Germany couldn't win WW2 no matter what

Germany couldn't win WW2 no matter what.
Give me some ways they could've won and I will attempt to debunk them

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Ally with the Russians.

I don't see how that could've happened, Hitler literally wrote a book about conquering and colonizing the Western soviet Union.

And the non-aggression pact that both sides signed was very uneasy at times before operation Barbarossa, In fact the soviets and Germans even fought in combat against each other during the German invasion of Poland when the Germans crossed into the land promised to the Soviets

It only started to go bad when Hitler started micro managing so im gonna say they would of won if Hitler didn't do that and let more competent do their jobs

Funny how this bluepilled bullshit always gets passed, the military staff blamed hitler for their own failures. Hitler was a brilliant, it was his idea that led to the rapid advance into france.

They couldve won if they actually tried to kill the jews

>It only started to go bad when Hitler started micro managing so im gonna say they would of won if Hitler didn't do that and let more competent do their jobs

this is one of the largest misconceptions about the German military in WW2, during the War there were many times when Hitler didn't listen to the high command and ended up being right, and there were times when he listened to the high command when they were wrong. One of the biggest examples of this was operation Citadel, or the battle of Kursk, which Hitler was against. However, Hitler did do some atrocious micro-managing towards the end. However at that point Germany was doomed no matter what

This shit is so boring of course he couldnt have won ww2. OP what would hitler have needed to actually win? Its a way more fun question.

the Jews didn't sink the Bismark, Or Bomb Dresden, Surround the Sixth Army, Repel Operation Citadel, Or Storm Berlin.

Nuke modern day Zambia as a show of force to the Poles to surrender.

Have a competent navy.
Have competent allies
Have competent intelligence and counter-intelligence.
Don't bomb civvies in britain and instead destroy infrastructure.
Don't attack the SU first, let them be the aggressor and wear them down in a defensive war in Poland.
Just like in WW1 allow Russia to overextend and it will collapse on it's own.
Instead of a platform of german superiority, use opposition to jews, communism and capitalism to garner support outside germany.

The soviets wanted to create a sphere of influence, the Molotov Ribbentrop pact didn't mean jack shit it was just a way for both sides to buy time. The Soviets believed that they were going to be on the offensive so the Germans had to launch a preemptive strike. Otherwise they would have mobilized their forces and invaded.

Take the caucuses, forget about Stalingrad, don't declare war on America, get Japan to attack Russia instead of America.

I assume you're referring to the German Nuclear weapons program, The Germans basically gave up on it after barely starting it and just made the V1 and V2.

That's right, why dirty your hands, when you can just throw goyim into the meat grinder.

Out jew the jews

Only way Hitler could have won the war was to develop an atomic bomb before the Americans. Even then he would have had a hard time getting it to America before the Americans would have had one.

Germany
>competent Allies
>Competent intelligence

XAXAXAXAXAX

He fucked up with Stalingrad, all his fault.

The Germans tried to do that first, then when they realized they couldn't just blitzkrieg across Mountains they basically gave up and decided to try to take Stalingrad.

>don't declare war on america
>America stages (((Another Pearl Harbour))) and joins the war
Don't be a retard, that's not how war works. If a country wants to attack you, they will.

Japs had no desire to declare war on the Russia, they were already struggling in China. That would have been a tall order, even then, the Soviets could have made things really hard on Japan, Japan was not suited to fight long land supply lines. Siberia would have buttfucked them.

I assume you're referring to the German Nuclear weapons program, The Germans basically gave up on it after barely starting it and just made the V1 and V2.

Even if the Nazis tired they couldn't, it took the combined efforts of the Best physicists of the US, Britain, Canada, and Exiled scientists form the Axis to develop it.

Also the Germans thought nuclear science was Jewish science

But what if they used all their V2's to attack Serbia?

You are 100% correct, I'm just saying its the only way Hitler could have one was with a bomb, his forces were good in the short term, but in the long game, he was fucked, same as the Kaiser was in 1918.

What if they didn't allow the British retreat at Dunkirk?

the Fist successful Launch of a V2 was in 1942
Yugoslavia surrendered in 1941

So they wouldn't see it coming is what your telling me

Nothing. He would just look like an asshole and more forces would be mobilized against the "evil tyrant".

Ally with mighty Slovenians more.

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in 1942, if Speer had ordered to double the budget of the Reich Uranverein (Uranium Club) and pursue the development of the Atomic Bomb, which they knew was theoretically feasible and which they knew the Americans would develop, then the Reich would have achieved the A Bomb before USA. London, DC and Moscow would have been nuked in 1944, and the Reich would have conquered the world. we all would be speaking Geman right now, no Jews would exist anymore, and our Fuhrer would be Hitler's Great Grandson.

In the grand scheme of things how many Brits were evacuated from Dunkirk, like around 50,000? And I hardly call the actions of the Wehrmacht,"letting the British get away".

He was already "viewed" that way by propaganda. And what other forces would have joined that otherwise didn't?

at the time Germany had the most powerful army on earth. however, they became over extended, and didn't employ statecraft in an effectively way relying on pure military objectives.

seethe harder Nazi scum

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By 1943 the eastern front was already a lost cause. No amount of nukes would be able to salve the situation.

more colonial forces, more Indian's south africans etc. They kicked ass in Abyssinia against the Italians.

A time traveler with a ton of relevant documents about numbers, battles, mistakes in their technology, traitors, and targets, just about everything and proof that the time traveler is legit to give advice to the axis powers in the 1940's and give them perfect foresight.

not going to war in the first place and winning via diplomatic maneuvering to accomplish their goals instead of chimping out

also, how could the Nazis Nuke Moscow if the didn't have Ariel Superiority?

An alliance with the US

Not invading Russia.

Exactly. It ultimately doesn't matter whether he let them go or not.
There was no point in nuking moscow because all the industry was moved to the Urals.

Oh yeah they would have, nuke Moscow, start nuking factories beyond the Urals, they Soviets would have caved,

But it's a moot point, Germany didn't research the bomb beyond the theoretical. They spent too money on huge tanks with shitty transmissions, jet engines that turbines that melted after 3 flights, etc.

Yeah,Yeah, FDR would TOTALLY ally with Hitler

What if everything that happened up until 1939 happened, but poland wasn't attacked until 1945, giving Germany 6 extra years to build up.

Well said

Everything continues as the same but the US I never declared on by Japan and Germany and the UK surrenders
If the Soviets are invaded in 1940 they would have literally no way to counter the invasion besides the very few t-34 tanks

German Tank Development in a nutshell
>create shitty tank destroyer out of parts made for a failed Tiger prototype,
>The Petro-Electric Engine is to shit so it fucking catches on fire from going up a small hill
>loses half of the in Operation Citadel
>decides to add more armor and a heavier gun and sends them to the hills of Northern Italy

Fuck off Commie shit

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