre intelligent, because you're not
>1) Humans are naturally tribalistic and will grant basic decency to other humans who are part of their tribe.

Yeah the difference is you pretend to be part of our tribe and won't leave us alone, ever


>Humans will naturally dislike what is ugly UNLESS that which is ugly is part of their tribe

Yeah,humans will naturally dislike ugly, which explains why every group of people has exiled the Jews
>) Humans make generalizations because despite what some ideologues have to say, you have to generalize to survive
Only when it fits

>You and me seem to be in agreement about most things
No by at all

>That's explained later in the IQ and LOOKISM part
Jewish IQ is a total farce.
Smart people learn from their mistakes

>I am specifically debunking those who claim Jews are a powerful people.
You aren't debunking anything, the only thing youve debunked is whether Jews can be honest

You're proving the fact Jews AREN'T smart aside from vocabulary

Youve posted entire essays of lies and deflection. Literally all you've done is blame others and claim to innocent

Youre a liar, like all kikes. Litterally everything youve done is blame others and claim anti semitism if people say others

It fully debunked every Jewish conspiracy, you're just not very smart.

>The USA was never interested in the middle East until during the world wars.

Yes, that agrees with my point. That's when it became a geopolitical hotspot.

>Nice try, lying rat. The west never had problem with Islamic terorr until after they got involved helping Israel

The West never had a problem with Islamic terror until 30 years after controlling Israel as well.

>Blacks don't have a law that is used to silence any criticism
You're technically allowed to criticize Jews in the U.S, it will just ruin your career. Same with criticizing blacks.

>The war raised interest? No, the kike bankers raised interest to cash in.

If bankers raised interest in a non-war period then no one would borrow from them. Interest can only rise really high during wartime because governments need to borrow large amounts to finance the war

>Funny, the same thing happened everywhere Jews went
That kind of proves my point.

>Then explain why Jews have been incharge of major banking since Rome?

They haven't. The Rockefellers, the Fuggers, J.P Morgan, etc were all bigger bankers than the Jews. Most money-lenders in the middle ages were ethnic German

>He knew it was a hoax because he founded the war from the start
No, he just had spies tell him when everything was going down.

>No it doesn't you dumb fuck, it's the reason why Jesus kicked them out of the temple
You're retarded, the argument used by most conspiracy theorists is the Rothschild dynasty, no one agrues they controlled banking before then.

>If Jews were smart, you'd have learned your lesson after 109 nations kicked you out

This is retarded, Jews are hated because they are ugly, you can't just learn not to be ugly

>Yeah,humans will naturally dislike ugly, which explains why every group of people has exiled the Jews

Yes, exactly, hating someone because they're ugly is fucked up.

>smart people learn from their mistakes

How can you learn not to have a big ugly nose that people hate you for?

"We incels"
Speak for yourself faggot

>Yes, that agrees with my point. That's when it became a geopolitical hotspot.

You really aren't helping your case for Jews being smart eh?
It become a hotspot after the world wars? I guess the world wars were 200 years ago according to what you claimed here.
>Throughout the past 200 years the Middle East has been a battleground because it's such a geopolitical power-poin

>The West never had a problem with Islamic terror until 30 years after controlling Israel as well.

It's almost like Israel is false flagging the west and blaming it on Muslims, because they can't fight their own battles, isn't it?
>Jews are around long enough to get settled as a nation and they want to make a push for power in the West
>Suddenly islamic terorrists start attacking the West

>You're technically allowed to criticize Jews in the U.S, it will just ruin your career.
Any criticism of Jews is called anti semetism, just look at all the times you've used that very buzz word
It's almost like you have to shut down any discussion because it will expose your shit?
>If bankers raised interest in a non-war period then no one would borrow from them
Atleast you admit they're parasitic pieces of shit who no one wants to associate with outside of times they are in dire need?

You literally admit that Jews jack up prices during a crisis and try to justify it

>. Interest can only rise really high during wartime because governments need to borrow large amounts to finance the war
So you admit that you think it's okay to jack up interest during a crisis, and not only that you actually want to raise interest really high MORE OFTEN


Rockadellers made their money in petro, not banking. Nice try, they were associated with Chase Manhattan but not much more

The Fuggere were prominent bankers but never even close to the Rothschild wealth.

JP Morgan was an investor and businessman who got into financial investment later on, never to the level of Rothschild

Oh and by the way JP Morgan helped stabalize the economy on more than one occasion during a crisis
That may be why his name is on banks while Rothschild is synonymous with greed and deceit

>No, he just had spies tell him when everything was going down.
Clearly not if they couldn't even tell him he was going to get beaten up because of his evil ways.
>the argument used by most conspiracy theorists is the Rothschild dynasty, no one agrues they controlled banking before then.

No, no it isn't. Anyone with more than half a brain knows MONEY LENDER goes hand in hand with kike.

>This is retarded, Jews are hated because they are ugly, you can't just learn not to be ugly

>Let me tell you why you hate me

This entire thread is why we hate you, I can't see you and I know you're a rat, a parasitic piece of shit.

>Yes, exactly, hating someone because they're ugly is fucked up.
Yeah, good thing that's not why

Get surgery, you kikes do all the time anyways
Anything to pretend youre white I guwss

You're literally trying to tell me why I hate you.
You're so delusional you try and tell me what I think because your mentally to fucked up to even admit JEWS are the problem?

Read this thread if you dare, the kike as literally done nothing but speak for other groups of people

Here is evidence Jews did 9/11.
Go ahead and debunk it.
Oh wait.
You can't.

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>meme flag
Sorry kike, you lost before you even started.

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>It fully debunked every Jewish conspiracy,


If you think you've "debunked" anything the only Jewish conspiracy that's been proven to be a myth is Jewish intelligence

Protip, to debunk something you actually have to you know, prove its a myth. Staying myths of your own isn't proof, you've done nothing but say "no, you"

We need to start calling Jews by Dindu you're worse than American blacks for avoiding any responsibility

What a gay ass thread, you rat fucking kike twat.

>Catholics
Want to Convert the Jews(force isn't out of the question)
>Muslims
Want to Kill them All